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wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 9:50am
On hearing that the budget had a $5000 rebate on new business vehicle purchases I thought great, I need to upgrade soon, Next F.Y. will be a good time to do it. Now I find out that it is a $5000 tax deduction, Oh well not too bad will still save a couple of thou on my new ute. Then I read that this will not come int effect until 2012/13 tax year.
Why bother you idiots, [}:)][}:)][}:)]
How about getting this years right before you move into the next.
Sorry car dealers. You are going to have to wait another 14 months for my dollars.
Gizmo
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16 May 2011 9:32am


wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 11:14am
More like throwing the carrot over the cliff.
wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 12:06pm
I can't believe it, That red head dumb cow just had the hide to say " This budget is what the country needs now".
Have a look at what you put in it you flamin ding dong.[}:)][}:)][}:)]
Pugwash
Pugwash
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16 May 2011 10:38am
Bad, and getting worse!

They don't seem to understand the difference between negativity and actuality.

Do they really think it is the opposition which is making them look "ridiculous" Can they comprehend that they are doing that themselves, flip-flopping, decision by media, uncertainty

Leader's lead. Sheep follow.
Little Jon
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16 May 2011 2:08pm
Stop winging and get out and work harder if you want more money
wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 2:23pm
I never said i wanted more money, It was more a comment directed to the ridiculous policies put forward in the budget.
If I can save money by spending it wisely through my business well it just makes sense to do it when the tax benefit is there.
For you to judge how much I work and what I want in life is bit naive.
busterwa
busterwa
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16 May 2011 1:00pm
You tax can tax pay tax the lie tax the flood tax and now the tax carbon tax with your tax business tax car tax tax tax.
Pugwash
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16 May 2011 1:04pm
Little Jon said...

Stop winging and get out and work harder if you want more money


You mean under our current federal arrangements, we all need to work harder and longer for things to be like they used to be! Excellent!

It's fairness and equality
wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 3:09pm
Please explain? I have paid tax for nearly 25 yrs, most of the time I had to personally take it out of my account and give to them . If there is a tax benefit there to use I will use it.
If some peolple cannot see this point of view they don't work for themselves and/or are not very moneysmart.
Pugwash
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16 May 2011 1:25pm
@wormy:

Explain? Which part?
wormy
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16 May 2011 3:27pm
Pugwash said...

@wormy:

Explain - which bit?


Sorry not you pugwash, twas a response to busta who has since changed his point.
I think we are on the same side.
SomeOtherGuy
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16 May 2011 3:29pm
Pugwash said...

Little Jon said...

Stop winging and get out and work harder if you want more money


You mean under our current federal arrangements, we all need to work harder and longer for things to be like they used to be! Excellent!

It's fairness and equality


Like they used to be before or after the tax cut upon tax cut?

I think a lot of you lot just like to whine.
Pugwash
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16 May 2011 1:36pm
wormy said...
Sorry not you pugwash, twas a response to busta who has since changed his point.
I think we are on the same side.


he he he... maybe...

Just thought there might have been something to stick my left boot into

SomeOtherGuy said...

Like they used to be before or after the tax cut upon tax cut?

I think a lot of you lot just like to whine.


I do like wine... both red and white...

Oddly enough - over the last 10 years, most of the tax breaks, and then new taxes have not been to my benefit... think it has something to do with when I went through uni (big increases in HECS), the Howard years of tax cuts to the higher income earners - which I was not, and now the Labs slug fest...

Whine and the truth...

Negativity vs actual...
wormy
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16 May 2011 3:42pm
I think most of the tax cuts were in John Howard days, after the GST began to rake in the billions, we still payed a lot tax but it didn't feel as bad as it was less noticable.
I heard a political analiser the other day say one of the reasons the liberal economy was so good was that they gave the money back to the people who knew how to spend it.
People had money and spent money, kept the world(australia) going around.
I think this was on the money.
wormy
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16 May 2011 3:55pm
Just to keep to my original point
Personally i think it is quite silly to announce tax benefits for anything into the following years budget, They should stick to trying to get this years one right before moving onto the next year.
Thats it. point over.
If you want to read anything else into it go and knockyourself out.
Pugwash
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WA
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16 May 2011 2:02pm
^^^ Agree. But then, it can be announced all over again next year... just like ground hog day!

Do nothing, when doing nothing is warranted... That is not now!
cisco
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16 May 2011 4:28pm
wormy said...

Just to keep to my original point
Personally i think it is quite silly to announce tax benefits for anything into the following years budget, They should stick to trying to get this years one right before moving onto the next year.
Thats it. point over.
If you want to read anything else into it go and knockyourself out.


If you want some tax benefits, maybe you should become a refugee.

In our local paper it said that the ranga and her lot had allocated $70,000/head/year to refugees and you can bet it will be tax free.

SomeOtherGuy
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16 May 2011 4:36pm
wormy, yeah, dunno about the next year's money thing. Both sides seem to do it. I seem to recall it becoming a fad under Keating who argued that next year's money affected this year although I never could understand why. Certainly though, I do agree with you that if there's a tax benefit then it's our civic duty to make use of it.

