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The Walking Dead.. why is it so frustrating!

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FormulaNova
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22 Apr 2014 8:15pm
I have been watching The Walking Dead after buying the seasons on Google Play.

It is so frustrating! For those that watch it, do you find it as frustrating!

The world has gone crazy, and there are zombies everywhere, so why do these people act like they are on a summer holiday and camp out! It's like the same virus that caused the zombies has caused general stupidity.

Here is what I have learned from The Walking Dead, take note in case there is a zombie apocalypse!

What I learned from the walking dead.

When you are surrounded by a world full of dangerous zombies that can kill you with a bite, what do you do? Protect yourself? No, you sit around in deck chairs talking about your feelings.

You are in a prison with walls and cell blocks. Do you kill all the zombies and reinforce the walls? No, you sit around and talk about your feelings.

Your compound is attracting more and more zombies, what do you do? Do you kill them methodically to remove the threat? No, you let them build up in such numbers where they push down the fences at which time you panic.(While talking about your feelings)

When you go outside into the world full of zombies, do you arm yourselves? Do you carry knives and guns with you at all times? No, you put the guns in the boot, and don't worry about knives unless you happen to have one handy.

When going on a mission to get supplies, do you take a well armed group and approach it methodically? No, you take 2 people, with minimal weapons, and spread out.

You are involved in a gun fight and there are shots all around you, as well as hundreds of deadly zombies. Your son has just shot two zombies that are about to get you. There are many more around. What do you do? Run away with your son? No, you hug him, and talk about your feelings.

You are in a prison with sick people, conveniently with hundreds of lockable cells. When the people die they turn into zombies and are a threat. What do you do? Lock them in their cells until they are better or die? No, you let them roam around the cell block and kill the others until you realise what has happened.

You have just been attacked by a rival group and survived, but their leader is still at large? What do you do? reinforce your compound and put sentries out? No, you dig holes in the garden and wait for the bad guy to show up and shoot you. (While talking about your feelings).

"where's Karl?", "Karl", "Karl, where's Karl!".


At least I am not the only one who finds this series interesting, but also frustrating!

www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/x-most-frustrating-things-about-the-walking-dead


Mobydisc
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22 Apr 2014 10:21pm
I gave up on it after watching a few episodes and it turned into a soap opera with zombies as the backdrop.
theDoctor
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22 Apr 2014 10:22pm


because its crap

days of out lives with zombies

everyone who paid to watch this should be given their money back

banshee is crap too

but atleast there's lots of boobs
Rupert
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22 Apr 2014 10:54pm
I learnt that in the case of Zombie Apocalypse a Samurai Sword would be my weapon of choice NOT a single shot CROSSBOW or a Semi Automatic Handgun or any other weapon that needs to be reloaded periodically. Usually when confronted by Zombie hordes.

The girl with the Samurai Sword kicks butt.
FormulaNova
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22 Apr 2014 9:17pm
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Mobydisc said..

I gave up on it after watching a few episodes and it turned into a soap opera with zombies as the backdrop.



Yeah, I agree. Its sad when something could be more interesting, but becomes a soap opera. Unfortunately I got sucked into it, even though I had to fast forward a lot of the first season to bypass the 'days of our lives' dialogue. If it was on TV and it had ads as well, I wouldn't have watched it.

I just know that there must be some other group out there that's kicking arse and killing all the zombies while all these idiots are talking about their feelings.

I hate to ask this question, but do women prefer this sort of story and all the stupid conversations? I would hope that a male writer would just have scene after logical scene of building compounds and doing things with minimal conversations.

I am on the tail end of season 4, and I think in some ways its better, but in some way they are s t r e t c h i n g it out.
FormulaNova
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22 Apr 2014 9:19pm
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Rupert said..

I learnt that in the case of Zombie Apocalypse a Samurai Sword would be my weapon of choice NOT a single shot CROSSBOW or a Semi Automatic Handgun or any other weapon that needs to be reloaded periodically. Usually when confronted by Zombie hordes.

The girl with the Samurai Sword kicks butt.



.. and she figured out how to walk amongst them by cutting their arms and jaws off... yet it doesn't occur to any of them to do the same... Ah well, its only a story, its not like there's idiots out there in the real world
remo81
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23 Apr 2014 12:34am
There is no better show than this one. IMO the hardest thing about being in a zombie apocalypse is going to be trying to not let everyone know how excited you are!!

The characters are obviously not preppers. You guys must be prepper as you all know so much about what you would all do.

