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Gunna1
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13 Apr 2012 8:44am
Watching the news lately it seems a lot of the violent crimes we are seeing - home invasion, drive by shooting etc are against ethnic minorities, Lebanese, Asian, Middle Eastern. Are these crimes being perpetrated by their own people? From what I have seen, this appears to be the case when the offenders are caught.
doggie
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WA
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13 Apr 2012 9:09am
Add drugs (ice) and thats what you get
RPM
RPM
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RPM RPM
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13 Apr 2012 9:30am
And this is suprising??

When you have people such as Sudanese/Africans who are used to the law of the gun and who also are brought up by forcibly taking what they need to survive how would you intergrate them into a western society? Keeping in mind they are unemployed, have no money, easy access to drugs, cant work due to visa requirements, get bored and have the 'take what I want' mentality...

They bring their ways here and then crime blows out and we as Aussie's accept this and keep welcoming them with open arms. Eventually it's going to catch up with us and the problems encountered in SW Sydney will be in every major city in Australia.. They multiply like rabbits and then the cycle begins breeding more generations of criminals.

Interesting read below...

www.adelaidenow.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
62mac
62mac
WA
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13 Apr 2012 9:38am
It seems every night there's a shooting in western Sydney,two people shot dead two nights running in Brisbane this week.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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13 Apr 2012 2:37pm


I couldn't get past the girl.

doggie
doggie
WA
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13 Apr 2012 1:10pm
evlPanda said...



I couldn't get past the girl.




There ya go Panda -

From Melbourne yesterday: "Two policemen were pelted with bottles when they went to break up the latest brawl at Braybrook ... Police were investigating whether the incident was related to a brawl the night before at a 'kickback party' for the Miss South Sudan Australia beauty pageant."

Darwin last weekend: "Two teenage boys were wounded with a machete while a third was beaten unconscious ... The attackers were described as being of African appearance."

Toongabbie, April 18: "An elderly motorist escaped unharmed after his moving vehicle was pelted with rocks ... The driver reported seeing three males aged 13 to 14 of African appearance."

Adelaide, April 15: "A Marden woman has been indecently assaulted ... Police described the suspect as of African appearance."

Adelaide, April 15: "Detectives ... are investigating a sexual assault that is alleged to have occurred in a toilet of a city nightclub ... by a male ... of African appearance."

Shepparton, April 15: "Three armed men terrorised two staff members in a brazen attack at a fast food restaurant ... Police are looking for three men ... of African appearance."

Melbourne, April 13: "A man was stabbed in the head during an altercation with two other men ... believed to be of African appearance ... "

Dandenong, April 11: "Two men ... were approached by four males, one of whom struck the 25-year-old man across the head with a baseball bat ... The man armed with the baseball bat is of African appearance ... "

Melbourne, April 10: "Police said a group of 15 men ... was walking home from a party ... (A) second group ... set upon the party-goers leaving two men with serious stab wounds ... The aggressors were of African appearance."

Melbourne, April 6: "A 24-year-old man was ... stabbed in the shoulder with a knife ... His attacker is ... of African appearance."

Canberra, April 2: "A 19-year-old man (was) stabbed in the abdomen ... The offender (took) the victim's mobile phone. The offender is described as being African in appearance."

K Dog
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13 Apr 2012 3:45pm
evlPanda said...



I couldn't get past the girl.




Once you have had black, you never go back
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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13 Apr 2012 2:18pm
I have an interesting transcript of a speech given by a retired cop in NSW many years ago, talking about the problems with middle eastern crime, resulting in no-go areas for whities and cops. Basically talks about how the police can't solve it due to political correctness and warning against some of the ideologies that has caused this mess.

It is all true, by one who has been there and done that. He also later warned that Cronulla was going to turn to crap as whities were getting sick of ethnic crime gangs and a few years later he was proven correct.

I won't post it here as it is long, and also regardless of how true it is if I post it I will be a right wing nationalist redneck again apparently.
For anyone who is interested though,
www.australian-news.com.au/
oz surf
oz surf
WA
407 posts
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13 Apr 2012 4:03pm
Mark _australia said...

I have an interesting transcript of a speech given by a retired cop in NSW many years ago, talking about the problems with middle eastern crime, resulting in no-go areas for whities and cops. Basically talks about how the police can't solve it due to political correctness and warning against some of the ideologies that has caused this mess.

It is all true, by one who has been there and done that. He also later warned that Cronulla was going to turn to crap as whities were getting sick of ethnic crime gangs and a few years later he was proven correct.