@cisco - Give it a rest. Surely you can find something else to whine about?
FormulaNova
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WA
15100 posts
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16 May 2011 2:48pm
wormy said...

On hearing that the budget had a $5000 rebate on new business vehicle purchases I thought great, I need to upgrade soon, Next F.Y. will be a good time to do it. Now I find out that it is a $5000 tax deduction, Oh well not too bad will still save a couple of thou on my new ute. Then I read that this will not come int effect until 2012/13 tax year.
Why bother you idiots, [}:)][}:)][}:)]
How about getting this years right before you move into the next.
Sorry car dealers. You are going to have to wait another 14 months for my dollars.


So you are upset that a tax cut/rebate you will benefit from in the future has been announced?

I can't take advantage of it. Should I be outraged that you can? Bloody politicians! They never get it right so that only I benefit!

Sadly, I think politicians take too much notice of approval polls, but I think this is because the media push this so much. Unfortunately mud sticks, so to ignore polls is probably not wise either...





Pugwash
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16 May 2011 3:16pm
@SomeOtherGuy - keating was on a side? I thought the only side he was on was his own - and still is Funny guy...

@FormulaNova - you make a good point - better to know in advance, if you are planning a capital outlay, that way you have an opportunity to plan for the alternative - i.e. the rebate, deduction etc.
wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 5:16pm
FormulaNova said...

wormy said...

On hearing that the budget had a $5000 rebate on new business vehicle purchases I thought great, I need to upgrade soon, Next F.Y. will be a good time to do it. Now I find out that it is a $5000 tax deduction, Oh well not too bad will still save a couple of thou on my new ute. Then I read that this will not come int effect until 2012/13 tax year.
Why bother you idiots, [}:)][}:)][}:)]
How about getting this years right before you move into the next.
Sorry car dealers. You are going to have to wait another 14 months for my dollars.


So you are upset that a tax cut/rebate you will benefit from in the future has been announced?

I can't take advantage of it. Should I be outraged that you can? Bloody politicians! They never get it right so that only I benefit!

Sadly, I think politicians take too much notice of approval polls, but I think this is because the media push this so much. Unfortunately mud sticks, so to ignore polls is probably not wise either...







FN, anything stopping you from working for yourself so you can take advantage of it. Or just personal choice. Which we all have.



wormy
wormy
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16 May 2011 5:18pm
Pugwash said...

@SomeOtherGuy - keating was on a side? I thought the only side he was on was his own - and still is Funny guy...

@FormulaNova - you make a good point - better to know in advance, if you are planning a capital outlay, that way you have an opportunity to plan for the alternative - i.e. the rebate, deduction etc.



Not to sure if its good for the car dealers next year.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
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16 May 2011 4:44pm
wormy said...

FormulaNova said...

wormy said...

On hearing that the budget had a $5000 rebate on new business vehicle purchases I thought great, I need to upgrade soon, Next F.Y. will be a good time to do it. Now I find out that it is a $5000 tax deduction, Oh well not too bad will still save a couple of thou on my new ute. Then I read that this will not come int effect until 2012/13 tax year.
Why bother you idiots, [}:)][}:)][}:)]
How about getting this years right before you move into the next.
Sorry car dealers. You are going to have to wait another 14 months for my dollars.


So you are upset that a tax cut/rebate you will benefit from in the future has been announced?

I can't take advantage of it. Should I be outraged that you can? Bloody politicians! They never get it right so that only I benefit!

Sadly, I think politicians take too much notice of approval polls, but I think this is because the media push this so much. Unfortunately mud sticks, so to ignore polls is probably not wise either...


FN, anything stopping you from working for yourself so you can take advantage of it. Or just personal choice. Which we all have.



Sorry, I was joking about the outraged bit. I was trying to point out that you are going to get a benefit, so why are you bothered by it? It looks like the glass is half full from where I sit.

I think the government is between a rock and a hard place as they have to deliver a surplus to keep the opposition off their backs, as well as trying to deliver benefits to the public as well. If they deliver a deficit, they get canned. If they deliver a surplus, they get canned.

For what its worth I could probably take advantage of it as I have a business and do work for myself. A lot of people in my line of business use a car as a deduction, but not for me.

I have to say I have taken next to no notice of the budget. The only thing that I heard that sounded interesting was the tax breaks on cars based on the distance traveled. I have worked with guys that have taken long driving trips for holidays just to get a tax benefit as they needed to get into the next distance bracket. It seems a crazy thing to reward someone for.


wormy
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16 May 2011 7:00pm


Why am I bothered about it,
Because I Wanted it NOW!!!!![}:)][}:)]
My ute prob want last another 14months
I probably buy late model of a dealer and just get back the GST.
Ive seen to many promises in the wind get lost or forgoten by the time its due for them to pay out.





SandS
SandS
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16 May 2011 7:13pm

go buy a second hand ute and save the 5 grand or even 10 grand right ffing now!!!
SandS
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16 May 2011 7:15pm
Gizmo said...






+1 eeeooooorrr
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