Skepticism and critical thinking

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Brent in Qld
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10 Aug 2024 3:40pm



fangman
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10 Aug 2024 11:28pm
Well locusts for sure, but defo amblyopia!
Brent in Qld
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fangman
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12 Aug 2024 1:24pm
I only just found out that according to those smart chappies on the interwebby thing, that Finland doesn't actually exist. It's just a construct between the USSR and Japan. So with a couple of falls in the SB cognitive logic hurdles race, you end up with this:



(Using the same maths, Australia doesn't exist either )
Carantoc
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12 Aug 2024 3:00pm
I see the obvious error in this logic.

The survey is about Finns, but then it is extrapolated to relate to Finland without any basis.

Not only does the existence of Finland not solely rely on the presence of a Finn somewhere in the world, but not all Finns are even Finnish.

www.famousbirthdays.com/names/finn.html
Carantoc
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15 Aug 2024 8:34am
Seems quiet. Not much happening in the world except via funny pictures ?

Argh I see..., remery is taking five in the naughty corner doing loads of critical thinkin' via a seabreeze.com.au ban.

Maybe he is getting into breaking and will be back with a vengance soon, busting out some big new moves ?

Forget the rumble in the jungle, I'm guessing this is gonna be the hubris-in-da-'hood - rem-gun vs PCD, winner takes all the silver on the street.
D3
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15 Aug 2024 9:37am
Sure, I'll bite.

What's with chiropractors and belief in magic or fictional SciFi technology?

Just read about the one in Brisbane who reckons she can use a Sonic screwdriver looking device to fix non-verbal autistic kids brains.

I suppose it's better than claiming she can cure cancer with it
fangman
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15 Aug 2024 12:32pm
I had always thought the placebo effect was very effective. I don't know anything about the sonic screwdriver case^ but I am not sure how effective placebo cues would be on a non verbal autistic. Curious. Someone fill in the blanks for me pls.
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15 Aug 2024 12:50pm
GasHazard
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15 Aug 2024 3:15pm
Pcdefender said..

What's your point Pete? McCarthy is widely regarded as an ass. In reality he was just another paranoid pearl clutching conservative with a platform, not unlike a Fox presenter come to think of it.
Pcdefender
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15 Aug 2024 1:30pm
GasHazard said..


Pcdefender said..



What's your point Pete? McCarthy is widely regarded as an ass. In reality he was just another paranoid pearl clutching conservative with a platform, not unlike a Fox presenter come to think of it.



My point - are you kidding?

His prediction is coming true.
Carantoc
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fangman
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15 Aug 2024 1:36pm
What's the difference between communistic atheism and plain ol' atheism?
Carantoc
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15 Aug 2024 1:39pm
Pcdefender said...
My point - are you kidding?

His prediction is coming true.


Not really a prediction though ?

The quote says "Today we are...", so more of factual statement of the events occuring at the time.

I was wondering if he meant specifically on that one day, i.e. a one day war, or a more general "we are currently in today's times".

Eitherway, I'd guess the quote is at least fifty years old. A prediction would have been "in fifty years time my prediction that we will be in a war will be seen as nonsense/totally true".

Would be close to one of the longest wars on record, especially one in which the none of the combatants know they are actually at war.
Carantoc
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15 Aug 2024 1:43pm
fangman said..
What's the difference between communistic atheism and plain ol' atheism?


I'd guess the difference is best explained by Bloom's taxonomy.


fangman
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15 Aug 2024 4:49pm
GasHazard said..

Pcdefender said..


What's your point Pete? McCarthy is widely regarded as an ass. In reality he was just another paranoid pearl clutching conservative with a platform, not unlike a Fox presenter come to think of it.


Joe McCarthy, alcoholic and morphine addict, dead at 48. I am sure he had some good points, but hardly a figure for homage.
myscreenname
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Carantoc said..

I'd guess the difference is best explained by Bloom's taxonomy.