I won't post it here as it is long, and also regardless of how true it is if I post it I will be a right wing nationalist redneck again apparently.
For anyone who is interested though,
www.australian-news.com.au/


That was an interesting article Mark,although very sad reading indeed.
Why the hell has multiculturism been forced upon us?
What i don't understand is why politicians think it is a good thing.
Can't we learn from the mistakes Europe has made of such policies.
This makes me so angry
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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13 Apr 2012 4:34pm
oz surf said...

Mark _australia said...

I have an interesting transcript of a speech given by a retired cop in NSW many years ago, talking about the problems with middle eastern crime, resulting in no-go areas for whities and cops. Basically talks about how the police can't solve it due to political correctness and warning against some of the ideologies that has caused this mess.

It is all true, by one who has been there and done that. He also later warned that Cronulla was going to turn to crap as whities were getting sick of ethnic crime gangs and a few years later he was proven correct.

I won't post it here as it is long, and also regardless of how true it is if I post it I will be a right wing nationalist redneck again apparently.
For anyone who is interested though,
www.australian-news.com.au/


That was an interesting article Mark,although very sad reading indeed.
Why the hell has multiculturism been forced upon us?
What i don't understand is why politicians think it is a good thing.
Can't we learn from the mistakes Europe has made of such policies.
This makes me so angry



Its because we SHOULD be all shiny happy people when we are not that at all...
oz surf
oz surf
WA
407 posts
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13 Apr 2012 4:53pm
We in WA are lucky that we have not witnessed what has happened in Sydney,but for how long?.
I don't condone violence but can relate to how the situation in Cronulla escalated and maybe having people like the Bra Boys around can keep ethnic gangs in their place, especially when the police are not doing their job because of pollitical correctness.
Mobydisc
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13 Apr 2012 6:58pm
Good read Mark but incredibly depressing. I'm not sure how the police of NSW are currently dealing with the issue. They try to talk to people who have been shot and all the people say is they were out for a walk at night.

About the only time I go to the south side of Sydney is to go windsurfing and almost every time I see some really dodgy things, like young blokes of 'mediterranean appearance' driving really expensive cars, ie Italian sports cars and groups of them hanging around at the beach. They sometimes seem to be up to something that doesn't seem exactly right.

Of course its not racist to attack a white person because they are white. A good example of this was the recent mass killings in France. Before the identity of the killer was known, journalists speculated the killer was a racist white supremacist. When it turned out the killer was a Muslim with a North African background those same journalist lamented how Muslims in France are excluded by a racist French society that hates Muslims.

Whitey is always to blame.
RPM
RPM
WA
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13 Apr 2012 5:16pm
The bra boys are just scallywag aussie nationalists who are proud of their area and will act to preserve it.. I really don't blame them to be quite honest..


As for Perth not having issues.. Are you fkn high Oz Surf???

Mirrabooka, Balga, Balcatta, Balajura ect ect... And numerous others all over Perth..
Somali 'african kings' gang members are on the rise in Perth and I'm sure over the next few years were gonna see an explosion crime. These idiots can change your life in the blink of an eye by stabbing you or beating you to unconciousness... And for what.. A fkn iphone or 20 bucks in your wallet.. The govt needs to deport any of the people who commit crimes whilst on asylum or bridging visas. Go have a wander around Mirrabooka Square shopping centre.. You will wake up quick smart to where we are heading.

Have a look at Wembley and how it has evolved over the last 3 years then you will see it's becoming more Pakastani,Sri Lankan and Indian on Herdsman Parade than actually in any of those countries. That's because the government has identified that area for rehousing asylum seekers in cheap accomodation. It is a disgrace how PC we are becoming..

Am I racist.. I'm not sure but I am a realist who tells it like it is..
oz surf
oz surf
WA
407 posts
WA, 407 posts
13 Apr 2012 5:33pm
RPM said...

The bra boys are just scallywag aussie nationalists who are proud of their area and will act to preserve it.. I really don't blame them to be quite honest..


As for Perth not having issues.. Are you fkn high Oz Surf???

Mirrabooka, Balga, Balcatta, Balajura ect ect... And numerous others all over Perth..
Somali 'african kings' gang members are on the rise in Perth and I'm sure over the next few years were gonna see an explosion crime. These idiots can change your life in the blink of an eye by stabbing you or beating you to unconciousness... And for what.. A fkn iphone or 20 bucks in your wallet.. The govt needs to deport any of the people who commit crimes whilst on asylum or bridging visas. Go have a wander around Mirrabooka Square shopping centre.. You will wake up quick smart to where we are heading.

