evening breezers
after yet another one of my belongings being stolen from my house this evening just after the southerly hit, I am in the market for a small light weight accurate tracking device.

My house and work Ute and toolboxes get broken into regularly as I live in between two large commissions flat complexes. The junkies commute through the dark streets on windy nights breaking into whatever they please.
The police don't do anything even when I physically catch the thieves.
Tonight I had an expensive jackhammer / rotary drill and associated bits stolen. ($2k to replace).
I've got sensor lights and fake cameras and this isn't deterring them.

I'm looking to place some small trackers in some old power tools I will hollow out.
Please recommend something that you've had experience with!

A remotely controlled grenade would serve two purposes.

El cheapo android phone.

Set it up so you can track it.

Plenty of GPS locator devises out there

Real cameras don't deter. Fake ones are a complete waste of money.

Catch the crook again then call the cops and tell them you're got burglars in your house and you're going to shoot them.

Or toe them up and bring out the gimp.

Cops too busy manning speed cameras?

Call Centre Link and tell them you have jobs for them.

Thatll keep them far far away from you.

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Kamikuza said..
Catch the crook again then call the cops and tell them you're got burglars in your house and you're going to shoot them.

Or toe them up and bring out the gimp.

Cops too busy manning speed cameras?

Cops to lazy to write the correct reports to show to the local council so that more street lights and patrols are done in the area.
I caught a young guy in my yard mid last year and they just let him go because he was "drunk"
No charges nothing.
I posted a photo of his head on the internet to find out who he was and then the police threatened to arrest me after his parents phoned the cop shop.
The whole system is a joke and the junkies know it.

Here is an idea...

metro.co.uk/2019/08/01/electrician-gets-revenge-thieves-1000-volt-electric-shock-10498809/

Catch a kid in the backyard - at most he's trespassing (though we know why he's there). The politicians let him go, they're the ones that write legislation giving them so many free kicks.

FTP should be referring to politicians, not police

Sorry but unless you move into an isolated place or a fortress there are plenty of lowlifes around ready to take what is yours knowing the worst that can happen is they get a warm bed and 3 feeds a day.

The ebay wireless motion sensors with alarms are a cheap option depending how far between them either have the alarm chime near you or leave near the sensor and hope the piercing noise will send them on their way.

crime on the goldcoast appears to have picked up a lot over the last 12 months or so too. It seems to link in with a drop off in building/construction & tradie related jobs The last time it did this was when the wheels fell off around 2008

My neighbors have two german Shepards. They lock the gate. Not for their safety, but for the public!. I cant imagine them ever having a break in. And it helps with us as well. Anyone loitering out the front gets a bark. But even small dogs deter. What about a dog and keep yr car in yard. ? When I lived in Darwin the itinerants crossed the road to walk past my house. Didnt have to encourage my dog or anything. She didn't like the smell. Always left door open as she was scary. Now I have a lap dog but would still yap I reckon and make them try an easier target

I feel for you ok .
Have been in similar situations .
When it last happened they were trying to get into the house while we were all at home rang cops there were at our place within two minutes as they we're patrolling looking for these guys & they told me they can't do anything unless they catch them red handed they eventually did & it was a father and son team that got done for 147 counts of break & enter .
Unfortunately I think you have to wait until they cause so many problems that orders come from the top to do something about it .
Because if they got charged for 147 I reckon they would have 10 times more they never got charged for

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ok said.. Cops to lazy to write the correct reports to show to the local council so that more street lights and patrols are done in the area.
I caught a young guy in my yard mid last year and they just let him go because he was "drunk"
No charges nothing.
I posted a photo of his head on the internet to find out who he was and then the police threatened to arrest me after his parents phoned the cop shop.
The whole system is a joke and the junkies know it.

Maybe as they know it would not result in a conviction so time spent better elsewhere? If you charge people knowing it does not satisfy prima facie = good way to get sacked. We don't know enough of the story to say..... but they did.
Maybe the bloke was under 18 (?) and they have to let him go the first time (if your laws are same as ours here)

How much petitioning have you and the other locals done to the council - its not all the cops' job?

