Has anyone ever heard if anyone has been attacked whilst wearing one or can anyone verify from a personal experience or encounter?

Wifey bought me an ESDS a few years ago and I have only used it a handful of times. I tend to be in the frame of mind "she'll be right".
We all know the current state of affairs out there - is there any advantage other than a positive state of mind when wearing one?

Worked with a shark researcher on a gig
I asked him on his opinion of sharks
Tiger sharks are the bin men of the ocean
Bull sharks are unpredictable like a neighbours dog
Great whites if it wants you, it's having you

Look here!

No. Not really. And esp not with a 2ton gws travelling at 60kph. Maybee deter a non feeding shark but not one with a boner. Ab diver on shark shield website with a video of him saying he would never dive again without one was later devoured by two gws.

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myusernam said..
No. Not really. And esp not with a 2ton gws travelling at 60kph. Maybee deter a non feeding shark but not one with a boner. Ab diver on shark shield website with a video of him saying he would never dive again without one was later devoured by two gws.

Get the facts right. The guy attacked wearing a shark shield was found to have it installed incorrectly by the coroner.

UWA did tests with full Peer reviewed paper to be realised shortly that says it was proven to work 9 out 10 times to stop a charging great white.

But he asked for personal experience, so unless you've been eaten whilst wearing one

So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

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RockyDude said..
So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

pretty sure he was being... sarcastic or... well whatever it means when one places tongue inside of cheek

rimjob

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myusernam said..
No. Not really. And esp not with a 2ton gws travelling at 60kph. Maybee deter a non feeding shark but not one with a boner. Ab diver on shark shield website with a video of him saying he would never dive again without one was later devoured by two gws.

Get the facts right. The guy attacked wearing a shark shield was found to have it installed incorrectly by the coroner.

UWA did tests with full Peer reviewed paper to be realised shortly that says it was proven to work 9 out 10 times to stop a charging great white.

But he asked for personal experience, so unless you've been eaten whilst wearing one

The guy he's actually talking about is Peter Clarkson. You should all read the coroners report, extremely suss and i don't think a great white was the reason for his demise!

Bull**** If I white pointer is in a predatory mode a shark shield wont stop it. Heres a preventative measure that will stop it. Unfortunately there is to many tree hugging hippies living in there perfect dreamworld and think there **** don't stink. (take JBS for instance seems he been smoking the same **** as ben cousins)

Shark culling method seems to work Its a no brainer?.

I'm not sure if I'd want to be sharting when a shark is around. Pretty sure that the smell of liquid poo would be pretty noticeable in the water.

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Bull**** If I white pointer is in a predatory mode a shark shield wont stop it. Heres a preventative measure that will stop it. Unfortunately there is to many tree hugging hippies living in there perfect dreamworld and think there **** don't stink. (take JBS for instance seems he been smoking the same **** as ben cousins)

Shark culling method seems to work Its a no brainer?.

If it's on an equal playing field I'd put my money on the shark , let's play fair, if you dare

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The guy he's actually talking about is Peter Clarkson. You should all read the coroners report, extremely suss and i don't think a great white was the reason for his demise!

I just read it and it's pretty suss isn't it? Regardless of that case, a battery powered anything isn't going to stop a 5m GWS from eating you.

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Bull**** If I white pointer is in a predatory mode a shark shield wont stop it. Heres a preventative measure that will stop it. Unfortunately there is to many tree hugging hippies living in there perfect dreamworld and think there **** don't stink.

This is my concern - Shark shields are like using an air rifle on a charging bull .

How are you guys so convinced of that? First hand experience? Or just what ya recon?

think ive watched enough failed anti shark device videos to put 2 and 2 together. it = money by the way.
cheap chineses electronics wrapped in silicone where ever they emit a signal or vibrate a pattern id feel about as comfortable surfing with great whites strapped with a dildo.

i dont even really believe a bullets going to do much that or a cull. its a bloody big body of water out there. and as long as surfers keep looking and sounding like wounded fish i dont see it ever ending.

so maybe if we insert the anti shark devices up the poompa and they emit a signal that makes you do a jumping jack on your surfboard itll show the sharks that your as fit as a fiddle and a dirty fighter so the shark will have second thoughts

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busterwa said..

