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busterwa
busterwa
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3782 posts
7 Jan 2012 9:43pm
Poss posted before but beneficial to watch Some interesting facts..
Didn't oops sunnies on know that hey?
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
7 Jan 2012 10:22pm
Emotive issue.Everything in moderation.

Exposure to sunlight in moderation,very healthy for every cell in the body.

Keeping entirely out of the sun is extremely unhealthy,just like over exposure

can lead to increase in skin cancer.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
8 Jan 2012 12:15am
Its not a discussion or debate PM Its an educational post about covering up and wearing sun screen.
I believe that the majority of users on this site may benefit for watching this.
Common PM This year i made a resolution not to be a **** and be more educational ,helpful to people. Rather than being SUBJECTIVE ****>
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
8 Jan 2012 6:20am
A plant based organic diet.

weiry
weiry
QLD
5396 posts
QLD, 5396 posts
8 Jan 2012 9:31am
Thanks buster, informative posts are always great. two mates a brother and myself have had a melanoma all have had a healthy diet even one of my mates run a health food shop for years and wouldn't drink alcohol and only drank rain water and it didn't stop him from getting a melanoma. up here in QLD if you work or play in the sun you MUST cover up. we still see youngins lying on the beach with no protection basically running the gauntlet, its all about education slip slop slap.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
8 Jan 2012 1:02pm
I am an unashemed fan of natural products that are backed up by results.

Personally I am getting results from these products by way of relief from arthiritic pain and immobility in my hand joints and gradual fading of ceratoses on my fore arms.

The face cream is having a definite beneficial effect on sun damage on my face.

This web site is worth a look and you will see that a medical professor in Melbourne is so impressed that he is conducting "double blind" trials on it and believes it could revolutionise wound management.

So make of it what you will and all I can say is "It works for me."

mcarthurskincare.com/?gclid=CJmqkO3jiq0CFWZNpgodWh2NlA
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
8 Jan 2012 2:14pm
Had my first mole scan last week. Was a bit scared what they might find but it's a big weight off my mind knowing there's nothing sus. Now just to keep an eye out for any changes.

Good post Buster, this is the kind of thing we all need to keep in mind when getting ready to hit the water.
weiry
weiry
QLD
5396 posts
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8 Jan 2012 5:46pm
cisco said...

I am an unashemed fan of natural products that are backed up by results.

Personally I am getting results from these products by way of relief from arthiritic pain and immobility in my hand joints and gradual fading of ceratoses on my fore arms.

The face cream is having a definite beneficial effect on sun damage on my face.

This web site is worth a look and you will see that a medical professor in Melbourne is so impressed that he is conducting "double blind" trials on it and believes it could revolutionise wound management.

So make of it what you will and all I can say is "It works for me."

mcarthurskincare.com/?gclid=CJmqkO3jiq0CFWZNpgodWh2NlA


that's great cisco if it works but lets keep on the topic and that is melanoma.
melanoma kills and kills quick when left. sorry but that's fact and if anyone that has a mole that's changed in size,shape, color, or maybe its a bit itchy should see a doctor. it doesn't have to be a mole it could be a dark spot that is changing.
if you have some spots of concern take a photo or get someone to take a photo if its on your back and check them every 6 months.
you don't have to live in fear just monitor your moles and watch your skin .


skincancer.about.com/od/skincancerbasics/ss/melanomaimages_2.htm
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
8 Jan 2012 4:27pm
Nice post cisco,best one yet. Going to get some for my mum.i hope you watched vid i posted.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
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9 Jan 2012 1:14am
weiry said...
[br that's great cisco if it works but lets keep on the topic and that is melanoma.
it doesn't have to be a mole it could be a dark spot that is changing.


Yeah mate. On topic. I had a ceratosis on my right arm (dry and white) that is now almost gone and a black spot on my left arm right next to a freckle that did concern me. It is now hard to detect where it was.

I reckon this stuff works. It is made from paw-paw which is reknown for it's curative effects.

Yes, melanoma is possibly the worst form of cancer as unchecked it seems to spread quicker than other forms and I can tell you that based on my sun exposure in my younger years, I am a prime candidate for it.