Check the link to get started.

americanpreppersnetwork.com

FormulaNova
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23 Apr 2014 6:36am
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remo81 said..

There is no better show than this one. IMO the hardest thing about being in a zombie apocalypse is going to be trying to not let everyone know how excited you are!!

The characters are obviously not preppers. You guys must be prepper as you all know so much about what you would all do.

Check the link to get started.

americanpreppersnetwork.com




I think you could be a random normal person and survive better than this lot. Who needs to be a prepper, you just need to not be stupid.

Oh well, back to my bunker.... ;-)
kiteboy dave
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23 Apr 2014 8:52am
Typical walking dead season:

Ep 1 = heaps o zombies, action, woohoo this show's great!
Ep 2 = as above, but less, more talky still not bad, worth a watch
Ep 3-7 schmaltzy soap opera, religion (yuk), feely feely maybe 2 mins of zombie attack if lucky. Sometimes none. that's it never watching this cr@p again

Last 1-2 eps = action, suspense, awesome, what a great show, all is forgiven

The thing that really annoyed me was the first 3 or 4 eps where they're all trying desperately to explain to each other these dead people that were walking and attacking them and somehow weren't dead but they weren't allowed to say the word "zombie". Just because that would make it just another zombie show.
Cambodge
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23 Apr 2014 10:20am
I got up to Issue 100 of the comics (sorry, graphic novel ) before just giving up. The same story recycled round-and-round with a shuffling of the characters - kill some off, bring in some new faces, carry on as before et cetera et cetera.

Great idea that would be even better if it actually had an ending. The same curse as most American shows these days where seasons just keep rolling on until the writers completely run out of ideas. Lost was the worst for this IMO. The Brits do it right - short, sharp season with an ending from which there's no return. Over and done.
FlySurfer
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23 Apr 2014 10:37am
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kiteboy dave said..

Typical walking dead season:

Ep 1 = heaps o zombies, action, woohoo this show's great!
Ep 2 = as above, but less, more talky still not bad, worth a watch
Ep 3-7 schmaltzy soap opera, religion (yuk), feely feely maybe 2 mins of zombie attack if lucky. Sometimes none. that's it never watching this cr@p again

Last 1-2 eps = action, suspense, awesome, what a great show, all is forgiven

The thing that really annoyed me was the first 3 or 4 eps where they're all trying desperately to explain to each other these dead people that were walking and attacking them and somehow weren't dead but they weren't allowed to say the word "zombie". Just because that would make it just another zombie show.


I'm confused... There are 5 seasons... which episodes in which seasons?
FlySurfer
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23 Apr 2014 10:38am
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FormulaNova said..
The world has gone crazy, and there are zombies everywhere, so why do these people act like they are on a summer holiday and camp out! It's like the same virus that caused the zombies has caused general stupidity.


I feel the same way about the world today... but I still go kiting and take in the rays on my sun lounger.

Ideally I'd boobie trap my place... you know a couple frag grenades with trip wires; but I can't buy them online.
echunda
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23 Apr 2014 10:57am
Turn it into a drinking game

1. Whenever they talk about feelings, drink
2. Whenever they kill a zombie with an inadimate object, drink
3. Whenever they come up with a dumb idea, drink
4. Whenever the gun they use fires more bullets than it should, scull
5. If there's a sex scene, rejoice!!
kiteboy dave
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23 Apr 2014 1:33pm
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FlySurfer said..

kiteboy dave said..

Typical walking dead season:

Ep 1 = heaps o zombies, action, woohoo this show's great!
Ep 2 = as above, but less, more talky still not bad, worth a watch
Ep 3-7 schmaltzy soap opera, religion (yuk), feely feely maybe 2 mins of zombie attack if lucky. Sometimes none. that's it never watching this cr@p again

Last 1-2 eps = action, suspense, awesome, what a great show, all is forgiven

The thing that really annoyed me was the first 3 or 4 eps where they're all trying desperately to explain to each other these dead people that were walking and attacking them and somehow weren't dead but they weren't allowed to say the word "zombie". Just because that would make it just another zombie show.


I'm confused... There are 5 seasons... which episodes in which seasons?


All of them.
K Dog
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23 Apr 2014 2:19pm
This happens when the writers go circular... like Son's of Anarchy.... characters NEVER learn, same mistakes......... oh lets just react the same way all the time.....

I had hope that the Walking Dead would just get better... its flat lining......

Vikings is definitely worth a look - as is GOT.... but leaning towards Vikings being the one to watch......
Mobydisc
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23 Apr 2014 2:27pm
If Game of Thrones follows the books story reasonably closely then they are worth watching, unless you have read the books. I can't bring myself to watch series four. I watched about half of the first episode and had to stop.