I didn't see that at first, but I think that chart is spot on.
fangman
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15 Aug 2024 5:52pm
I get stuck at level 1. Remember.
psychojoe
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15 Aug 2024 7:31pm
D3 said..
Sure, I'll bite.

What's with chiropractors and belief in magic or fictional SciFi technology?

Just read about the one in Brisbane who reckons she can use a Sonic screwdriver looking device to fix non-verbal autistic kids brains.

I suppose it's better than claiming she can cure cancer with it


You mean like this

www.mountsinai.org/care/urology/services/minimally-invasive/hifu#:~:text=High%20Intensity%20Focused%20Ultrasound%2C%20or,killing%20just%20the%20cancer%20cells.
D3
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15 Aug 2024 9:31pm
Except I don't think she shines the lasers inside the kids heads
psychojoe
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16 Aug 2024 9:54am
Perhaps she's reliant upon the gut-brain axis. Not gonna fix genetics but might ameliorate symptoms.
I should note, I haven't looked her up so I have no idea what you're talking about.
D3
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16 Aug 2024 12:05pm
I am sceptical that laser's light applied externally can have such profound impact on neurological state.
fangman
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16 Aug 2024 2:00pm
Do we have any info on what wavelength and the power output of the laser? Do you have to be a Jedi to use it? So many questions.
Carantoc
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16 Aug 2024 2:53pm
I thought D3 said it was a sonic screwdriver.

Sonic screwdrivers are not laser based devices.

They are Gallifreyen technology that uses sound waves to locally move objects along that object's own cosmic timeline and existance.

Mmm...... some explaination here, but I think they may have dumbed it down a bit...

www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/what-is-a-sonic-screwdriver
fangman
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16 Aug 2024 5:12pm
D3 said..
Sure, I'll bite.

What's with chiropractors and belief in magic or fictional SciFi technology?

Just read about the one in Brisbane who reckons she can use a Sonic screwdriver looking device to fix non-verbal autistic kids brains.

I suppose it's better than claiming she can cure cancer with it






I couldn't find much research on this, (but in truth, I was a bit lazy). I found this journal. Not sure how much cred to give it. The journal has a relatively low impact score (5.9) and it reads more like a magazine than research, but perhaps that's a translation thing. The journal is a publication of Chinese Association of Rehabilitation Medicine, open source and peer reviewed.
journals.lww.com/nrronline/fulltext/2024/03000/transcranial_photobiomodulation_for_the_brain__a.8.aspx.

Here is an illustration of the proposed mechanism. I will need to study this a little harder, because at first glance it doesn't look to be a compelling argument.
Pcdefender
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16 Aug 2024 6:04pm
Melbourne band Mental AZ sing about the harm caused by Big Pharma


mentalaz.bandcamp.com/track/criminals-dj-rellik
fangman
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16 Aug 2024 6:09pm
Carantoc said..
I thought D3 said it was a sonic screwdriver.

Sonic screwdrivers are not laser based devices.

They are Gallifreyen technology that uses sound waves to locally move objects along that object's own cosmic timeline and existance.

Mmm...... some explaination here, but I think they may have dumbed it down a bit...

www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/what-is-a-sonic-screwdriver


Forget the sonic screwdrivers, did we ever have a 'Best Dr Who companion' thread?
decrepit
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16 Aug 2024 9:51pm
fangman said.. >>>Forget the sonic screwdrivers, did we ever have a 'Best Dr Who companion' thread?

I've just been reading Dirk Gently's holistic detective agency.
Apparently, Douglas Adams, first wrote some of it's characters in his Dr Who episodes.
fangman
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16 Aug 2024 10:34pm
decrepit said..

fangman said.. >>>Forget the sonic screwdrivers, did we ever have a 'Best Dr Who companion' thread?


I've just been reading Dirk Gently's holistic detective agency.
Apparently, Douglas Adams, first wrote some of it's characters in his Dr Who episodes.


Defo wrong answer. It's Clara Oswald with a nod to Amy Pond and Leela
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