On a hot and sunny day about 5 minutes exposure is all I can stand. Young people sunbaking is insanity be they fair skinned or black as the ace of spades. Dark skinned people can be just as prone to it as others.

Nivea also make a very good product that from memory is called "Skin Repair" that is SPF 30. I have used it and it is great.

Tom McArthur's Natural Products are made in Childers about 50 k from where I live in Bundaberg but I have no affiliation with him. In actual fact I first heard about his products through this forum from can'tswim4**** and he is in Victoria.

So all I can really say is that it works for me and if you try it you are only punting about $60.

Another great product I am using on myself for knee, elbow and other joints pain and the relief thereof is Rapigel. It should be available from your local rural supplies store and it is intended for use on horses and dogs and specifcly not intended for use on humans.

If you ask about it the guy in the shop will probably tell you as he did me that he sells more of it to people to use on themselves than their animals.

Humans and animals are made of the same stuff after all.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
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9 Jan 2012 1:15am
petermac33 said...

Nice post cisco,best one yet. Going to get some for my mum.i hope you watched vid i posted.


I did.

pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
9 Jan 2012 4:27am
When I sail in Sydney, I'm one of the few that covers in the summer (hat & long sleeves), and does not cover (much) in the winter.

I've gotten laughed a few times, but lost a couple of acquaintances to melanoma when I was 20-something, so no shame in covering up.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Jan 2012 8:19am
I have a good friend who lost his eye to melanoma and now has a fold of skin where his eye used to be. He was lucky to survive and was a horrible time for him, his family and his mates.

I don't sunbake, plaster myself with Zinc - its the best IMO and try to keep in teh shade or cover up.

The sun's a ****
weiry
weiry
QLD
5396 posts
QLD, 5396 posts
9 Jan 2012 1:07pm
cisco said...

weiry said...
[br that's great cisco if it works but lets keep on the topic and that is melanoma.
it doesn't have to be a mole it could be a dark spot that is changing.


Yeah mate. On topic. I had a ceratosis on my right arm (dry and white) that is now almost gone and a black spot on my left arm right next to a freckle that did concern me. It is now hard to detect where it was.

I reckon this stuff works. It is made from paw-paw which is reknown for it's curative effects.

Yes, melanoma is possibly the worst form of cancer as unchecked it seems to spread quicker than other forms and I can tell you that based on my sun exposure in my younger years, I am a prime candidate for it.

On a hot and sunny day about 5 minutes exposure is all I can stand. Young people sunbaking is insanity be they fair skinned or black as the ace of spades. Dark skinned people can be just as prone to it as others.

Nivea also make a very good product that from memory is called "Skin Repair" that is SPF 30. I have used it and it is great.

Tom McArthur's Natural Products are made in Childers about 50 k from where I live in Bundaberg but I have no affiliation with him. In actual fact I first heard about his products through this forum from can'tswim4**** and he is in Victoria.

So all I can really say is that it works for me and if you try it you are only punting about $60.

Another great product I am using on myself for knee, elbow and other joints pain and the relief thereof is Rapigel. It should be available from your local rural supplies store and it is intended for use on horses and dogs and specifcly not intended for use on humans.

If you ask about it the guy in the shop will probably tell you as he did me that he sells more of it to people to use on themselves than their animals.

Humans and animals are made of the same stuff after all.


Sorry cisco not having a go mate but IMO its not helping "some" people mentioning treatment for liver spots, BCC or SCC sun cancers on a post that was about melanoma. cisco i just think that info may confuse "some" people about treatment for melanoma.
TQ
TQ
5 posts
TQ TQ
5 posts
5 Feb 2012 9:53am
Vigilance is so important. I got checked over by a Dermatologist in 1994 as I have a lot of moles. He picked up one on my lower back which was 0.4ml thick, (anything under 0.7ml normally hasn't spread.) He did the wider margin cut which left a decent size scar but it was all clear.

Ever since then I strip down to my undies every six months at the same Dermatologists office. (He's a wind and kite surfer, so there's plenty to talk about.)

Last month he noticed a mole on my upper back that had changed size and colour and suggested I get it removed and examined. Sure enough, he was right again, this time only 0.3ml deep. However, the wider excision has shown up some suspicious cells on the skin surface that he didn't notice before. Possibly early melanoma cells, which will either require 3 monthly checks or an even wider excision.