Perhaps the greatest aspect of Breaking Bad is the story had an ending.




FormulaNova
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23 Apr 2014 1:09pm
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FlySurfer said..


I'm confused... There are 5 seasons... which episodes in which seasons?


5 seasons? I wish they had stopped at 4... now I am going to force myself to watch the 5th one even though I feel ripped off with the previous 4!

I agree with KBD, they seem to have the same pattern to the stories, and nothing moves at a reasonable pace.

sebol
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23 Apr 2014 1:44pm
If you are into a little bit of gaming, I highly recommend the walking dead game, much better than the series in my own opinion.
Read some review first as it is certainly not the usual shoot them up game.
FormulaNova
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23 Apr 2014 5:50pm
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sebol said..

If you are into a little bit of gaming, I highly recommend the walking dead game, much better than the series in my own opinion.
Read some review first as it is certainly not the usual shoot them up game.



A game? How many times do you get to shoot Lori and say "a zombie did it" ?

I figure the plot would be far snappier on a game. Maybe that's the future. Someone records their session in the game and releases it instead of the series.
Kazan
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23 Apr 2014 8:56pm
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FormulaNova said..

I have been watching The Walking Dead after buying the seasons on Google Play.

It is so frustrating! For those that watch it, do you find it as frustrating!


Nope. I love it.

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FormulaNova said..When you are surrounded by a world full of dangerous zombies that can kill you with a bite, what do you do? Protect yourself? No, you sit around in deck chairs talking about your feelings.


Yes, but only AFTER you've killed them and cleared the area, at least for a few hours or days if you're lucky. I would do the same, to try and get a normal sense of life back. Hell, if there was a book lying about I might try and read it too! Karl does that exactly on one episode.

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FormulaNova said..You are in a prison with walls and cell blocks. Do you kill all the zombies and reinforce the walls? No, you sit around and talk about your feelings.


That's not what happened. As soon as they found the prison and then cleared the Zombies, then they started to sit down and talk about feelings, etc. I do agree their banter is sometimes over the top and too relaxed, but again I would have done the same for the reason I said above.

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Your compound is attracting more and more zombies, what do you do? Do you kill them methodically to remove the threat? No, you let them build up in such numbers where they push down the fences at which time you panic.(While talking about your feelings)


Again, that's not what happened. Yes the Zombies tore down the walls, but that's because they had a sudden influx of them that appeared out of no where. They did try and distract the zombies by sacrificing their pig sty to them, but it was a waste and to no avail. The zombie numbers was just too much. They even tried to kill them on the fence line, but realised that by killing them on the fence, the zombies that were still "alive" could climb over the dead ones. So they gave up on the fence eventually.

You must be watching a French version of the show, cause they did everything they could to stop the influx. Again I too would have done the same.

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FormulaNova said..When you go outside into the world full of zombies, do you arm yourselves? Do you carry knives and guns with you at all times? No, you put the guns in the boot, and don't worry about knives unless you happen to have one handy.


Boy you must have started watching the show half way between Season 3, because they soon discovered (Season 1 I think even), that using up their short supply of bullets was useless. That is why they started getting good at using knifes, sticks, anything with a point or an edge to penetrate into the rotten brain!

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FormulaNova said..When going on a mission to get supplies, do you take a well armed group and approach it methodically? No, you take 2 people, with minimal weapons, and spread out.


Again, I would do the same. Two people back to back can fight off a large number of Zombies, with good weapons other than a gun, that attracts them anyway due to the loud bangs. I think in Season 4 episode 12, they do exactly that and kill off heaps of them. But of course it depends on the skill level you're at with regards to killing without hesitation and without regret or emotion. Two people ruthless enough to survive can survive.

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FormulaNova said..You are involved in a gun fight and there are shots all around you, as well as hundreds of deadly zombies. Your son has just shot two zombies that are about to get you. There are many more around. What do you do? Run away with your son? No, you hug him, and talk about your feelings.


LOL. Your hypothesis on these episodes is making me laugh. Yes! Why waste precious energy and time killing off zombies in the immediate vicinity if you could just kill those that you need to, to get out of the way, and hell why not have a chat about life in general considering you can walk or even run faster than any zombie? Again, it comes down to survival and only using defences and attacks when absolutely necessary.

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You are in a prison with sick people, conveniently with hundreds of lockable cells. When the people die they turn into zombies and are a threat. What do you do? Lock them in their cells until they are better or die? No, you let them roam around the cell block and kill the others until you realise what has happened.