Bull**** If I white pointer is in a predatory mode a shark shield wont stop it. Heres a preventative measure that will stop it. Unfortunately there is to many tree hugging hippies living in there perfect dreamworld and think there **** don't stink.

This is my concern - Shark shields are like using an air rifle on a charging bull .

Kearnsy i guess you have to listen to either the science or the internet trolls Heaps of people say that they won't work, they have no evidence of this and if they try and quote something from history, they twist it and don't explain the full story. Like above. Nothing is ever going to be full proof. They are not designed to make you invisible or 100% safe, but what they will do is give you an option to retreat when a shark has taken some interest in eating you.

It may only be a small power source, but it works on the electrical receptors of a shark, hitting their nerves. In the middle of taking a mouth of food, stick a 9 volt battery on your tongue and see if your still hell bent on taking that mouthful

Studies on shark shields have shown to work, its your decision weather or not you use one.. Why not go talk to Dave at Katana, ask him and see his reaction to the question. He has invested big bucks and had so much testing done its not funny. The science and reviews cost huge dollars (The shark shield unit testing was $1.9 million) and thats the only reason you haven't seen everything already from Dave. But its coming.

Seatbelts save lives, but not all the time. If i i hit a truck head on doing 100kms an hour its maybe not going to work, does that mean i shouldn't were one

When your kids need medical help, do you ask on a forum or go to the doctor, go to the source of the product and educate your self that way..

If your still struggling id be happy to lend you one of my boards to try

Has anyone using one been attacked?

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So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

When did i say i back the shark I said it wasn't being used correctly, he had the electrode attacked to the air hose, it needs to be submerged if you bothered to do any research you'd have known that..

If I'm in a car and not wearing my seatbelt, have an accident and die, is it then fair to quote on a forum that seat belts don't work Even though it wasn't even in use, thats what you've just done

Also were have i ever said i even like sharks What i have said repeatedly is that culling is not a successful option for water safety.. Thats not my opinion, thats from just about every study completed by anyone with any authority on the matter (With out a vested interest)

Everyone banging on about a cull, open your eyes and see it will never be an option, with 80% of all people not supporting it, it simply will not happen..

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DARTH said..
Has anyone using one been attacked?

Thats still not 100% the answer..or i should say the question.

We all vaccinate our children, why to stop spread of disease, but have they been found to be 100% safe Hell no but the science says we need to do it, and so we do. Even though not full proof. A good friend of mine's eldest boy's life changed for ever thanks to vaccinations. But the odds are still in favour so we did..

Seat belts, do they always work No but we still use them..

A electronic shark product, is for me the same.. As said its personal choice but people with no experience or evidence saying they won't work, IMHO is wrong..

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RockyDude said..
So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

When did i say i back the shark I said it wasn't being used correctly, he had the electrode attacked to the air hose, it needs to be submerged if you bothered to do any research you'd have known that..

If I'm in a car and not wearing my seatbelt, have an accident and die, is it then fair to quote on a forum that seat belts don't work Even though it wasn't even in use, thats what you've just done

Also were have i ever said i even like sharks What i have said repeatedly is that culling is not a successful option for water safety.. Thats not my opinion, thats from just about every study completed by anyone with any authority on the matter (With out a vested interest)

Everyone banging on about a cull, open your eyes and see it will never be an option, with 80% of all people not supporting it, it simply will not happen..

Its more to do with placing greater value on the life of a shark, that people.

For an Ab diver, he should be allowed to carry smokeys. And work from some sort of cage.

Shark comes along, has a look and swims off, it survives.

Shark comes in for a bite, BANG.

Your seatbelt argument is irrelevant, unless all cars had the potential to suddenly and deliberately eat people.