Have a look at Wembley and how it has evolved over the last 3 years then you will see it's becoming more Pakastani,Sri Lankan and Indian on Herdsman Parade than actually in any of those countries. That's because the government has identified that area for rehousing asylum seekers in cheap accomodation. It is a disgrace how PC we are becoming..

Am I racist.. I'm not sure but I am a realist who tells it like it is..


You're right RPM. I dont really see much of it because i only tend to hang around our beaches. Thank Fxxk they dont like surfing.
jusavina
jusavina
QLD
1504 posts
QLD, 1504 posts
13 Apr 2012 8:05pm
I'm sure you guys don't buy the point 7 brand and their black sails
They are criminals!
jn1
jn1
SA
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13 Apr 2012 8:32pm
I live and work in the Elizabeth SA for the past nine years. It's very white and generally people are not very friendly (although Elizabeth drivers are pretty considerate). I first noticed Sudanese in this area about five years ago. There are a lot here now and you know what ?, they are just getting on with it !. The Sudanese are polite. The local bogans don't give them a hard time. I see Sudanese kids playing with the local kids and frequently see the two groups walking to school together. I've never seen a bad incident. They are establishing and prospering. Everybody is getting on and I say good on them. Sorry if everybody else is having bad experiences.
tmurray
tmurray
WA
485 posts
WA, 485 posts
13 Apr 2012 7:13pm
RPM said...
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Have a look at Wembley and how it has evolved over the last 3 years then you will see it's becoming more Pakastani,Sri Lankan and Indian on Herdsman Parade than actually in any of those countries. That's because the government has identified that area for rehousing asylum seekers in cheap accomodation. It is a disgrace how PC we are becoming..




Yup, I live in Wembley and there are loads of Indians etc around Herdsman parade. But you know what - I'm not aware of any trouble at all - those apartment blocks are clean and tidy, the big groups in the park are family groups and all seem to get along really well, there's no graffiti in the area, they respond courteously when greeted - all in all a really good little neighbourhood.

You're jumping to massive and very unfair conclusions.

Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
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13 Apr 2012 7:27pm
tmurray said...

RPM said...
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Have a look at Wembley and how it has evolved over the last 3 years then you will see it's becoming more Pakastani,Sri Lankan and Indian on Herdsman Parade than actually in any of those countries. That's because the government has identified that area for rehousing asylum seekers in cheap accomodation. It is a disgrace how PC we are becoming..




Yup, I live in Wembley and there are loads of Indians etc around Herdsman parade. But you know what - I'm not aware of any trouble at all - those apartment blocks are clean and tidy, the big groups in the park are family groups and all seem to get along really well, there's no graffiti in the area, they respond courteously when greeted - all in all a really good little neighbourhood.

You're jumping to massive and very unfair conclusions.




Same experience for me just up the road in Glendalough. Loads of Indians and Africans but the only people I've had any trouble with are the stupid bogans over the back fence pumping their bass, getting pissed and yelling obscenities

jusavina
jusavina
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13 Apr 2012 10:55pm




Loads of Indians and Africans but the only people I've had any trouble with are the stupid bogans over the back fence pumping their bass, getting pissed and yelling obscenities





So true!

evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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13 Apr 2012 11:11pm
Squid Lips said...
Same experience for me just up the road in Glendalough. Loads of Indians and Africans but the only people I've had any trouble with are the stupid bogans over the back fence pumping their bass, getting pissed and yelling obscenities


The only, er very mild, trouble I've had this week was a bunch of girls leaning out of a taxi, giving me and my wife the finger, and yelling "FUUUUCCKK YOOOOOUUUZ!!!". Aussie girls of course.
This multiculturalism thing isn't working.
echunda
echunda
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765 posts
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14 Apr 2012 12:06am
I grew up on one of the roughest area's of Dandenong Vic,

Bogans? Yep.

Druggies? Oh yeah...

Immigrants? Whole town migrated from another country!

Abbo's? .. Yep, 2 houses in our court.

In our court we had almost every migrating country of the time represented. Even though there were some very dodgy things that went down, it was generally a brilliant place to live.. Even if it was just for the food!

There are bad apples in every crop. But the majority have come to Australia to make a new life for themselves and their families. It can be difficult for the new arrivals to incorporate into Australian lifestyle. Yes, these people are different but they are here for the same reason we are.

However even with this perspective I have had one or two run ins with people who must have lived through some horrendus events to disregard human life to such an extent as to threaten to kill for a nokia phone or $20.

