cammd said..
One of my customers just brought his new baby into work, she is only a few months old, still got the baby blue eye's checking everything out and grinning at everyone. How anyone can think they are not the most precious things in the world beats me, if they don't deserve our protection nothing does. IMO

cammd said..
If you want to look a little deeper than the ABC you will realise the real coward in this conflict is the Iranian regime that is readily willing to sacrifice the Palestinian people in order to ensure there is no peace in the middle east. Those Abraham accords are not what Iran want, a chance of real peace.

Iran fund Hamas and direct Hamas to do their biding. Hamas attacked Israel 6 months ago when they crossed the border and raped and tortured and killed and kidnapped civilians who they targeted. They filmed it all and celebrated it, its a matter of public record.

Then they ran back to Gaza and hid underground, under kindergartens, under schools, under hospitals, its from these locations they engage the IDF. They don't stand between the population and the IDF, the Ukraine army stand out in front to protect the population, Hamas hide behind the population and use them (the children in your pictures) as shields. They still hold hostages (women and children included) that they will not release. Its a horrific situation, Hamas are responsible for the entire sh^t show.

Hamas conducted themselves in such a barbaric manner that it ensured Israel would retaliate hard. Why would you bring that wrath down upon your population on purpose. The entire world knew Israel would be left with no choice but to defend itself. Hamas provoked this on purpose. What is happening to the Palestinian people is a deliberate act of Hamas and its puppet master Iran.

BTW pretty sure there would be no clinics in Gaza where you could get an abortion. There is only one progressive democracy in the entire region that supports womens rights, LGBTQ rights etc etc, if you think they are the enemy you are squarely on the wrong side of this conflict.

cammd said..

I think you do need to look deeper to try an understand the world around you.
I agree it does need stop, Hamas need to surrender.

We all know if Hamas dropped their weapons and surrendered the war would be over, no more Palestinian children would be hurt.
We also know if Israel dropped their weapons every Jew in Israel, Men, Women and Children would be killed or forced to flee.

myscreenname said..

Hamas is gaining popularity everyday. Israel is as deluded as you are if they think, they will be safe after they end this genocide. I refuse to debate, or even take a guess, as to who is to blame in this conflict, It's way more complex than your simplistic narrative.

myscreenname said..



I think you are talking in semantics again. You did the same thing some posts back: baby vrs fetus. Arguing a pathetic and minority held viewpoint. This time it's conflict vrs genocide. There's a difference.

The conflict between Israel and Hamas will not be solved quickly. Even if the IDF kills every single person in Gaza and turns the entire territory into a parking lot, Hamas will continue to pose a bigger threat to Israel than it was pre 7 October.

What has to stop now is the genocide of the Gazan people. I don't understand why the Israelis don't demand an end to this insanity immediately.

myscreenname said..

Forced vasectomies on all males in the middle east might solve it in a generation.

cammd said..


Bit scary, I agree with you

FormulaNova said..
The way I see it:

Option A: Live with Israel and coexist peacefully.

Option B: Fight with Israel and live your life in fear.

myscreenname said..

Your moral compas needs calibration.

I don't need to look deeper, to understand the difference between right and wrong.

This genocide in Gaza is an absolute disgrace, and needs to stop, regardless of who you believe is to blame.

FormulaNova said..
Is that a Qld thing?

cammd said..






Failed abortion's are what created the conditions they suffer, you know missing limbs that have been ripped off etc, they survived a failed abortion and are left to die on average it takes them 32 minutes to pass, that's horrific.

What I am advocating for is basic human rights, like medical care, be afforded to these babies.

Spend a few minutes and listen and as he says if you support it then at least own it for what it is.

D3 said..
Banning abortion in the rest of the world will only increase the number of unsafe abortions in the developed nations. 73 million abortions will still happen, unfortunately they will then result in more women dieing, not saving lives