By 2030 it is estimated half the population of the UK will be obese.


The number of oversized mortuary fridge spaces being installed in London's hospitals to accommodate obese bodies has risen by nearly a third. Since 2013, the figure has jumped from 126 to 165. Of the 23 hospital trusts asked, 22 responded to the BBC's Freedom of Information request. Public Health England estimates that treating obesity in the capital costs the NHS up to ?1.1bn a year. NHS London said measures like sugar taxes were needed to handle the crisis.

Retired carpenter Stephen Brooks has obesity and said he feared ending up in an oversized fridge like his mother and cousin. The 71-year-old said he often eats to compensate for loneliness and felt it could take a year for him to get down to a normal weight, even with help. "It's partially because I live alone. There are some days where I speak to no-one. "A cousin of mine was 44st (279kg). When he died, they had to take out the window frame, and there was a crane. "My aunt had to buy a special coffin from the United States. And when it was being lowered, at his funeral it collapsed."

St George's Trust in Wandsworth added the most extra-large spaces, increasing the number from five to 15. King's College Hospital Trust refused to comment on whether the additional nine spaces it had installed in its mortuary were added to prevent cases of overweight bodies getting stuck. In 2014, the body of a patient got stuck in one of its freezers. Barts Health Trust, which has added three new spaces, said bodies were getting bigger and more large fridges were set to be installed.

Funeral director Ashley McDonald recently had to install an extra-wide fridge to make sure his firm could keep up with a heavier population. "We've bought fridges with a larger than standard door to help us to be sustainable for the future as people are getting larger." He said the unit cost ?3,500. Paul Evans, vice chairman of the British Obesity Society, said: "We are already the fat man of Europe. As a nation we are spending ?6bn a year on obesity, and one in 11 deaths are linked to the disease." He said the government needed to do more to persuade people to make healthier choices.

NHS London said: "Being overweight or obese is associated with greater risks of a number of serious illnesses. Wherever possible, prevention is preferable to cure. "Our own sugar restrictions, the new sugar tax and the NHS Type 2 diabetes prevention programme are all part of what needs to be a concerted effort to address obesity."
Mongolmike likes this.

PM33 posting in the general section, can see we need the HEAVY DEATHER forum back.

Send them to the soap factory and get monies back by the pound.

Pretty inevitable when you look at the way food??? is advertised and pushed and on the flip side you can't call someone out for having an issue with the knife and fork, like smoking it is probably something we could do something about if there wasn't so much money and lobbying involved.

It's pretty weird to say no laughing matter the flip side to this is starvation 30 odd years ago at school we had the 40hr famine still poor buggers starving in the world and now we have these issues and Mongolmike likes it.

People can't resist food ads??
Take responsibility. Marsbars..YOU own the problem.

Bought the Kindle version of Jason Fung's "The Complete Guide To Fasting" yesterday.

In in the first couple of chapters he discusses how attitudes toward food have changed so radically in
the last 40 odd years. Fasting has been recognized as a valid method of maintaining good health for centuries but today it is viewed as quack science. Missing meals attracts a shock horror reaction whereas the truth is that the human body, and many mammals, have evolved to cope with a feast/famine scenario which has largely disappeared and been replaced by a feast only scenario.Which accounts for obesity.

According to Fung the record fast is around 380 days without adverse effect. He is a kidneyologist specializing in diabetes. What I have read so far is very interesting.

380 days.......now that's even hard for me to consider with an open mind.

I try to limit my choc intake to one per day. Choc fruit and nut from the Spudshed limited to 60-70g per day.I do need to show more mental strength.

I am really in to adding two stalks of coriander to my home made soup. Just don't cook it for more than a minute or two as it loses its pop.


www.sott.net/article/389571-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Let-Food-Be-Thy-Medicine-The-Magic-Pill-Documentary-Review

sorry OP but if you are talking about things that aren't a laughing matter then i direct your attention to this. This is simply an outrage

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japie said..
According to Fung the record fast is around 380 days without adverse effect. He is a kidneyologist specializing in diabetes. What I have read so far is very interesting.

