Pugwash said..
What steps, if any, are you taking to safeguard your family and children?

Just looking for some guidance as to the correct thing to do... so far I have done nothing different to living as normal... I did try to buy some dunny paper, but it was all gone

Interesting to think about. I telecommute to the USA, so it would be easy for me to 100% isolate with very little impact on my life. But other members of my household are a school teacher, two uni students, and a high school student. I guess you couldn't get more exposure than that. I've got enough food for a couple of weeks, but probably useless since my family is out amongst it anyway. The whole point of stockpiling is to act like a hermit and it's just not going to happen with my family. At least we had some family fun deciding what to buy. Seems kids are relatively safe anyway.

It's been suggested you should try and get it as soon as possible, as since global infection is now inevitable you might as well get sick before the health system is overloaded. The alternate view is that if everyone took a lot of care, we might halt the spread long enough for the vaccine to be developed. So, I've just told my kids the usual wash hands, don't touch your face, avoid holding train poles and grabbing door handles when you don't need to. It's not really for their benefit, it's for the wider community. I think we're at the stage now where it's actually going to make an impact, there must be a couple hundred infected in each capital city by now, so if everyone was careful we can collectively slow the spread and protect the elderly.

As I've already said elsewhere, the real thing to be thoughtful of is elderly relatives and friends. It's about time I have a serious talk with my parents and figure out a strategy to protect them. Maybe they don't want to be holed up and will just take the risk, but considering the effort that my dad makes not to go near anyone with a cold, I figure he might be in for the full-hog isolation.

Maybe I'm a kook, I wouldn't mind if I get shown to be. But I'm generally pretty objective and the way the maths is panning out the risk seems pretty real to me. It's a bit like a frog in boiling water though, it's happening in such slow motion that no-one seems to think it's real. They only reason they all bought dunny paper was that they didn't want to run out after seeing the online photos of empty shelves.

Big Clive has the answer

2stubborn2quit said..
Here is the bit I don't understand.....
These clowns have stockpiled dunny paper but not canned food and dry goods.
So if they where to quarantine themselves for several weeks with no outside contact with no food, exactly what would they be pooping out?

Hang on....
It is a new diet...

How do you know what else they may or may not have stocked up on?
Oh yeah, you're another msm reliant.

2stubborn2quit said.....These clowns have stockpiled dunny paper but not canned food and dry goods.
So if they where to quarantine themselves for several weeks with no outside contact with no food, exactly what would they be pooping out?

Hopefully some of their stupidity?

I went to the two local supermarkets yesterday for the first time since this madness broke out. From what I could tell, dunny rolls were the only thing obvious thing cleaned out. Some other items like hand sanitisers and baked beans were low, but not "wiped".

Mr Milk said..
Pro tip :- If you run out of paper, keep a few rags handy. Wipe, wash and wring out ready for next use.

Pro tip #2:- you can ask for a discount if you promise to just use the tip

The motivation to limit the effects of the virus for family and self is, at one level , defensible.

Reality suggests that, while you can buy some time and opportunity, that time is very finite. Very soon, as a result of a highly connected and interdependent society which results in a broadscale lack of resilience across all sectors, you will be forced to re-engage and go looking for resources amongst the population and in the environment of potential scarcity.

Unless you hoard on an industrial scale and radically change your lifestyle, the chances of outlasting this challenge are pretty slim given the infection trends.

Collective cooperation has never, and will never, occur to mitigate the threat, simply because the same hard wired self interest that drives the toilet paper scarcity, is also the same self interest that drives the economy, which in turn drives choices that always hedge between what is action is actually required (think climate change)and maintaining your own little perception of entitlement.

Boardwalk said..
The motivation to limit the effects of the virus for family and self is, at one level , defensible.

Reality suggests that, while you can buy some time and opportunity, that time is very finite. Very soon, as a result of a highly connected and interdependent society which results in a broadscale lack of resilience across all sectors, you will be forced to re-engage and go looking for resources amongst the population and in the environment of potential scarcity.

Unless you hoard on an industrial scale and radically change your lifestyle, the chances of outlasting this challenge are pretty slim given the infection trends.

Collective cooperation has never, and will never, occur to mitigate the threat, simply because the same hard wired self interest that drives the toilet paper scarcity, is also the same self interest that drives the economy, which in turn drives choices that always hedge between what is action is actually required (think climate change)and maintaining your own little perception of entitlement.

Yes the psychology of a pandemic is getting pretty interesting.

We feel a threat.

And our basic instinct is to respond to that threat

But what can you do to protect yourself?

buy loo paper.

makes perfect sense.

Boardwalk said..
The motivation to limit the effects of the virus for family and self is, at one level , defensible.

Reality suggests that, while you can buy some time and opportunity, that time is very finite. Very soon, as a result of a highly connected and interdependent society which results in a broadscale lack of resilience across all sectors, you will be forced to re-engage and go looking for resources amongst the population and in the environment of potential scarcity.

Unless you hoard on an industrial scale and radically change your lifestyle, the chances of outlasting this challenge are pretty slim given the infection trends.

Collective cooperation has never, and will never, occur to mitigate the threat, simply because the same hard wired self interest that drives the toilet paper scarcity, is also the same self interest that drives the economy, which in turn drives choices that always hedge between what is action is actually required (think climate change)and maintaining your own little perception of entitlement.

So much this.
Too many self-interested people around who do not have any regards for others.

Boardwalk said..
The motivation to limit the effects of the virus for family and self is, at one level , defensible.

Reality suggests that, while you can buy some time and opportunity, that time is very finite. Very soon, as a result of a highly connected and interdependent society which results in a broadscale lack of resilience across all sectors, you will be forced to re-engage and go looking for resources amongst the population and in the environment of potential scarcity.

Unless you hoard on an industrial scale and radically change your lifestyle, the chances of outlasting this challenge are pretty slim given the infection trends.

Collective cooperation has never, and will never, occur to mitigate the threat, simply because the same hard wired self interest that drives the toilet paper scarcity, is also the same self interest that drives the economy, which in turn drives choices that always hedge between what is action is actually required (think climate change)and maintaining your own little perception of entitlement.

Spot on.

Actually it looks that speculation on the paper means serious business for some.
Helps to improve negative gearing for property owners or trim access profit for smart asses.

Ah, he's just salty that he missed out on the toilet paper at the shops and he's got nothing to wipe his tears with.

kiterboy said..Ah, he's just salty that he missed out on the toilet paper at the shops and he's got nothing to wipe his tears with.

Oh I am ,am I? LOL

Don't worry kiteboy, I'll survive the arsewipe free zone.

This is so funny. It's priceless.

holy guacamole said..

kiterboy said..Ah, he's just salty that he missed out on the toilet paper at the shops and he's got nothing to wipe his tears with.

Oh I am ,am I? LOL

Don't worry kiteboy, I'll survive the arsewipe free zone.

This is so funny. It's priceless.

Gee... this post reminds me of something...

psychojoe said..
Oop. I've got a turtle head poking out. I really need to score some paper before **** hits the bowl. C'mon guys, can you help a brother out

LOL. You're going to die bro. Sorry, no arse to soft paper contact for you tonight.

holy guacamole said..

Mark _australia said...Anyone who thinks dunny paper is important is a fkn retard.

Mark I wish to apologise unreservedly. Select, recent posts have convinced me your assessment is in fact, spot on.

Even a child can see....