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Perth surf park

Created by Razzonater Razzonater  > 9 months ago, 27 Jul 2017
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Razzonater
Razzonater

2224 posts

27 Jul 2017 10:27pm
Greetings all,
I am in discussion with perth surf park supporters on the facebook.
They are under some serious resistence to build the park.
I have offered my skills as a guerilla campaigner to generate a petition which I am working on at current.
In the interim i beg of you to please like the perth surf park supporter page on facebook.
When you do this please also post rasputin in the comments.
I know all want this however I am trying to cut a deal if we get enough people tagged in that they generate a free day for a winner from people who sign the petition and those from seabreeze.
I dont know the details or how it will work out I also dont even know if this is something laurie would think of as an add. If so I apologise I just want the bloody thing built.
If ever you have read one of my posts and thought this guys is a peanut or alternatively felt sorry for my parents for having me this is the time to reach out and help me help you.
I dont care if you dont live in perth and just want to help.
Please I beg of you go on facebook perth surf park supporters page like it follow it and write rasputin.
Together some of us will be selected upon build and you can take it in turns to drop in and snake me for all the offensive remarks I have made about your wave riding vehicles moon hoax theories and other.
All comments welcome.
This is people power gents.
busterwa
busterwa

3782 posts

27 Jul 2017 10:51pm
I could imagine it would be crazily overpriced and full of mega rich blowins. The que for a wave will be longer than a cottesloe close-out.
In saying that Im for it as it will create construction jobs ,long term employment and generate tourism.
Emeboy
Emeboy

NSW

399 posts

28 Jul 2017 9:07am
Done Razz... Difficult to believe how close minded some people are. A quality wave park in WA would be massive for tourism as well as the benefit of the construction work. Buster is correct as well, could be crowded and overpriced initially but if it goes off like I predict it will, the gate is open for more facilities to follow.
dmitri
dmitri

VIC

1040 posts

28 Jul 2017 9:16am
Would love to help, Raz..but I don't support facebook




jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

28 Jul 2017 12:27pm
Was already on the page, but added your critic message.

I really hope this park gets of the ground. For gods sake what is wrong with some people.
ThePhil
ThePhil

WA

1322 posts

28 Jul 2017 1:59pm
A friend of mine has been to the one in Wales, snowdonia, said it was great. Quite the opposite with crowds and parking, say 20 people for a session that's it, they just sell the tickets then it's full. Probably less crowded than a quarter full bowls club.
Buster fin
Buster fin

WA

2597 posts

28 Jul 2017 2:48pm
Yeah, but this is the home of the mining rich, where price is of no concern!
Build it and they will surf, family fortune be buggered.


They'll over-charge, see limited patronage, and fold. And us lucky tax payers will fund all kinds of related recovery attempts without being able to afford to surf it ourselves.

Can I take off my sceptical specs now?


I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
Razzonater
Razzonater

2224 posts

28 Jul 2017 3:07pm
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Buster fin said..
Yeah, but this is the home of the mining rich, where price is of no concern!
Build it and they will surf, family fortune be buggered.


They'll over-charge, see limited patronage, and fold. And us lucky tax payers will fund all kinds of related recovery attempts without being able to afford to surf it ourselves.

Can I take off my sceptical specs now?


I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.


You are correct buster as i too am sceptical however whether i us it or not surely it will reduce guys at our local?????
Or alternatively late night discount sessions there,???????
Out of interest what is the going rate for snowdania??? How long do you get how many people and ay what cost???
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

28 Jul 2017 3:23pm
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Razzonater said..

Buster fin said..
Yeah, but this is the home of the mining rich, where price is of no concern!
Build it and they will surf, family fortune be buggered.


They'll over-charge, see limited patronage, and fold. And us lucky tax payers will fund all kinds of related recovery attempts without being able to afford to surf it ourselves.

Can I take off my sceptical specs now?


I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.



You are correct buster as i too am sceptical however whether i us it or not surely it will reduce guys at our local?????
Or alternatively late night discount sessions there,???????
Out of interest what is the going rate for snowdania??? How long do you get how many people and ay what cost???


With luck it will get a lot of learners away from the beach.
HENDO 77
HENDO 77

WA

290 posts

28 Jul 2017 4:27pm
So is this wave park like Kelly Slaters one or the one at waterbom in bali where you don't go anywhere rill ya fall off
MikeyG
MikeyG

WA

156 posts

28 Jul 2017 8:09pm
I've surfed Surf Snowdonia. It was about $50 an hour from memory. Not cheap but with just two of us sharing a wave meant I walked away thinking it was good value. I really enjoyed the surf too.