Weeding out the smart people from his fan base.

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dusta said..

Told u before -
Ford girl is better

Sounds more like they are doing well in the UK , the actual size of the population and its' growth rate warrants putting in more spaces after time anyhow, so if that's all that is they may actually be doing quite well.

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Mark _australia said..

dusta said..

Told u before -
Ford girl is better

Toyota chica not too bad also

All the fatties are trying to change the subject.
There's more obesity in Australia than UK and Australian men are the most obese Australians.
I'm not. I'm one of the black ones. It must be you.

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japie said..
Bought the Kindle version of Jason Fung's "The Complete Guide To Fasting" yesterday.

In in the first couple of chapters he discusses how attitudes toward food have changed so radically in
the last 40 odd years. Fasting has been recognized as a valid method of maintaining good health for centuries but today it is viewed as quack science. Missing meals attracts a shock horror reaction whereas the truth is that the human body, and many mammals, have evolved to cope with a feast/famine scenario which has largely disappeared and been replaced by a feast only scenario.Which accounts for obesity.

According to Fung the record fast is around 380 days without adverse effect. He is a kidneyologist specializing in diabetes. What I have read so far is very interesting.

Fasting is a very difficult way of life for most people and for the vast majority is nigh on impossible to stick to .Tried it but I just did not have the will power. Good for you but very hard to do.
A much easier way is a whole food diet with as little processed food as possible . Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables with greens such as broccoli kale and spinach. Beans lentils and nuts are a much healthier alternative to your traditional steak egg and chips. It's just plain common sense.
Obesity and cardiac disease were unheard of in Africa before they adopted the western diet and the same thing has happened in Asia as they have moved away from traditional diets.
I very rarely eat out because everything is fast food with lots of fat and sugar and it's very hard to find a healthy takeaway . It's all about taste and very little to do with nutrition.
Look after yourself because if you don't take the time to eat right , eventually you will run out of time.

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rockmagnet said..

japie said..
Bought the Kindle version of Jason Fung's "The Complete Guide To Fasting" yesterday.

In in the first couple of chapters he discusses how attitudes toward food have changed so radically in
the last 40 odd years. Fasting has been recognized as a valid method of maintaining good health for centuries but today it is viewed as quack science. Missing meals attracts a shock horror reaction whereas the truth is that the human body, and many mammals, have evolved to cope with a feast/famine scenario which has largely disappeared and been replaced by a feast only scenario.Which accounts for obesity.

According to Fung the record fast is around 380 days without adverse effect. He is a kidneyologist specializing in diabetes. What I have read so far is very interesting.

Fasting is a very difficult way of life for most people and for the vast majority is nigh on impossible to stick to .Good for you but very hard to do.
A much easier way is a whole food diet with as little processed food as possible . Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables with greens such as broccoli kale and spinach. Beans lentils and nuts are a much healthier alternative to your traditional steak egg and chips. It's just plain common sense.
Obesity and cardiac disease were unheard of in Africa before they adopted the western diet and the same thing has happened in Asia as they have moved away from traditional diets.
I very rarely eat out because everything is fast food with lots of fat and sugar and it's very hard to find a healthy takeaway . It's all about taste and very little to do with nutrition.
Look after yourself because if you don't take the time to eat right , eventually you will run out of time.

I recal your post with regard to your heart problem and changing your diet.

I also experienced illness which acted as a goad to changing my lifestyle and have been vegetarian since 2012, vegan since last year.

The fasting thing is fascinating for me. I have never been shy of experimenting with diet. Did a course with a bloke last year who was right into and he had me convinced so I started reading a bit just to figure out techniques and pitfalls.

Once you get over the hunger it becomes quite easy. I've found that my stamina and alertness increase noticeably.

