Would it be cynical to think that having an excuse to have daily live press conferences so close to an election would be handy? I guess time will tell, imagine if no further cases are found?

kk said..
Would it be cynical to think that having an excuse to have daily live press conferences so close to an election would be handy? I guess time will tell, imagine if no further cases are found?

If anything, doesn't it show that despite the response, that WA is not performing any better than other state? I.e. the Premiers response is good, but not particularly different to others and just lucky that the volumes are less? To me, its not a positive thing, even if there are no other cases that pop up.

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decrepit said..
Yes if rigging/derigging time is included I'll be lucky to have 10mins on the water.

Mike, send Dot down earlier to rig for you??

good idea, but don't think it will work.

There is mention now in the media about how the quarantine setup in Perth is run by cowboys and relies on a lot of student visa holders. I hope this is better run than the setup they had in Victoria. With only 20 hours a week allowed on student visas, these people pretty much have to get another cash job to get by.

I know in Sydney there were a lot of 'student visa' people working more than 40 hours a week and in order to keep within the restrictions of their visas they would be working cash in hand jobs. Who wants that when you need to be able to track people quickly if something goes wrong?

Maybe its time all state governments started to treat this a bit differently? Its good keeping hotels occupied and helping out people with 20 hours a week of work, but it would be better to not shut everyone down also.

FormulaNova said..
There is mention now in the media about how the quarantine setup in Perth is run by cowboys and relies on a lot of student visa holders.

I would believe this since one of the places the security guard visited is Indian Consulate in Perth....

Our time is nigh!

Fire rains from above and pestilence ravages our land.

The Victorians must be laughing.

I blame it all on those sinful bogans who support the West Coast Eagles.

You have bought this on us.

Seems like all these outbreaks have one commonality, hotels quarantine. It's time to have real quarantine. Real quarantine might cost more but it will cost less than the lockdowns.

Quarantine areas in the middle of big cities does not make sense. People infected or potentially infected should be isolated from other people, not placed in the middle of a city with a million people.

At least Adelaide have designated one hotel as a dedicated medi-hotel for positive cases. My understanding is that everyone that tests positive gets sent to that hotel.

In theory this hotel should have better infection control and physical security. It makes a lot of sense given that not everyone undergoing quarantine from overseas is tested positive. I think they are staffing it a bit differently too.

If its a single hotel, or minimised to certain hotels, surely you could then provide better control of the workers there and potentially have them located onsite for the weeks that they are on shift?

So this security guard caught the extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
He went to multiple locations (while contagious) and had contact with dozens of people, yet no one caught it off him.

What am I missing here?

Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.

kiterboy said..Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.

The hotel where the security guard became infected is well known to me!!

I worked there when it was first built [as "THE ORCHARD HOTEL"]
My role was in the engineering department with a very large part of my job for 5 1/2 years being looking after the aircon system.
In the early days, this involved a lot of fine tuning, balancing of the air supply, modifying the impractical hybrid pneumatic + computerised control system so it would actually work, fault finding etc.
While the air con's control system has probably been upgraded from the original Honeywell pneumatic system to a more efficient and modern electronic system - I imagine that the basic ducting of supply and return air will still be the original design.

The filtered incoming air is pumped into each room and the used air [return air] then passes through a duct over the entry door and out into the corridor where it is drawn into the return air shafts near the lifts.
Normally, a percentage of this air is recycled so as to reduce the cost of cooling needed for the building.
With the hotel being used for quarantine - I would hope that the recycling of used air is blocked off and only fresh air supplied to the rooms.

So, in a nutshell - the air being supplied to a room that has an infectious person, passes down the corridor on the way to the return air shafts.
Anyone in that corridor is totally surrounded by potentially contaminated air and has no option but to breathe that air.
Even if the guards and staff are using masks and face shields - there would be no guarantee of safety!

it always amazes me how otherwise intelligent sounding people adjust their critical intellectual thinking to fit inside the parameters of a narrative

sn said..

kiterboy said..Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.

The hotel where the security guard became infected is well known to me!!

I worked there when it was first built [as "THE ORCHARD HOTEL"]
My role was in the engineering department with a very large part of my job for 5 1/2 years being looking after the aircon system.
In the early days, this involved a lot of fine tuning, balancing of the air supply, modifying the impractical hybrid pneumatic + computerised control system so it would actually work, fault finding etc.
While the air con's control system has probably been upgraded from the original Honeywell pneumatic system to a more efficient and modern electronic system - I imagine that the basic ducting of supply and return air will still be the original design.

The filtered incoming air is pumped into each room and the used air [return air] then passes through a duct over the entry door and out into the corridor where it is drawn into the return air shafts near the lifts.
Normally, a percentage of this air is recycled so as to reduce the cost of cooling needed for the building.
With the hotel being used for quarantine - I would hope that the recycling of used air is blocked off and only fresh air supplied to the rooms.

So, in a nutshell - the air being supplied to a room that has an infectious person, passes down the corridor on the way to the return air shafts.
Anyone in that corridor is totally surrounded by potentially contaminated air and has no option but to breathe that air.
Even if the guards and staff are using masks and face shields - there would be no guarantee of safety!

Fixing the aircon would be one intelligent move but then so would hiring qualified biosecurity services instead of Uber drivers

No cases? All this disruption for not a single transmission for the most mutant freak dangerous strain?
Maybe
-his test was a false positive (the king wont admit that after all this circus)
-this was all a propaganda ploy
-this shai t is that transmitable? Not even his housemates sharing toilet, kitchen, door knobs, shower etc etc?

Went outside only yesterday, at woolies they are controlling sales of a large list of items. Partially agree w that as the general muppets bevahed poorly last Sunday.

It's really suss hey.

how sick was he but? just testing positive doesn't make you highly infectious, you have to be sneezing and coughing to really spread germs around.