No. Again, that is NOT what happened. The sick kid that fell due to the flu disease was the first zombie and he attacked others in the cells because no one knew what happened to him and the attacks were coming from the inside of the prison whilst Karl and others were outside dealing with other matters. No one could have stopped the inside attacks from people that have succumbed to the "pig disease" that later turned them all to zombies. In the end, the core group of survivors from Season 1 and 2 were the only ones left. So all that nicety of Ric saving the people from the commune was a waste of time.

If anything about the show I hate, is Rick's inconsistencies with his decisions to protect the group. One day he's all lovey and accepting members from anywhere, and the next he's resisting new members, even killing them or not killing those that are more of a threat to the entire group.

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FormulaNova said..You have just been attacked by a rival group and survived, but their leader is still at large? What do you do? reinforce your compound and put sentries out? No, you dig holes in the garden and wait for the bad guy to show up and shoot you. (While talking about your feelings).

"where's Karl?", "Karl", "Karl, where's Karl!".


This is the only part of your comments that I agree with. Rick should have killed the Governor on the spot when he had the chance with the gun under the table (or was it the other way around?). Well he had a chance anyway to kill him and for the others on the outside to have turned quickly and kill off the other losers. Karl later in Season 4 says the same thing to his dad and is about to kill him thinking he turned. I still think he should have!

Personally, I love this show and Season 3 was the best so far. Full of action, drama and suspense.

Well written.
FormulaNova
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23 Apr 2014 7:51pm
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Kazan said..

This is the only part of your comments that I agree with. Rick should have killed the Governor on the spot when he had the chance with the gun under the table (or was it the other way around?). Well he had a chance anyway to kill him and for the others on the outside to have turned quickly and kill off the other losers. Karl later in Season 4 says the same thing to his dad and is about to kill him thinking he turned. I still think he should have!

Personally, I love this show and Season 3 was the best so far. Full of action, drama and suspense.

Well written.


It's you! You are Rick aren't you

It was the Governor that had the gun under the table, and even that was a bit of a plot dead-end. Why didn't he just kill Rick then?

Was I the only one that cheered when Lori died? From what I saw she was always the one telling others what to do, but not really doing much herself. Or did I miss something there too?

In actual fact, I think she was still alive, but Karl (Carl?) had enough of his annoying mum and used the 'zombie excuse'.

I still think that they didn't really do much to protect themselves. I think some of the ways they have adhoc weapons to kill the zombies is a bit silly. You would think you would develop something practical for you, and then keep it with you at all times. I wonder why all of these characters aren't always carrying at least 2 knives, a gun as backup, and their primary weapon. Yet at times they get caught out with nothing at hand. How does that work?

While I am whining, what is it with all the soft heads? I can understand zombies where maybe the flesh has decomposed (yet still able to have enough strength to bite something!), but the skull would still be very hard. It's when they kill (real) people with the same moves and weapons, and they have soft heads, that I draw the line. I guess they have to use that same sound effect somehow.

Am I thinking about the detail too much? For sure!

I just finished watching the last episode I have, and I am worried the scenario now is just another copy of the previous scenario, albeit with a different rotating cast of new actors around the core group.

You have to laugh though at some of the things pointed out in the link I included. The governor using the sights on his rifle with the right eye, which just happens to be the eye that is blinded. Go figure, he's that good a shot!

I agree though that Karl should have killed Rick. He's the central character, but meh, it still would have gone on, and no more "Karl! Where's Karl? Has anyone seen Karl?"
SandS
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24 Apr 2014 10:23am

what a great stimulation for the tv industry ...... heaps of jobs for out of work actors .... may not look to good on the re'sume though ...


2013-2014 zombie with feelings .
Mackerel
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24 Apr 2014 10:34am
The bad lip reading on you tube is pretty damn funny!
TheWolf
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24 Apr 2014 1:42pm
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FormulaNova said..

You are in a prison with walls and cell blocks. Do you kill all the zombies and reinforce the walls? No, you sit around and talk about your feelings.

You realise this is a TV series, right? It needs character development and suspense. If in the second episode they built a bunker and 'bunkered down' how long do you think people would watch that (or read, since wasnt it a comic strip?)
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Your compound is attracting more and more zombies, what do you do? Do you kill them methodically to remove the threat? No, you let them build up in such numbers where they push down the fences at which time you panic.(While talking about your feelings)

If the buildup is relentless then no, you would not waste resources fighting off a never ending horde. Which is exactly why sieges happen.