It is a sh!t of a disease, but one that you can stay on top of if you keep a close eye on your skin. A trained Dermatologist is the way to go, these people can spot the dangerous lesion early and know what to look for. How this guy can pick out a melanoma amoungst all of my dodgy looking moles is incredible.

Stay safe people.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
5 Feb 2012 3:24pm
Natural products and all that crap: the missus and I visited our old place in North Ryde and wondered about a couple of neighbors.

Learned the story about the next door guys: the man got melanoma somewhere on the face. His vain wife didn't want him to get minor surgery, because of the looks. She got him into natural healing, that sort of crap. Within 3 months, we're told, he was dead. Two kids too, we used to to babysit them. Real sad. Stupid vain cow.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
5 Feb 2012 5:54pm
pierrec45 said...

Natural products and all that crap: the missus and I visited our old place in North Ryde and wondered about a couple of neighbors.

Learned the story about the next door guys: the man got melanoma somewhere on the face. His vain wife didn't want him to get minor surgery, because of the looks. She got him into natural healing, that sort of crap. Within 3 months, we're told, he was dead. Two kids too, we used to to babysit them. Real sad. Stupid vain cow.



i can relate. ive had a few clients rave about the natural products (despite getting rashes from them) for suss moles. i found out one has since died and the other resorted to the knife as the mole kept growing and is now not sure if it was too late or not.
if it were me, and i expect one of my check ups it will be, im going for the knife and im gonna tell him not to muck around.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
5 Feb 2012 4:45pm
I've had 8 removed so far, but 2 of them turned out to be harmless. I get a thorough professional (as in Dermatologist) check every 6 months now (with the mole-scan type photos and computer matching software) and in between times my wife keeps a close eye on all the parts I can't see - this bit can have other side benefits too .
jetstream
jetstream
WA
57 posts
WA, 57 posts
20 Feb 2012 10:26am
Hey Cisco

You got it real wrong about natural treatments, Melanoma and creams and potions.
Melanoma's are seriously dangerous and usually need to be cut out by a doctor (if your lucky enough not to have had it spread to other parts of your body, brain, liver,lymph, bones lungs).
Trialling magical natural creams could very well cause you to die from it.

Time is the key, if you see one go to a specialist doctor ASAP!
They are being seen more in young adults these days and its not something restricted to old folk.


cheers






cisco said...

weiry said...
[br that's great cisco if it works but lets keep on the topic and that is melanoma.
it doesn't have to be a mole it could be a dark spot that is changing.


Yeah mate. On topic. I had a ceratosis on my right arm (dry and white) that is now almost gone and a black spot on my left arm right next to a freckle that did concern me. It is now hard to detect where it was.

I reckon this stuff works. It is made from paw-paw which is reknown for it's curative effects.

Yes, melanoma is possibly the worst form of cancer as unchecked it seems to spread quicker than other forms and I can tell you that based on my sun exposure in my younger years, I am a prime candidate for it.

On a hot and sunny day about 5 minutes exposure is all I can stand. Young people sunbaking is insanity be they fair skinned or black as the ace of spades. Dark skinned people can be just as prone to it as others.

Nivea also make a very good product that from memory is called "Skin Repair" that is SPF 30. I have used it and it is great.

Tom McArthur's Natural Products are made in Childers about 50 k from where I live in Bundaberg but I have no affiliation with him. In actual fact I first heard about his products through this forum from can'tswim4**** and he is in Victoria.

So all I can really say is that it works for me and if you try it you are only punting about $60.

Another great product I am using on myself for knee, elbow and other joints pain and the relief thereof is Rapigel. It should be available from your local rural supplies store and it is intended for use on horses and dogs and specifcly not intended for use on humans.

If you ask about it the guy in the shop will probably tell you as he did me that he sells more of it to people to use on themselves than their animals.