I was really surprised how family friendly it was too - not just aimed at surfers, but the whole family. There was even a bus load of pensioners who stopped by to watch the surfers.

The perth park will have the most recent technology and looks even better. And it will be warm!

I can't wait and I live around the corner! I also can't wait to teach my son to surf here (he'll be 5 when it open).
bene313
bene313

WA

1347 posts

28 Jul 2017 9:22pm
What does "write Rasputin" mean?
thedrip
thedrip

WA

2355 posts

29 Jul 2017 12:28am
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busterwa said..
I could imagine it would be crazily overpriced and full of mega rich blowins. The que for a wave will be longer than a cottesloe close-out.
In saying that Im for it as it will create construction jobs ,long term employment and generate tourism.


What constitutes a blow in there?

you giving the SW a miss this summer?
Greenroom
Greenroom

WA

7608 posts

29 Jul 2017 10:24am
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thedrip said..

busterwa said..
I could imagine it would be crazily overpriced and full of mega rich blowins. The que for a wave will be longer than a cottesloe close-out.
In saying that Im for it as it will create construction jobs ,long term employment and generate tourism.



What constitutes a blow in there?

you giving the SW a miss this summer?


Hahaha
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

30 Jul 2017 9:42am
What sh1ts me about this is because the proposed area is next door to the rich folk, they are opposing it.
But most of them became rich from development like this, even if only indirectly. Capitalism is great til its in your suburb hey richies???

Bloody NIMBYs
ThinkaBowtit
ThinkaBowtit

WA

1134 posts

30 Jul 2017 10:15am
^^ "NIMBY" is a fun label to use until it is you opposing something. I've been hit with the label lately (by the dick wanting to spend his bucks in my serene location) and it pisses me off, because it's a legit complaint about a noisy eyesore proposed for a pristine area that was never supposed be home to any business venture, let alone one that involves big **** off 24 hour gennies that quite frankly, I don't want to listen to every night. Rant over.
Shane
Shane

WA

202 posts

30 Jul 2017 10:17am
I reckon the beautiful wide open grassy area there is extremely valuable to anybody living in a city. It's one of the nicest bits of Perth and as a public open space it's free for everybody to enjoy.

Leave the area the way it is and build 10 wave parks/shopping centres/concert halls anywhere else- they don't need to go on the river foreshore.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

30 Jul 2017 12:04pm
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Shane said..
I reckon the beautiful wide open grassy area there is extremely valuable to anybody living in a city. It's one of the nicest bits of Perth and as a public open space it's free for everybody to enjoy.

Leave the area the way it is and build 10 wave parks/shopping centres/concert halls anywhere else- they don't need to go on the river foreshore.


Why not build it on reclaimed land out into the river?

Get both??
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

30 Jul 2017 1:23pm
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Shane said..
I reckon the beautiful wide open grassy area there is extremely valuable to anybody living in a city. It's one of the nicest bits of Perth and as a public open space it's free for everybody to enjoy.

Leave the area the way it is and build 10 wave parks/shopping centres/concert halls anywhere else- they don't need to go on the river foreshore.


I agree, but Perth has more of that space than any major city (?)
I'd rather see the wave park than another Elizabeth Quay or the Scarborough redevelopment or another dig up the beach to make more marina and rich apartments.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

30 Jul 2017 1:25pm
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ThinkaBowtit said..
^^ "NIMBY" is a fun label to use until it is you opposing something.


Good point, I was unhappy about a development near me it was supposed to be a small suburban shopping centre and turned out to be Woolees and BWS grrrr.
HENDO 77
HENDO 77

WA

290 posts

31 Jul 2017 4:27pm
Send it to Mandurah , wont catch me whinging
Razzonater
Razzonater

2224 posts

1 Aug 2017 4:05am
Greetings gents,

When seeing all the comments here some positive some not so much for the wave park.
Shane reckons a field of grass is better and everyone likes that more than a wave park........
Whilst It causes me to facepalm and i dont understand please enjoy the lawn get out there and have a game of bowls with all the other retirees who live around there............

Unbelievable....wa wait awhile....
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

1 Aug 2017 7:50am
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Razzonater said..
Greetings gents,

When seeing all the comments here some positive some not so much for the wave park.
Shane reckons a field of grass is better and everyone likes that more than a wave park........
Whilst It causes me to facepalm and i dont understand please enjoy the lawn get out there and have a game of bowls with all the other retirees who live around there............