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When going on a mission to get supplies, do you take a well armed group and approach it methodically? No, you take 2 people, with minimal weapons, and spread out.

Yea, it's called a raiding party. The tactics have been around since before the middle ages. Maximum return with minimum expenditure. A well armed force would be slow. Space that could carry resources would be taken up with weaponry and ammo. The amount of food and water needed would increase with each person. Each person would carry only a percentage of that collected. You have people who are consuming food, water, time and bullets, but not at 100% carrying capacity.
Then if they are attacked, there are more people to lose. Each person lost will take their resources with them to the grave. They will therefore need more resources to be saved.

deXtrous
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24 Apr 2014 2:33pm
I'm sure it'd be a really interesting TV show if they just bunkered down in a compound and did nothing all day.
FormulaNova
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24 Apr 2014 2:12pm
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deXtrous said..

I'm sure it'd be a really interesting TV show if they just bunkered down in a compound and did nothing all day.



Hey, I agree with this, but sometimes there is too tooo much talking about feelings and not enough action. Some clever ideas would be good.

I would prefer they build walls and then fight off the hordes. I can't handle it when they have a chain link fence and don't bother reinforcing it until they have already had a huge horde partially push it down. A bit late I think. I would have walked out of that group on the first day through frustration and got bitten by a zombie no doubt.

Now, one thing I found really weird, apart from the fact its a TV show after all, is that when they go to reinforce the the chain link fence, they get out a stack of logs so that they can reinforce the fence.

Sure, not a bad idea. So hot looking Maggie gets into it chopping the logs in half with an axe so that they can reinforce the fence. The weird bit is that the logs have a nice neat chainsaw cut on the end, so someone has obviously used a chainsaw to cut them down. Why are they now using an axe?

Of course, someone could have stacked a pile of 10 metre long logs for them before the zombies, but...

Tux
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24 Apr 2014 4:45pm
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FormulaNova said..

deXtrous said..

I'm sure it'd be a really interesting TV show if they just bunkered down in a compound and did nothing all day.



Hey, I agree with this, but sometimes there is too tooo much talking about feelings and not enough action. Some clever ideas would be good.

I would prefer they build walls and then fight off the hordes. I can't handle it when they have a chain link fence and don't bother reinforcing it until they have already had a huge horde partially push it down. A bit late I think. I would have walked out of that group on the first day through frustration and got bitten by a zombie no doubt.

Now, one thing I found really weird, apart from the fact its a TV show after all, is that when they go to reinforce the the chain link fence, they get out a stack of logs so that they can reinforce the fence.

Sure, not a bad idea. So hot looking Maggie gets into it chopping the logs in half with an axe so that they can reinforce the fence. The weird bit is that the logs have a nice neat chainsaw cut on the end, so someone has obviously used a chainsaw to cut them down. Why are they now using an axe?

Of course, someone could have stacked a pile of 10 metre long logs for them before the zombies, but...



Love this show but agree that it can be a bit frustrating.
Why didn't they use Crazy african american guy from the first series idea on how to keep zombies away?
Why didn't they kill that dip**** guvner the 1st 300 times
I used to think why is Rick such a pussy but then I saw what he did in the last episode
Why aren't they all walking around with jawlss armless zombies

has anyone read the Zombie Survival guide....fantastic book...I for one can't wait until the zombie apocolypse
fingerbone
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24 Apr 2014 8:50pm
ZOMBIE LAND..... best comedy zombie movie ever....
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24 Apr 2014 7:41pm
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fingerbone said..

ZOMBIE LAND..... best comedy zombie movie ever....


Shaun of the Dead is pretty good too...
FormulaNova
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24 Apr 2014 8:31pm
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GPA said..

fingerbone said..

ZOMBIE LAND..... best comedy zombie movie ever....


Shaun of the Dead is pretty good too...



Shaun of the Dead is awesome. I saw it before I saw Dawn of the Dead, and it was even funny when I realised they were taking the piss a bit.

pueter66
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3 May 2014 6:01am
I agree i am halfway through season 2 lets kick but but no lets talk about it for three days and there are discarded tanks everywhere but lets drive a hyundai a 200 year old bus and an old station wagon, Take the tank I am screaming at the telly, i mean who gives a snapper about random hordes of zombies and blocked highways when you are driving one of those bad boys and its got a cannon. The zombies can chew on steel armoured plate forever they are never going to get in. The only series where i hope most of the whinging main cast get eaten. I am still going to watch it though
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