Last line very true though

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actiomax said..
I feel for you ok .
Have been in similar situations .
When it last happened they were trying to get into the house while we were all at home rang cops there were at our place within two minutes as they we're patrolling looking for these guys & they told me they can't do anything unless they catch them red handed they eventually did & it was a father and son team that got done for 147 counts of break & enter .
Unfortunately I think you have to wait until they cause so many problems that orders come from the top to do something about it .
Because if they got charged for 147 I reckon they would have 10 times more they never got charged for

There's a good example.

Cops knew that a couple of blokes were active doing breaks in your suburb but not when. They really wanted to catch them but there is not enough cops to stick a car in your suburb 24/7 sitting there doing nothing and just hoping......

You rang as people were trying to actually break in (good idea) and the cops raced around and caught them, or were close. Or somebody else rang at the time.... and this time it worked and they got charged.......... charging them for 147 serious offences! Good onya cops.

But to do that, maybe the cops had to leave the incident that "ok" is talking about - where a drunk young bloke had wandered into his yard (albeit annoying, every chance it is not the guy responsible for all the sh!t going on in his street).

So you are happy, the cops did the right thing because they know what is going on, but at the same time all the people in "ok" street thinks the cops did nothing.

There's a bigger picture.

Its always interesting that people will trust their sparky and not tell him his job or their doc, or the plumber- but they will assert that cops have no idea and "did nothing"

If there is limited resources do you send two blokes in a car to the drunk young fella in the yard, or the deadset attempted break in with the guys you know are dangerous and/or responsible for 147 x serious stuff?

Coroners court "oh yeah we chose not to go to the one where the guys for 147 home invasions might be there, as there was this drunk kid in a yard, and we might have got a whine from the householder...." "Sorry they killed a guy who tried to defend his home"

Maybe those whose most difficult decision in the day is making decisions about what coloured widget or which house to go to next to quote , should stick to it.

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Mark _australia said..

actiomax said..
I feel for you ok .
Have been in similar situations .
When it last happened they were trying to get into the house while we were all at home rang cops there were at our place within two minutes as they we're patrolling looking for these guys & they told me they can't do anything unless they catch them red handed they eventually did & it was a father and son team that got done for 147 counts of break & enter .
Unfortunately I think you have to wait until they cause so many problems that orders come from the top to do something about it .
Because if they got charged for 147 I reckon they would have 10 times more they never got charged for

There's a good example.

Cops knew that a couple of blokes were active doing breaks in your suburb but not when. They really wanted to catch them but there is not enough cops to stick a car in your suburb 24/7 sitting there doing nothing and just hoping......

You rang as people were trying to actually break in (good idea) and the cops raced around and caught them, or were close. Or somebody else rang at the time.... and this time it worked and they got charged.......... charging them for 147 serious offences! Good onya cops.

But to do that, maybe the cops had to leave the incident that "ok" is talking about - where a drunk young bloke had wandered into his yard (albeit annoying, every chance it is not the guy responsible for all the sh!t going on in his street).

So you are happy, the cops did the right thing because they know what is going on, but at the same time all the people in "ok" street thinks the cops did nothing.

There's a bigger picture.

Its always interesting that people will trust their sparky and not tell him his job or their doc, or the plumber- but they will assert that cops have no idea and "did nothing"

If there is limited resources do you send two blokes in a car to the drunk young fella in the yard, or the deadset attempted break in with the guys you know are dangerous and/or responsible for 147 x serious stuff?

Coroners court "oh yeah we chose not to go to the one where the guys for 147 home invasions might be there, as there was this drunk kid in a yard, and we might have got a whine from the householder...." "Sorry they killed a guy who tried to defend his home"

Maybe those whose most difficult decision in the day is making decisions about what coloured widget or which house to go to next to quote , should stick to it.