A closer analogy would be erasing all crosswalk markings, and warning signs for motorists, and demanding that pedestrians only cross at those points.

Removing individuals' ability to defend themselves against fish is ludicrous.

Personally, I reckon all water users should be permitted to carry smokeys if they wish.

JB, where is the footage showing GWS backing right off? Loads of footage of harmless sharks yet no GWS.

It couldn't be more ****** simple. Go to South Australia and/or South Africa, berley up some 4 and 5m whites, throw out shark sheilds on various items (boards, baits, mannequins in BCDs etc) and film what happens next. If it works you've just turned a 50k experiment into millions

If we all get Smokey's, are we allowed to use them on drop ins?

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JB, where is the footage showing GWS backing right off? Loads of footage of harmless sharks yet no GWS.

It couldn't be more ****** simple. Go to South Australia and/or South Africa, berley up some 4 and 5m whites, throw out shark sheilds on various items (boards, baits, mannequins in BCDs etc) and film what happens next. If it works you've just turned a 50k experiment into millions

For what its worth it actually is not that easy. Being a protected species its actually very difficult to test products on them. Have you not wondered why even our state government did most of their testing in South Africa..

The latest round of testing by UWA that is currently being peer reviewed is possibly the best testing to date. But there has been loads of videos showing the great whites aborting attacks. Its rather hard to replicate a charging shark and then to be able to correlate those tests over and over again, so that they can put their name to a product to say it will or won't work.

Loads of products like the new Magnet system for instance have had very little testing, a bit of their own but nothing that you'd put your house on.. Im not sure why people keep asking me, all i did was researched products because i want to mitigate the chances of an attack. GO TALK TO DAVE DIRECTLY..
This is the old testing from 2012. The current testing from last year showed 9 of 10 times the sharks was deterred in attacking towed decoy.

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JB, where is the footage showing GWS backing right off? Loads of footage of harmless sharks yet no GWS.

It couldn't be more ****** simple. Go to South Australia and/or South Africa, berley up some 4 and 5m whites, throw out shark sheilds on various items (boards, baits, mannequins in BCDs etc) and film what happens next. If it works you've just turned a 50k experiment into millions

This last part is worth separating. For many people its about getting onto a get rich idea. Ill say this I've known Dave's been at this for years now and he was only ever motivated by wanting to make it safe, for his kids to be able to surf comfortably.

But what he has started/developed is on the cusp of incredible and i wish him and Mandy all the best of success..

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jbshack said..

RockyDude said..
So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

When did i say i back the shark I said it wasn't being used correctly, he had the electrode attacked to the air hose, it needs to be submerged if you bothered to do any research you'd have known that..

If I'm in a car and not wearing my seatbelt, have an accident and die, is it then fair to quote on a forum that seat belts don't work Even though it wasn't even in use, thats what you've just done

Also were have i ever said i even like sharks What i have said repeatedly is that culling is not a successful option for water safety.. Thats not my opinion, thats from just about every study completed by anyone with any authority on the matter (With out a vested interest)

Everyone banging on about a cull, open your eyes and see it will never be an option, with 80% of all people not supporting it, it simply will not happen..

Its more to do with placing greater value on the life of a shark, that people.

For an Ab diver, he should be allowed to carry smokeys. And work from some sort of cage.

Shark comes along, has a look and swims off, it survives.

Shark comes in for a bite, BANG.

Your seatbelt argument is irrelevant, unless all cars had the potential to suddenly and deliberately eat people.

A closer analogy would be erasing all crosswalk markings, and warning signs for motorists, and demanding that pedestrians only cross at those points.

Removing individuals' ability to defend themselves against fish is ludicrous.

Personally, I reckon all water users should be permitted to carry smokeys if they wish.

Really, you are a fool god boy.......

To some, Doggie, yes that is true.

Now run back to Master.....

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jbshack said..

RockyDude said..
So you back the shark JB?

His fault for not "wearing it properly", so his fault for being eaten, by a fish. Fish innocent, and free to eat more people.

