As these are becoming more common for councils to raise revenue more readily and with the bonus of lowering employment, my Q is, how do they work? Are they "cheat-able?" I liked being able to rub off the old chalk mark and which later became an oil based chalky substance which metho and a rag took care of.

Some work by picking up the change in the magnetic field when the vehicle is above - same principal as magnetic anti-shipping mines.
De-gausseing of ships worked in WW2, so in theory it might work for cars.

Some parking bay sensors use light detection of some type - detecting the shadow of the vehicle parked over it [or something like that]

At least one brand uses both.

The one we looked at sent info wirelessly to Homebase.

Maybe just stop parking illegally and you wont have to worry about fines for breaking the law????

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lotofwind said..
Maybe just stop parking illegally and you wont have to worry about fines for breaking the law????

Lol, that's no fun.

Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

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lotofwind said..
Maybe just stop parking illegally and you wont have to worry about fines for breaking the law????

And stop being a law breaker by doing 1k over or cop the fine. So more cameras and parking sensors everywhere. If your not doing anything wrong you've nothing to worry about right.

Wasn't really chasing the high moral ground.

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Some work by picking up the change in the magnetic field when the vehicle is above - same principal as magnetic anti-shipping mines.
De-gausseing of ships worked in WW2, so in theory it might work for cars.

Some parking bay sensors use light detection of some type - detecting the shadow of the vehicle parked over it [or something like that]

At least one brand uses both.

The one we looked at sent info wirelessly to Homebase.

Thanks

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mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

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Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

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DARTH said..

Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

That and the sick people have no idea how long they are gonna be in there...
You park your car with just enough time to get to the appointment ('cause they're always late)

and the whole time you're waiting you're fretting. Not about the News the Dr has for you but that the slimy p***ks are gonna nick you as soon as the times up...

... and sure enough you get back 10 mins over to a fine because the Dr is running late to tell you that you have stage 4 cancer.


No one is parking at a hospital for a good time.

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mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking.

[anywhere around Perth]

The W.A. government gets a big chunk of the parking fee, followed by the local council.

Both hit the property owner with a substantial fee for each and every commercial parking bay.

The local councils even have to pay this levy to the State govt. for every free parking space within it's boundaries.

Yep - the owner gets a share, but nowhere as much as you think.

The levies raised by the governments from parking are [iirc] supposed to be devoted to public transport / CAT busses / bike paths etc.

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She [Lisa Scaffidi] said the State Government levy increase of $1.02 per bay, per day, for commercial parking providers had forced the Council to raise parking fees throughout the city in its 2009/10 Budget.
Parking operators had to pay a levy to the State Government for all parking spaces but this included streets without metered bays and those where parking was free.
This meant the cost would be higher than the State Government had announced.
She said collecting the tax on behalf of the State Government would increase the City's costs.
The levy for long stay bays was currently $212 per bay, per annum but from July 1 would rise to $586.
Short stay bays would increase from $183 to $555, while motor cycle bays would rise from $91.50 to $460.50.

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DARTH said..

Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

Maybe they should just have someone on the boom gate checking medical certificates, "Oh, ok you have terminal cancer, parking is free. Next, no, your's is benign, you have to pay."

Maybe I'm just a prick but I still don't get the expectation of entitlement and free parking. If you drive a car it comes with expenses, fuel, registration, insurances, tyres, servicing, parking. I don't imagine Ian Diffen Tyres routinely give discounts on tyres to sick people? So why parking?

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DARTH said..
Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

Life ain't about "fair".

In Switzerland old people in nursing homes get charged about $10 for each pill they have to take and $2 for it being served to them.

Is that right?? No it ain't but that is the way it is.

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Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7 Can understand
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Because its our tax paying funds that built the bloody thing in the first place.
Why do hospitals think they are entitled to charge a fee to the sick and injured 24/7
Can understand if its locate near train/bus station, useless tight arsed pricks parking there, but this one bloody isn't, so why charge even after business hours. Even the CBD's don't charge after business hours in most CBD's

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Chris6791 said..

DARTH said..

Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

Maybe they should just have someone on the boom gate checking medical certificates, "Oh, ok you have terminal cancer, parking is free. Next, no, your's is benign, you have to pay."

Maybe I'm just a prick but I still don't get the expectation of entitlement and free parking. If you drive a car it comes with expenses, fuel, registration, insurances, tyres, servicing, parking. I don't imagine Ian Diffen Tyres routinely give discounts on tyres to sick people? So why parking?

I usually agree with your opinions Chris6791, but in this case I believe hospitals should be exempt. Maybe have an inpatients and a visitors section and charge visitors. Sick people (in an emergency department case) should cop a break.

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Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7 Can understand
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Because its our tax paying funds that built the bloody thing in the first place.
Why do hospitals think they are entitled to charge a fee to the sick and injured 24/7
Can understand if its locate near train/bus station, useless tight arsed pricks parking there, but this one bloody isn't, so why charge even after business hours. Even the CBD's don't charge after business hours in most CBD's

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Chris6791 said..

DARTH said..

Chris6791 said..

mineral1 said..
Raises the point about charging for parking. Brand new hospital in Midland WA Saint John Of God.
Appointed a group to run Hospital, Allied Health I believe.
parking now chargeable 24/7
Can understand if the parking area is located near a business area/train/bus center, but this one is out on its own.
Why would a hospital built by the tax payers money, have to then think its OK to charge parking fees 24/7 for the sick.

Why do people think they're entitled to free parking?

Why do you want to charge sick people for parking, it's a captive audience and it's not fair.

Maybe they should just have someone on the boom gate checking medical certificates, "Oh, ok you have terminal cancer, parking is free. Next, no, your's is benign, you have to pay."

Maybe I'm just a prick but I still don't get the expectation of entitlement and free parking. If you drive a car it comes with expenses, fuel, registration, insurances, tyres, servicing, parking. I don't imagine Ian Diffen Tyres routinely give discounts on tyres to sick people? So why parking?

You are missing the point Chris, why charge after hours. And yes you are a sick prick if you think your tax dollars that built the hospital should then charge effing parking fees "after hours"

The argument that the govt built it with our tax dollars... why don't you extend it to public transport, School fees, water corp is govt owned, surely tap water should be free, and parking owned by local government should be free everywhere?

Midland hospital isn't in the middle of suburbia. It's in the middle of Midland, the central hub of the eastern suburbs. If you built a massive car park and made it free every second person that gets the train into the city would park there, fill it before 7am and catch the train into the city. Then there wouldn't be room for staff and patients. Paid parking keeps out the people not using the hospital.

The suggestion that Perth CBD doesn't charge for parking out of hours, please tell me where I can park safely overnight because that's something I'd be interested in.

Free parking, no, I don't expect it. But if you want to have a valid arguement over how expensive parking is, that's a different story. Transperth have the right idea, $2 a day and they scan number plates and compare them with smart riders so if you park at a train station and don't tag on a train they'll hit you with a ticket.

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Then there wouldn't be room for staff and patients. Paid parking keeps out the people not using the hospital.

Hospital workers don't get free parking either!

Our Daughter would walk a couple of kilometres from the hospital where she works at all hours to her car,
to save the exorbitant hourly parking fees. Already on a crap nurses salary being further eroded by parking fees.
One of her co-workers was followed home and murdered, but that's okay, nothing has changed its too good
a money spinner for the councils, government, and hospitals. The problem is funding people. Their should be
proper co-payment on all medical stuff, especially doctor visits and also hospital stays. Nothing is free!