Have you had a couple to drink or what? In the past 18 months I have had the following incidents happen.
Two female neighbours come and get me as there was a junkie in there back yard trying to break in. The cops come grab him take a knife off him give him a court attendance notice. That junkie then tried to physically attack me and we were both given move on orders. I was threatened to be arrested if i didnt leave the area I was trying to prevent him coming back to.

Another time on a cold windy rainy night again. Two aboriginals dressed all in black riding around my block in the dark and rain. I leave my house follow them discretely on foot for a few blocks. Film them going in and out of houses and stashing the goods. The police finally show up and want me to show them where theyve stashed the stolen goods instead of going after them. They ride off into the night with no ramifications.

Few weeks later I was sitting in my car waiting for the rain to stop and a young rough looking kid checks to see if my car door is open whilst im sitting in it, in the dark. I follow him down to his house. Cops dont even bother showing up.

Next person I caught was the young bloke i mentioned above. I caught him halfway through my locked gate as my 2 dogs were doing there job. I dragged him out of my house put him on the ground when a neighbour who was his school teacher came out and said he is known theif and ratbag the kid decided to start screaming that i flogged him. I didnt touch him, he then abused the cops saying they were being too rough and got away with a free lift home.

A few weeks ago my good friends car was stolen from the beach where the mentioned before commission flats have ocean views. 1 from three cars stolen that week.
He had all his expensive work gear in the car at the time. Police showed up and told us to go and check the commission flats as the POLICE weren't ALLOWED to due social rules and regulations.

I could go on all night with the amount of **** we get knocked off from building sites and even the damage they cause to get in to get nothing.
On monday night when my jackhammer got stolen another tradesmen a suburb away got his whole work truck and tools stolen.

My sister in law is a police officer in Sydney shes rang the duty officers in the station here and explained that they are doing a **** job.THE POST WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT GPS TRACKERS I CAN USE TO CATCH THE GUYS, GO TO THERE HOUSE GET MY **** BACK AND THEN RING THE POLICE AND ASK THEM TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE SOCIAL / POLITICAL CLIMATE OR WHOS DOING WHAT JOB WRONG.IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND A TRACKER THAT WORKS IT WOULD BE GREAT !

In my case the cops we're actively patrolling to catch these blokes .
Half of my street had the front doors open.
The cops said it's there trick they find a way in & open front door so they have two escape routes & only steal one thing at a time so you don't realise you have actually been robbed you think you just have lost something but the place is cased for the break in were they take everything .
I think they were trying to catch them more for the prevention of violence than any material theft.
I'm interested in the gps tracker as well
kids scooters & bikes can go from the backyard in the middle of the day so I worry about my tools at night .

It's ok I think the problem has been solved, I heard on abc radio reports that Ice may become legal so that might bring the price down and solve all the crime problems.

OK - you did call the thread "......lazy police"

......not "what GPS tracker"

I agreed with you the system is farked but the cops have to work within it.

Anyway, old phone is the go.

Ebay has a few options. This may work?
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-3G-4G-GPS-GPRS-Tracker-Magnetic-Locator-Car-Childs-Elder-Tracking-Device-AU/293192140307?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item44439d0613:g:qksAAOSwwAldSGr9

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ok said..

Mark _australia said..

actiomax said..
I feel for you ok .
Have been in similar situations .
When it last happened they were trying to get into the house while we were all at home rang cops there were at our place within two minutes as they we're patrolling looking for these guys & they told me they can't do anything unless they catch them red handed they eventually did & it was a father and son team that got done for 147 counts of break & enter .
Unfortunately I think you have to wait until they cause so many problems that orders come from the top to do something about it .
Because if they got charged for 147 I reckon they would have 10 times more they never got charged for

There's a good example.

Cops knew that a couple of blokes were active doing breaks in your suburb but not when. They really wanted to catch them but there is not enough cops to stick a car in your suburb 24/7 sitting there doing nothing and just hoping......