Maybe that might be some of the words recited at your obituary: "He always said that these big fish had the dominion over us humans, and he gracefully succumbed to the higher species".

Shaking my head, or for the younger generation SMH.

When did i say i back the shark I said it wasn't being used correctly, he had the electrode attacked to the air hose, it needs to be submerged if you bothered to do any research you'd have known that..

If I'm in a car and not wearing my seatbelt, have an accident and die, is it then fair to quote on a forum that seat belts don't work Even though it wasn't even in use, thats what you've just done

Also were have i ever said i even like sharks What i have said repeatedly is that culling is not a successful option for water safety.. Thats not my opinion, thats from just about every study completed by anyone with any authority on the matter (With out a vested interest)

Everyone banging on about a cull, open your eyes and see it will never be an option, with 80% of all people not supporting it, it simply will not happen..

Its more to do with placing greater value on the life of a shark, that people.

For an Ab diver, he should be allowed to carry smokeys. And work from some sort of cage.

Shark comes along, has a look and swims off, it survives.

Shark comes in for a bite, BANG.

Your seatbelt argument is irrelevant, unless all cars had the potential to suddenly and deliberately eat people.

A closer analogy would be erasing all crosswalk markings, and warning signs for motorists, and demanding that pedestrians only cross at those points.

Removing individuals' ability to defend themselves against fish is ludicrous.

Personally, I reckon all water users should be permitted to carry smokeys if they wish.

What the hell are you even on about? Sharks life over humans is stupid, but culling sharks will still not help you be protected when a shark swims at you.

As for Abb divers do you have any idea about the industry at all

Not many abb divers would want to carry a smokey, or harm a great white shark for that matter. Even if they wanted to i wonder how they'd do that, looks they they have their hands full with the CAGE the swim with

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RockyDude said..

To some, Doggie, yes that is true.

Now run back to Master.....

Cages are usually hydraulically driven and buoyancy and air is surface supplied The diving is relatively shallow and for long periods of time without deco.Expencive units 40g+ 20g second hand. I used to know some older boys who ran 2 diver one on watch. The laws in Aust don't accommodate the use of firearms unfortunately. If a unit was able to be purchased with a license it for divers I think this would be a valid option instead of culling. The privilege would be abused and the government wouldn't allow it ;-(

I wear the freedom 7 religiously but have had entanglement issues with it in heavy structure. twice completely pinned and resorted to removal.

IF YOU ARE USING A WEIGHT BELT AND HAVE TO DITCH IT KEEP IT WELL CLEAR OF THE SHEILD.

. I Think the freedom 7 are far better than the esds But the tail will get caught in shallow reef.

www.ora.tv/catchinghell/2014/9/12/powerheads-0_16c5rypwyhy6




Weight belt entanglement





So just a few of the negatives to the shart shield!

this dave guy is going to feel so stupid when the solution is jumping jacks

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busterwa said..
Cages are usually hydraulically driven and buoyancy and air is surface supplied The diving is relatively shallow and for long periods of time without deco.Expencive units 40g+ 20g second hand. I used to know some older boys who ran 2 diver one on watch. The laws in Aust don't accommodate the use of firearms unfortunately. If a unit was able to be purchased with a license it for divers I think this would be a valid option instead of culling. The privilege would be abused and the government wouldn't allow it ;-(

I wear the freedom 7 religiously but have had entanglement issues with it in heavy structure. twice completely pinned and resorted to removal.

IF YOU ARE USING A WEIGHT BELT AND HAVE TO DITCH IT KEEP IT WELL CLEAR OF THE SHEILD.

. I Think the freedom 7 are far better than the esds But the tail will get caught in shallow reef.

www.ora.tv/catchinghell/2014/9/12/powerheads-0_16c5rypwyhy6




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So just a few of the negatives to the shart shield!

Buster in the installation setup doesn't it suggest you place the electrode through the tail of your fin Not going to stop all the issues you have, just thought id check..

I have heard your less likely to get a electrical boot when its through your fin, but i have also been told people don't want to drill holes in fins..