Has the added benefit of saving a considerable amount of money.

I weigh the same as I did at 23 in 1976 so weight is not the reason for doing it.

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japie said..

rockmagnet said..

japie said..
Bought the Kindle version of Jason Fung's "The Complete Guide To Fasting" yesterday.

In in the first couple of chapters he discusses how attitudes toward food have changed so radically in
the last 40 odd years. Fasting has been recognized as a valid method of maintaining good health for centuries but today it is viewed as quack science. Missing meals attracts a shock horror reaction whereas the truth is that the human body, and many mammals, have evolved to cope with a feast/famine scenario which has largely disappeared and been replaced by a feast only scenario.Which accounts for obesity.

According to Fung the record fast is around 380 days without adverse effect. He is a kidneyologist specializing in diabetes. What I have read so far is very interesting.

Fasting is a very difficult way of life for most people and for the vast majority is nigh on impossible to stick to .Good for you but very hard to do.
A much easier way is a whole food diet with as little processed food as possible . Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables with greens such as broccoli kale and spinach. Beans lentils and nuts are a much healthier alternative to your traditional steak egg and chips. It's just plain common sense.
Obesity and cardiac disease were unheard of in Africa before they adopted the western diet and the same thing has happened in Asia as they have moved away from traditional diets.
I very rarely eat out because everything is fast food with lots of fat and sugar and it's very hard to find a healthy takeaway . It's all about taste and very little to do with nutrition.
Look after yourself because if you don't take the time to eat right , eventually you will run out of time.

I recal your post with regard to your heart problem and changing your diet.

I also experienced illness which acted as a goad to changing my lifestyle and have been vegetarian since 2012, vegan since last year.

The fasting thing is fascinating for me. I have never been shy of experimenting with diet. Did a course with a bloke last year who was right into and he had me convinced so I started reading a bit just to figure out techniques and pitfalls.

Once you get over the hunger it becomes quite easy. I've found that my stamina and alertness increase noticeably.

Has the added benefit of saving a considerable amount of money.

I weigh the same as I did at 23 in 1976 so weight is not the reason for doing it.

Yeah I really need to really need to drop 10kg so I have been trying to cut down on frequency and volume of food. Bread is my big weakness and I lose weight when I cut out the bread.
It's known fact that high carbs make you hungry after a short period of time so it makes sense to cut back. As you say the benefit is more energy and alertness .
Recently bought a new Sic 12'6 bullet stand up and don't want to get sick as my other half will give me hell for spending all that money and not using it . = motivation.

Croissants are my downfall. Any pastry actually!

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I've found that my stamina and alertness increase noticeably.

Stamina sure,alertness.......

When you finally get 'it' I'll accept its improved

Once a week,each Friday actually,I have a very light day of just water and pieces of fruit.

It helps no end to stop the pot belly. I woke up today two full kilos lighter than yesterday.

I take it that little cryptic snipe was referring to FE.

At risk of repetition. My understanding of the planet is based on my observation. Yours is based on YouTube productions and one incident which appeared on television, the medium you shun.

The laws of nature versus blind devotion.

So far Australia takes 3rd place after:
1. US
2. Kiwi
at this obesity challenge and ranking.
why do we worry about UK? There are on the good path to slim down while Brexit bite and food shortages become apparent.

what surprised me the most is fat shaik country But the solution seems easy and obvious.If only Kiwis could import 4 mln Chinese, they could restore obesity rates well below current levels.

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...Once a week, each Friday actually, I have a very light day of just water and pieces of fruit..

I'd always imagined you as more than just a once a week fruit person PM33. More like :

Mondays - bananas
Tuesday - fruit cake
Wednesday - fruit loop
Thursday - break from fruit and just plain nuts
Friday - a very light day of just fluorinated water and pieces of GM fruit
.....

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Carantoc said..

petermac33 said..
...Once a week, each Friday actually, I have a very light day of just water and pieces of fruit..