Unbelievable....wa wait awhile....


****ing Shane!
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

1 Aug 2017 9:19am
Projects like these need to have many positives to offset the negatives, like ensuring the huge amount of energy they use is carbon neutral (attach it to a solar PV and battery storage facility that can power local homes), rather than run it on coal or gas power. Or, make sure the water used is recycled or sourced from the sea rather than potable water from a tap with added salt...

Anything you can do to make it a sustainable and value-added development helps.

If you just whack it up and don't think about those things in 2017, you're staring at a failure in the making ....

I wish you all the best.
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

1 Aug 2017 4:35pm
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Razzonater said..
Greetings gents,

When seeing all the comments here some positive some not so much for the wave park.
Shane reckons a field of grass is better and everyone likes that more than a wave park........
Whilst It causes me to facepalm and i dont understand please enjoy the lawn get out there and have a game of bowls with all the other retirees who live around there............

Unbelievable....wa wait awhile....


Seems by all the green thumbs, he is not alone in wanting grass over waves
Razzonater
Razzonater

2224 posts

1 Aug 2017 7:25pm
You know what jb your right a guy has posted on here most likely from am antifa lawn group and cranked the green thumbs.
I strongly suspect "shane" is a local in the area and maybe has shares in the bowls club...
A lot of green thumbs with no other comments..........
Shane and green thumbers im calling you out ......
What you say s?
Adriano has some valid points about solar power and the lik yet no doubt burns fossil fuels in his car and enjoys the odd cage farmed boiled egg with his soy latte. So whilst some of comments have credit i font see real weight behind them, you could always campaign adventure worlds use of power on the roller coaster if you really cared or perhaps one of the 15 screen cinemas etc etc....
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

2 Aug 2017 5:29am
Gee I was just offering some suggestions and you shoot me down with typical myths about politically polarised dietary choices or the fact that I like millions of other Aussies drive a car! Imagine that? A car!

Bad form mate. Not a great way to campaign for a controversial construction project.

I looked at the proposed design and I can't see a single solar panel or mention of any renewable energy integration. Seriously? In Perth? In 2017?

Other than that I can see the merit in the overall proposal, but I question the eventual commercial success of the residential component. I question if people really want to live in the middle of a noisy busy amusement park. Surfers yes, but how many surfers would actually buy in?
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

2 Aug 2017 9:52am
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Razzonater said..
You know what jb your right a guy has posted on here most likely from am antifa lawn group and cranked the green thumbs.
I strongly suspect "shane" is a local in the area and maybe has shares in the bowls club...
A lot of green thumbs with no other comments..........
Shane and green thumbers im calling you out ......
What you say s?
Adriano has some valid points about solar power and the lik yet no doubt burns fossil fuels in his car and enjoys the odd cage farmed boiled egg with his soy latte. So whilst some of comments have credit i font see real weight behind them, you could always campaign adventure worlds use of power on the roller coaster if you really cared or perhaps one of the 15 screen cinemas etc etc....


The sad truth is that Shane has around 190 plus posts. Thats a lot to make up and infiltrate a surfing forum just to bag out a new development. Id say sadly some people just cant see the positives and as i pointed out, the green thumbs shows his support.

Adriano the development won't create a noisy amusement park it will be a opportunity to enhance an area that is underyutilazed currently. As for noise, well its right alongside Canning highway, i cant see it drowning out the traffic buzz..

Power though is an issue, and it would be good to see some sort of green option. The issue with most wave pools is the on going power costs. The standing wave in Joondalup around from me was held up, simply because their simply wasn't enough power to the building or area. So a sub meter (Or transformer or something) needed to be built, with western power trying to push the $75000 cost onto the developer..

The reality is WA needs this wave park. Why because with out it what have we had new in the last ten years, hell last 20 years
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

2 Aug 2017 10:36am
Well if noise is not such an issue then it may be OK.

I still question the complete apparent lack of renewable energy initiatives in the master plan. Wave parks use huge amounts of power to drive the surf and filter water.
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

2 Aug 2017 10:37am
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DARTH said..
^^ Fk OFF!


That's not very helpful. Whats your issue?
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

2 Aug 2017 10:51am
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Adriano said..

DARTH said..
^^ Fk OFF!



That's not very helpful. Whats your issue?


You, it's WA not Vic. We want it. You don't live here and you are a windsurfer. That my issue, fk off..
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