OK so I figured I would be a cheap ass and buy the gear I need to re-upholster a motor cycles seat.

Step 1, buy a staple gun = fail.
It's manual and a total pos, 1 in 10 will go through a sample piece of plastic.

Step 2, buy a proper pneumatic staple gun.
This is where I need the sb wizdom, I need to drive stainless steel staples which are 10mm wide (crown) and 8mm deep (leg).
I think these look suitable: www.ebay.com.au/itm/Arrow-T50-Stainless-Steel-Staples-8mm-Pack-of-1000-505SS1/302621995583
The problem is I can't find T50 pneumatic staple guns, all the T50's seem to be the same manual pos I already wasted my money on.

Q1.- What are the specs for T50, T72, JT21, 18~23ga, wide crown, narrow crown, 80 Series, etc?
Q2.- Can you provide a link to buy an affordable (~$100) pneumatic stapler + stainless steels 8mm staples?

Thanks.

cant help but geez memory kicks in....in a previous life I worked....was employed in a average furniture manufacturers place, one obnoxious piece of turd was gloating about getting married and crapping on about no bucks party from us....problem solved 16 hours before his wedding, boss was away and we sat down for a few drinks, suddenly he was grabbed (still in his overalls) thrown on a workbench and air gun staples in starburst fashion. We shut down place turned the lights out and went home.
By 11pm police had been notified and started search for him, shining flashlights into said workshop there he was covered in his own pi** & shoit. Boss was away so the blame got shafted every which way.

I am still wary of air staplers.

Bought a pneumatic stapler from these guys 5years ago , used regularly and still going strong . Completely servicable- they have their own branded staples
Will pm you the mob we deal with when I find the receipt
kihlberg.com/en/

What sort of motorcycle ?

****ing.... Gold... Tonz

I bought a 12v Milwaukee one and it is a ripper, but haven't compared it to a pneumatic one. I'm pretty sure it uses T50staples but costs more than $100 especially if you're not already in the Milwaukee club...

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Imax1 said..
What sort of motorcycle ?

1L performance.

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kk said..
I bought a 12v Milwaukee

I'm in the Makita ecosystem, but I read electric, while better than manual still doesn't hold a candle to pneumatic.

I just don't understand why they can't just say:
Crown: 10mm
Leg: 8mm
Gauge: 0.8mm or 20

Instead they come up w/ all these weird numbers and terms, T50, 80 Series - 16

Will this combo work?:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/PROTON-AIR-80-SERIES-AIR-STAPLER-STAPLE-GUN/150829979645
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Arrow-T50-Stainless-Steel-Staples-8mm-Pack-of-1000-505SS1/302621995583

Update; read: #7 series staples 22 Gauge, #8 (80) series staples 20 Gauge, and T-50 series staples 20 Gauge

Will a 1/2" stapler handle 3/8" staples?

www.thetoolstore.com.au/air-tools/air-nail-guns/staplers/paslode-maestri-me-16-4000-electric.html

Been using one of these in the marine game for over a decade. Its punch is a little down on air driven but really convenient for normal upholstery work. Only got it because I couldn't use air on site once, has never let me down & use it now a lot more than my air unit.

3 bunnings guys + couple open packets + calipers revealed:

No universal standard.

Narrow crown = 5.7mm = 6000 series 18ga seems most common.
Wide crown = 12.8mm = 8000 series but they could be 21 or 22 ga and you don't know until you open or the box shows.

Last 2 digits denote length, so 8008 = 12.8mm crown, 8mm leg
To fire these you need an 80-16 Stapler, but the stapler also needs to define gauge 20 or 21 or 22.

T50 no one knew but they assume is just Arrow.
I don't need stainless steal, just galvanized.

So pretty confusing.

21 gauge seems to be the most common here.

I had to re-upholster a jet ski seat and went through the same ordeal as you.

I started with a 240V electric. Absolutely useless for any demanding task, no penetration.

Then got a decent pneumatic gun. So much POWER!!!.

Then it was the stainless staples that were the problem. They would just crumble and squish trying to embed themselves. Adjusting the PSI didn't help much, because if they finally penetrated it would rip straight through the upholstery.

Then after a few different brands, many sizes and styles of staples. BINGO.

Correct PSI and this style of staple made the work as easy as it should of been. The chisel point style didn't work for me.

Similar to this



www.hardwaresales.com/media/image/downloadables/staple_101.pdf

The problem was the plastic I was firing into was so hard.

The divergent style worked perfect.

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Windpasser said..
I went through the same ordeal as you.

I'm too invested now, I'll get there... still waiting for my seat cover to arrive seatconcepts.com/products/yamaha-2017-fz10

I have used both Staple guns many times since. Great buy.

They are a great tool. It was getting the bastards to dig into the hard plastic which screwed me to try different staples.

Wood is easy.

I found using a practice board with the fabric/vinyl helped, because with too much PSI it went straight through the material.

That was after finding a staple that could penetrate the plastic. Wood is easy.

Just bought an Ozito elec stapler from bunning for a caravan reno, working great so far.
$59