Humans and animals are made of the same stuff after all.


jwins
jwins
VIC
28 posts
VIC, 28 posts
20 Feb 2012 6:04pm
One of the keys to spotting melanoma early is "change." One should not feel re-assured because a mole has "gone away" with or without the use of some topical substance. Melanomas have been known to regress or "go away" (often the immune system seems to recognise them as being bad and tries to destroy them). In rare instances, the first presentation of a melanoma is a presumed metastasis to some other part of the body, and the original melanoma cannot be found; it is presumed to have regressed (probably destroyed by the immune system).

Sooooo, if you have a mole that you are concerned about, and it "goes away," that is a change, and not necessarily something to feel good about. You should definitely have the site checked by a dermatologist.
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
10 Mar 2012 11:23pm
Just watched this movie, Cancer The Forbidden Cures. Very thought provoking and confirms much of what I have been reading

pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
11 Mar 2012 12:31am
japie said...

Just watched this movie, Cancer The Forbidden Cures. Very thought provoking and confirms much of what I have been reading

I'm stuffed if I'm gonna spend 1h (did I see right???) for an infomercial.

Summarize what you've been reading, which confirms the Tube, which corresponds to your readings please?
stuk
stuk
NSW
894 posts
NSW, 894 posts
11 Mar 2012 7:41am
dinsdale said...

I've had 8 removed so far, but 2 of them turned out to be harmless. I get a thorough professional (as in Dermatologist) check every 6 months now (with the mole-scan type photos and computer matching software) and in between times my wife keeps a close eye on all the parts I can't see - this bit can have other side benefits too .



I just went to one of these skin cancer clinics. No joke it was a 5 minute once over and a yep your alright, $75 thanks for coming.

Im very dubious of the checkup I was given next time I think I'll go to a larger city based specialist just for the peace of mind.
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
229 posts
229 posts
11 Mar 2012 12:01pm
Might be an idea to get loved one to keep on eye on your skin (it's cheaper)
sn
sn
WA
2775 posts
sn sn
WA, 2775 posts
11 Mar 2012 12:16pm
regular digital cameras photos, with a ruler next to the suspect mole or spot makes it easy to monitor for any changes, and if you know what you are doing (unlike me) you could even superimpose one photo over the other for a close comparison.

then take your digital photo album along to your doc for checking.

how hard can it be?
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
11 Mar 2012 9:24pm
pierrec45 said...

japie said...

Just watched this movie, Cancer The Forbidden Cures. Very thought provoking and confirms much of what I have been reading

I'm stuffed if I'm gonna spend 1h (did I see right???) for an infomercial.

Summarize what you've been reading, which confirms the Tube, which corresponds to your readings please?



No
pi22api22a
pi22api22a
WA
150 posts
WA, 150 posts
12 Mar 2012 7:44pm
Hey all,,

Nearly 2 months since I've been able to go for a kite.

Wife spotted a sus looking black mole on my lower back in Jan this year and booked me in to doc (without asking me, lol). Went in for checkup and he didnt like the look of it, got it cut out within a week. Wife also got one removed from her neck. Hurt like hell, but glad it was gone....

Then got a phone call, wife is ok but yours is a melanoma...

Went back in asap, this time it hurt like f#ck, took a section out of me about 10cm by 4cm and 2cm deep.. Still in pain, but I was lucky, few more weeks and it could have spread. Doc told me to rest up and go buy a bottle of french champagne, he'd just saved my life...

Keep covered up, and get checked regularly... and listen to ya missus..

Dave
the gibbo
the gibbo
WA
776 posts
WA, 776 posts
12 Mar 2012 8:39pm
Nice post Buster, sad but true, must get that check cheers
wolfie
wolfie
3 posts
3 posts
15 Mar 2012 9:22am
yep put a mate of mine in the ground last year he died two weeks before his 50th we both as kids run around in just boardies he was a ranga but it don't matter as another mate got one too but caught it early enough and I go to mole map skin care every six months had two removed but where nothing , its too sad going to funerals and as I enjoy kiting you are in the sun I also work out doors so need to keep an eye on it , if in doubt go to the doc best and first not wait and see !!!
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
15 Mar 2012 1:15pm
wodgina6722 said...

Might be an idea to get loved one to keep on eye on your skin (it's cheaper)

Better yet, multiple GFs, or mistresses.
Multiple partners may spot different things.
Worth a shot...
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