Even though I no longer live in Dandenong one of my most favourite resteraunts is in Dandedong. It's Afgan and it's an amazing meal. The people are brilliant and love it when I pull up out the front on the fireblade (sportsbike).

So, for those of you who've skipped through my ramblings, here's a quick summary.

Some kiters are wankers and need a

But most are good and deserve a when they do some arial move that windsurfers go at.

Same goes with people coming to this country
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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13 Apr 2012 10:07pm
The only trouble i have had is my mates texting me, making allegations that that i am not hetrosexual.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
13 Apr 2012 10:10pm
echunda said...

I grew up on one of the roughest area's of Dandenong Vic,

Bogans? Yep.

Druggies? Oh yeah...

Immigrants? Whole town migrated from another country!

Abbo's? .. Yep, 2 houses in our court.

In our court we had almost every migrating country of the time represented.

There are bad apples in every crop. But the majority have come to Australia to make a new life for themselves and their families. It can be difficult for the new county people to incorporate into Australian lifestyle. Yes, these people are different but at they are here for the same reason we are.

However even with this perspective I have had one or two run ins with people who must have lived through some horrendus events to disregard human life to such an extent as to threaten to kill for a nokia phone or $20.

Even though I no longer live in Dandenong one of my most favourite resteraunts is in Dandedong. It's Afgan and it's an amazing meal. The people are brilliant and love it when I pull up out the front on the fireblade (sportsbike).

So, for those of you who've skipped through my ramblings, here's a quick summary.

Some kiters are wankers and need a

But most are good and deserve a when they do some arial move that windsurfers go at.

Same goes with people coming to this country



I lived in South London for a few years. In an around sulubrious Peckham.
I was the only white in the block.
Was fine really. Once you got to know everyone and everyone got to know you.

I dont believe you can take a race of people and say they are this or that or you're more at threat from this one or that one.

People are people at the end of the day we're all just trying our best.

poor relative
poor relative
WA
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13 Apr 2012 10:15pm
RPM said...

Am I racist.. I'm not sure but I am a realist who tells it like it is..


Yes you are a racist.



GreenPat
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14 Apr 2012 12:25am
I think the underlying problem here is clear. People.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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13 Apr 2012 10:44pm
Greenpat / P.R:
Let's say bikie gangs are a problem in any given capital city. They are all white members, and as we know about 80% of the population is caucasian.
So out of the 80% of the population who is caucasian, in Sydney we have about 500 people who are active members of a defined organised crime gang (bikies)

Then we have certain persons of middle eastern decent who are only about 1-2% of the population of the city. They also have 500 people who are active members of an organised crime gang.
That means per capita, more of that race are undertaking serious unlawful activities.

Would it be racist to state that? Is it racist if it is true?

Those numbers are just rough guesstimates.... but:
Sometimes we need to put aside political correctness and ascertain if one group is more criminally active, and if so state that as fact and target the problems.... not shy away from reality in case we are labelled as racist.

In American movies it is always 'the mob' - Italian mafia gangs - and that is OK cos they are european. But we are not to talk about Lebanese gangs or African gangs because they are refugees, recent arrivals etc so we have to ignore things, lest we be labelled racist?

cisco
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14 Apr 2012 9:38am
evlPanda said...
This multiculturalism thing isn't working.


Ain't that the truth!!

Mobydisc
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NSW
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14 Apr 2012 9:52am
Anyway this should be about crime, not race, culture or religion. If someone hurts someone else then the law should step in to punish the perpertrator and bring restitution to the victim. It shouldn't matter what colour or background either party is.

jusavina
jusavina
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14 Apr 2012 10:51am
Mobydisc said...

Anyway this should be about crime, not race, culture or religion. If someone hurts someone else then the law should step in to punish the perpertrator and bring restitution to the victim. It shouldn't matter what colour or background either party is.




I fully agree but reading the previous posts, I think you're dreamin'...
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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14 Apr 2012 10:38am
jusavina said...

Mobydisc said...

Anyway this should be about crime, not race, culture or religion. If someone hurts someone else then the law should step in to punish the perpertrator and bring restitution to the victim. It shouldn't matter what colour or background either party is.




I fully agree but reading the previous posts, I think you're dreamin'...


Agreed - reverse dicrimination whereby society is afraid to target ethnic offenders for fear of being labelled racist is a really sad situation. (That was what you meant right?)
log man
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14 Apr 2012 12:46pm
cisco said...

evlPanda said...
This multiculturalism thing isn't working.


Ain't that the truth!!




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