Mr Milk said..
Once a week for 40 years seems a bit on the low side for most modern males

I was trying to be fair to Pcdefender, he doesn't seem like that much of a wanker.

I asked a 40 year old woman tonight what her take on abortion was.

She said no one has ever asked me that and then added she has never really thought about it.

Probably concentrating on far more important things like the Eagles games or perhaps watching one of the music contestant shows that draw in enormous audiences if i am not wrong.

To her credit she did say give me time to think about it.

I will post her response after i see her next.

Abortion is also being used deliberately by some as a means of contraception which is just sick.

Abortion kill's babies, justify it anyway way you want but you cannot deny it and no argument in favour of the right to an abortion has been able to dispute that a human life is ended as the goal of the procedure.

below are some examples of outcomes from recent law reforms. Pretty disgusting

Every seven days a baby is born alive and left to die in Victoria and Queensland.
Between 2010 and 2020 there have been 724 babies born alive and left to die in those two states alone. In Australia we have no federal protection for babies born alive after an abortion.

In the first 6 months of South Australia's new abortion up to birth laws, 10 gestationally viable babies were killed after 23 weeks and until birth.8 of these babies were perfectly healthy and killed in non-emergency situations.Why were these South Australians not induced alive and given medical care?Why were they brutally killed in-utero and delivered stillborn?After 23 weeks a child is considered "viable". Indeed, the South Australian Perinatal Practice Guideline on Perinatal Care At The Threshold of Viability stipulate that "Decisions should be based on the best available evidence about the prognosis for infants born in situations similar to that currently present."Yet for unwanted babies slated for abortion, the medical team disregards "the best available evidence" about the child's prognosis and the human rights of that child are completely overridden.Allowing abortion up to birth in South Australia makes our laws the most extreme in the world and we must not stay silent while healthy babies are being needlessly killed.

psychojoe said..

Pcdefender said..
So you have a different opinion on the subject from D3 and he calls it out as being inflammatory etc.

Hundreds of millions around the world think abortion should be banned as they too are of the opinion there is little or no difference taking the life of a baby living in the mother or outside the mother.

There will ALWAYS be regrets till death about aborting a child.

Evidence in itself why it should be banned.

Dude. You know that a 12 year old girl was forced to carry her uncle's baby full term after he raped her because abortion is illegal in that country. I get your point, but have you really given the topic due consideration?

Raping a kid is about one of the worst things you could do but killing a baby is no better, literally pulling them apart and removing them piece by piece, its at least equally horrific.

Have you given that due consideration.

Hope this helps

Were any of the aborted from your loins? if not refer to Westoz's flow chart

elmo said..
Were any of the aborted from your loins? if not refer to Westoz's flow chart

Its pretty clear what happens to a community when men no longer take responsibility for their children, only a fool would recommend that outcome.

cammd said..

psychojoe said..

Pcdefender said..
So you have a different opinion on the subject from D3 and he calls it out as being inflammatory etc.

Hundreds of millions around the world think abortion should be banned as they too are of the opinion there is little or no difference taking the life of a baby living in the mother or outside the mother.

There will ALWAYS be regrets till death about aborting a child.

Evidence in itself why it should be banned.

Dude. You know that a 12 year old girl was forced to carry her uncle's baby full term after he raped her because abortion is illegal in that country. I get your point, but have you really given the topic due consideration?

Raping a kid is about one of the worst things you could do but killing a baby is no better, literally pulling them apart and removing them piece by piece, its at least equally horrific.

Have you given that due consideration.

Yes. Of course. Naturally I had a vasectomy. I've never caused an unwanted pregnancy. But as pregnancy number 18 in my family, I definitely should have been aborted.

elmo said..
When the keyboards a rockin, don't come a knockin

Too funny



Honestly i feel like an apprentice troll reading the absolute ****e you guys post in heavy weather sometimes

Im confused as hell as to what all you old retiree trolls were doing before the internet?! Every neighbourhood dog must have known them because all they could do is pick up dog **** put it in a bag leave it on a front porch ring the doorbell and light it on fire.... like......... actual?y thats just tiktok

serious question where were the seabreeze trolls in the 1960s and how exactly were they trolling??

I dont believe they knew about phone box phreaking the beige or orange boxes but they must have had an easier outlet.... maybe laurie needs to weigh in on that last paragraph...

D3 said..

cammd said
Its pretty clear what happens to a community when men no longer take responsibility for their children, only a fool would recommend that outcome.

I'm pretty sure I'm not quite understanding what you're saying here?
Are you saying that if abortion is banned, men will all of a sudden take responsibility for every pregnancy they cause?

The above argument that men have no say in abortion because they don't carry the baby during pregnancy absolves them of responsibility for deciding to keep the child or terminate it.

If you have no say over a matter then you cannot be responsible for it, that's just logic. So if you want to push that argument don't be surprised about unintended outcomes.

Its a flawed principle anyway, its akin to man telling his stay at home partner she has no say over financial decisions because he earns all the money. Its a BS argument that completely ignores the Father's rights and more importantly the child's right to live. Its just a ploy to shut down any opposition and the same principle doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny in any other situation.

cammd said..


If you have no say over a matter then you cannot be responsible for it, that's just logic. So if you want to push that argument don't be surprised about unintended outcomes.

Well, clearly that is not correct in the modern world. Try conceiving a baby and then escaping financial responsibility for it.

I still don't get what you're trying to say here

"
If you have no say over a matter then you cannot be responsible for it, that's just logic. So if you want to push that argument don't be surprised about unintended outcomes"

What outcomes are you suggesting will occur?

fangman said..
Whether or not abortion is legal does not stop the practice, merely it moves from a controlled surgical environment to a bathroom with coat hangers. Unfortunately the foetus is lost either way. Only the health of the mother is jeopardised by anti abortion law.

Since abortion to birth laws have come into place the number of late term abortions has increased so the health of those babies was jeopardised, they were killed. So not really correct to say only the Mothers health is affected is it.

And making something legal because it cannot be stopped entirely is a foolish argument, apply that principle to any other law. Should we lower the age consent, that will get rid pedophiles wont it.

psychojoe said..

cammd said..

D3 said..

cammd said
Its pretty clear what happens to a community when men no longer take responsibility for their children, only a fool would recommend that outcome.

I'm pretty sure I'm not quite understanding what you're saying here?
Are you saying that if abortion is banned, men will all of a sudden take responsibility for every pregnancy they cause?

The above argument that men have no say in abortion because they don't carry the baby during pregnancy absolves them of responsibility for deciding to keep the child or terminate it.

If you have no say over a matter then you cannot be responsible for it, that's just logic. So if you want to push that argument don't be surprised about unintended outcomes.

Its a flawed principle anyway, its akin to man telling his stay at home partner she has no say over financial decisions because he earns all the money. Its a BS argument that completely ignores the Father's rights and more importantly the child's right to live. Its just a ploy to shut down any opposition and the same principle doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny in any other situation.

I can agree with you on this point, it truly isn't just a women's rights issue
Now where's that $30,000 I suddenly need because every sperm is sacred.
Cough up!
What's your argument worth if you haven't the cash to back it up?

I have been coughing up for my kids and putting in my share via taxes for all those who cannot or will not. So my argument has the same worth as the next persons.

"I have been coughing up for my kids and putting in my share via taxes for all those who cannot or will not. So my argument has the same worth as the next persons."

That's where you made your mistake. You should have swallowed.