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Should Australia recruit Americans?

Created by D3 D3  > 9 months ago, 15 Apr 2025
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D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

15 Apr 2025 6:01am
Noting the massive cuts in Government staff, particularly Health, Education and Science, should Australia target those people for recruiting?

Surely all the other rich countries are doing their best to recruit the best and brightest out of the USA right now? Streamlined access to visas, organized process for hiring to research positions, etc. I imagine it's like the US is having a fire sale, all that's left is to see who's buying.

And what's a common complaint here in Australia? Not enough people in Education, Health and Sciences.

I imagine Dutton could jump start the nuclear plan well below budget with some savvy recruiting?
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

15 Apr 2025 10:06am
That's an interesting thought. I think the Australian "cultural cringe" is still real. I've noticed that many times radio broadcasters interview an American/Canadian expert. I've wondered how many jobs they have taken away from Australian academics. I've seen on Reddit countless comments from professors who's research funding was cut by Trump. I suspect they will be heading down under.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

15 Apr 2025 11:07am
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D3 said..
Noting the massive cuts in Government staff, particularly Health, Education and Science, should Australia target those people for recruiting?

Surely all the other rich countries are doing their best to recruit the best and brightest out of the USA right now? Streamlined access to visas, organized process for hiring to research positions, etc. I imagine it's like the US is having a fire sale, all that's left is to see who's buying.

And what's a common complaint here in Australia? Not enough people in Education, Health and Sciences.

I imagine Dutton could jump start the nuclear plan well below budget with some savvy recruiting?


I think the flaw with this is that American is already recruiting people from India and China, so why wouldn't they just come here instead?

Probably because we don't really have that much in the way of innovation.

I remember meeting someone in the science field from Europe, and they were saying that they type of jobs in science that exists in Europe just don't seem to exist here. Why would anyone bother coming here if the jobs don't exist here?

Immigration here is just an easy solution to maintaining GDP levels and keeping the economy growing. We don't really seem to have any great gaps that need filling despite what appears in the media.

Employers here really want: Cheap, cheap, able to work as many hours as required, cheap, and maybe cheap. If they can't find that here, they will argue that there is a shortage.
fangman
fangman

WA

1906 posts

15 Apr 2025 1:21pm
The brain drain appears to be real enough. There is the concept of offering scientific asylum being bandied about as well:
www.reuters.com/world/scientists-us-harried-by-trump-cuts-turn-towards-europe-2025-04-11/
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/25/europe-universities-us-researchers-trump-administration-science/
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

15 Apr 2025 5:17pm
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FormulaNova said..

I think the flaw with this is that American is already recruiting people from India and China, so why wouldn't they just come here instead?

Probably because we don't really have that much in the way of innovation.

I remember meeting someone in the science field from Europe, and they were saying that they type of jobs in science that exists in Europe just don't seem to exist here. Why would anyone bother coming here if the jobs don't exist here?

Immigration here is just an easy solution to maintaining GDP levels and keeping the economy growing. We don't really seem to have any great gaps that need filling despite what appears in the media.

Employers here really want: Cheap, cheap, able to work as many hours as required, cheap, and maybe cheap. If they can't find that here, they will argue that there is a shortage.


I'm not sure I would agree innovation-wise in my are of interest. American scientist have everything laid on the and there is heaps of money, so they don't really have to innovate. Australian, particularly Western Australian scientists (in my area) have to come up with innovative sokutuons. "Necessity is the mother of invention". Maybe with Trump, the few that have jobs will have to work a little harder.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

15 Apr 2025 11:36pm
Yes and yes there is a brain drain happening in America. China, Canada and Europe are openly head hunting scientists and university lecturers
Pugwash
Pugwash

WA

7730 posts

15 Apr 2025 9:42pm
Only if they isn't no digety damn trumper!

Urrrhh, scratch that, there's no way any sciencey, university, smarty-pantsy types were voting for Trump!! Yep, let em in!!
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