I'd always imagined you as more than just a once a week fruit person PM33. More like :

Mondays - bananas
Tuesday - fruit cake
Wednesday - fruit loop
Thursday - break from fruit and just plain nuts
Friday - a very light day of just fluorinated water and pieces of GM fruit
.....

Is it ok if I quote this here because there is no room left to green thumb Carantoc's post?

Btw, this is one of Petermac's more sensible threads and on a growing problem...

And the snipe at Japie is just wrong...

I was not having a snipe at japie,just encouraging him to be a bit a more open minded. If he wants to believe the oceans can velcro themselves to the underside of a spinning ball.....fine by me

The problem of obesity is not a problem for the PTB.

Obesity / depopulation is by design,but that is too hard for most to grasp,especially on general discussion.

Open minded is one thing. Entirely vacuous is another!

Pete,mate, I am more than happy for you to make a complete clot of yourself as frequently as you wish. By the same token I'm a charitable chap and find it difficult to walk by someone wallowing around in a sea of stupidity.
Making a statement about water velcroing itself to the underside of a ball is a classic example of your ability to ignore one of the most obvious of all of the laws of nature.

I've a friend who base jumps for a hobby but I've no inclination to follow suit because the lessons of gravity were imbued in my existence on this planet long before I could remember.

"They found that infants already have an intuitive understanding of certain physical laws by 2 months of age, when they start to track moving objects with both eyes consistently and can be tested with eye-tracking technology. For instance, at this age they understand that unsupported objects will fall (gravity) and hidden objects don't cease to exist. "

There are some very basic experiments you can perform to demonstrate the laws of gravity but I'm not holding my breath in expectation of your researching it.

After all it's obviously beyond your grasp to mosey on down to the beach to make any of the many optical observations that the well meaning folk on here have brought to your attention.

There is not such thing like over weight.You just happen to live on wrong planet.Move to Mars and weight 1/3 rd
to
Moon to loose five/six of your weight
or
Space Station to stay weightless entirely.


But what is most fascinating - the fact there are start growing lettuce and strawberries on the Space Station- so diet becomes more refined now.
It helps to loose even more weight ( at least till Space Chicken arrive to Space Station and KFC opens stores there)

Grown in space food looks appetizing


but not always

Now imagine that in the nearest future here on Earth instead of a tasty beef burger, you come for fast food outlet and suck some algae straight from the plastic tube.
Algomat will feed all future generations.You may have one even in every home, that site beside washing machine and fridge - to produce fresh and healthy algae for the whole family.No needs for supermarket shopping or pizza delivery.

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NotWal said..
All the fatties are trying to change the subject.
There's more obesity in Australia than UK and Australian men are the most obese Australians.
I'm not. I'm one of the black ones. It must be you.

Interesting how the more socialist countries appear to be the healthiest while the most capitalist tend to be the least healthy.

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I was not having a snipe at japie,just encouraging him to be a bit a more open minded. If he wants to believe the oceans can velcro themselves to the underside of a spinning ball.....fine by me

The problem of obesity is not a problem for the PTB.

Obesity / depopulation is by design,but that is too hard for most to grasp,especially on general discussion.

Oh, but people can become spherical?

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Statistics... I see this and think
"3 out of 10 Aussie men only have a 50/50 choice of shaggable women" For only the price of beer, you could help this minority achieve better life outcomes. Please... sponsor a skinny guy

The lower classes used to struggle to buy shoes and put food on the table a generation ago, yet now they seem to sit in front of giant big screen TV's and are massively overweight.

If someone enjoys eating but will live 10 or 20 years less, who's to say they haven't had a better life than someone who lives longer eating lettuce leaves?

That would be fine if they accepted the consequences of their decisions. I think a lot of people believe they have a right to expensive health care no matter how much of the problem is their own fault.
My old man had a saying about digging your own grave with your knife and fork.