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Shed Insulation Part 2 - Which Way is Best?

Created by Shifu Shifu  > 9 months ago, 11 Jan 2017
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Shifu
Shifu

QLD

1994 posts

11 Jan 2017 1:53pm




rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

11 Jan 2017 12:15pm
my 2c...

I don't think it makes a difference to the insulation properties which way it goes...*
It would probably be better shiny side down for lighting in the shed. (Better reflected light)


*I have some similar (gold rather than blue) and it was supposed to laid dark side up for when laying before the final roof so that there isn't glare etc for the guys doing the work on the roof.
Pat O
Pat O

QLD

29 posts

11 Jan 2017 5:20pm
I have used the blue sisalation to insulate the roof, north wall and west wall of my shed. I faced the blue side down so as not to get reflected light from several directions. I have another roller door on the side wall, opposite end to enhance air flow. Anyway the shed is definitely cooler and no glare.
I would advise silverside away from you.

Cheers
Pat O.
actiomax
actiomax

NSW

1576 posts

11 Jan 2017 10:22pm
Ive got it on walls silver side facing in for reflected light but mine covers polystyrene.
Shifu
Shifu

QLD

1994 posts

12 Jan 2017 1:03pm
So far my testing shows no difference in felt temperature between the two.
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

12 Jan 2017 11:15am
That wrap has shidt house r value in that application, but better than none, venting in paramount as heat will be sandwiched and vent through overlaps unless taped, the blue is just anti glare, same as aircell or 2l2 has
Cassa
Cassa

WA

1305 posts

14 Jan 2017 3:13pm
+1^^
clarence
clarence

TAS

979 posts

16 Jan 2017 10:39pm
All heat loss and gain is by one of the following:

1) conduction- eg heat transferring through a material like a brick wall. This is where bulk insulation (like glasswool or polystyrene is most effective)
2) convection - eg where a hot breeze brings warmth into an area. This is where sealing a building from random air flows in and out is most effective (eg seals around doors, windows etc)
3) radiant heat- eg feeling the warmth of the sun on a cold day. These silver foil products operate predominantly in the radiant heat loss/gain category (esp if their joins are not sealed).

Typically, these foil type products are very good at minimising SUMMER HEAT GAIN from radiant sun heat. Little or no value in minimising conducted heat loss (eg heat loss upwards in winter) as cauncy says.

Most of the RADIANT heat is transferred in the infrared IR spectrum (not the visible spectrum). This is especially the case where the roof is above it- as all the wavelengths of light (UV, visible and IR) and heat associated with them is absorbed by the roof sheet and re-radiated below as effectively only IR radiation. The blue dye on most of these wraps is a food type dye that acts in the VISIBLE spectrum, and has little effect on the IR spectrum. So, the way it is laid should make negligible difference.

By the way, TYPICALLY, the body experiences heat in different ways, and radiant heat is typically the most dominant factor in what the body perceives as thermal comfort (nominally 60% radiant heat, 20% convection/air flow, 20% actual air temperature (conduction to atmosphere)).

Clarence
Shifu
Shifu

QLD

1994 posts

16 Jan 2017 9:56pm
Thanks for these responses everyone. I'm learning a lot. here in Qld retaining heat in winter is not something we care about. It's all about trying to keep temps down. I'll bee installing roof vents later this week.
clarence
clarence

TAS

979 posts

17 Jan 2017 9:48am
Location/climate zone is critical- as what works in one climate area can be completely irrelevant in another.

As an example (and not that this relates directly to your specific case) in cold/cool climates if you use a foil backed insulation blanket the fluff should face the outside of the building, whereas in really hot climates the fluff should generally face this inside of the building.

This is more to do with how condensation forms than the effectiveness of the insulation, but interesting to note that what works in one situation does not mean it will work everywhere.

Clarence
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