You rang as people were trying to actually break in (good idea) and the cops raced around and caught them, or were close. Or somebody else rang at the time.... and this time it worked and they got charged.......... charging them for 147 serious offences! Good onya cops.

But to do that, maybe the cops had to leave the incident that "ok" is talking about - where a drunk young bloke had wandered into his yard (albeit annoying, every chance it is not the guy responsible for all the sh!t going on in his street).

So you are happy, the cops did the right thing because they know what is going on, but at the same time all the people in "ok" street thinks the cops did nothing.

There's a bigger picture.

Its always interesting that people will trust their sparky and not tell him his job or their doc, or the plumber- but they will assert that cops have no idea and "did nothing"

If there is limited resources do you send two blokes in a car to the drunk young fella in the yard, or the deadset attempted break in with the guys you know are dangerous and/or responsible for 147 x serious stuff?

Coroners court "oh yeah we chose not to go to the one where the guys for 147 home invasions might be there, as there was this drunk kid in a yard, and we might have got a whine from the householder...." "Sorry they killed a guy who tried to defend his home"

Maybe those whose most difficult decision in the day is making decisions about what coloured widget or which house to go to next to quote , should stick to it.

Have you had a couple to drink or what? In the past 18 months I have had the following incidents happen.
Two female neighbours come and get me as there was a junkie in there back yard trying to break in. The cops come grab him take a knife off him give him a court attendance notice. That junkie then tried to physically attack me and we were both given move on orders. I was threatened to be arrested if i didnt leave the area I was trying to prevent him coming back to.

Another time on a cold windy rainy night again. Two aboriginals dressed all in black riding around my block in the dark and rain. I leave my house follow them discretely on foot for a few blocks. Film them going in and out of houses and stashing the goods. The police finally show up and want me to show them where theyve stashed the stolen goods instead of going after them. They ride off into the night with no ramifications.

Few weeks later I was sitting in my car waiting for the rain to stop and a young rough looking kid checks to see if my car door is open whilst im sitting in it, in the dark. I follow him down to his house. Cops dont even bother showing up.

Next person I caught was the young bloke i mentioned above. I caught him halfway through my locked gate as my 2 dogs were doing there job. I dragged him out of my house put him on the ground when a neighbour who was his school teacher came out and said he is known theif and ratbag the kid decided to start screaming that i flogged him. I didnt touch him, he then abused the cops saying they were being too rough and got away with a free lift home.

A few weeks ago my good friends car was stolen from the beach where the mentioned before commission flats have ocean views. 1 from three cars stolen that week.
He had all his expensive work gear in the car at the time. Police showed up and told us to go and check the commission flats as the POLICE weren't ALLOWED to due social rules and regulations.

I could go on all night with the amount of **** we get knocked off from building sites and even the damage they cause to get in to get nothing.
On monday night when my jackhammer got stolen another tradesmen a suburb away got his whole work truck and tools stolen.

My sister in law is a police officer in Sydney shes rang the duty officers in the station here and explained that they are doing a **** job.THE POST WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT GPS TRACKERS I CAN USE TO CATCH THE GUYS, GO TO THERE HOUSE GET MY **** BACK AND THEN RING THE POLICE AND ASK THEM TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE SOCIAL / POLITICAL CLIMATE OR WHOS DOING WHAT JOB WRONG.IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND A TRACKER THAT WORKS IT WOULD BE GREAT !

Wow !
You need to move !

^^^^ yeah but some people can't move so what we really need is a system that works.

Its like training a dog....... but we let it off the first few times and hope soothing words hope, then wonder why its uncontrollable as a adult.

Not rocket science.

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Imax1 said..

ok said..

Mark _australia said..

actiomax said..
I feel for you ok .
Have been in similar situations .
When it last happened they were trying to get into the house while we were all at home rang cops there were at our place within two minutes as they we're patrolling looking for these guys & they told me they can't do anything unless they catch them red handed they eventually did & it was a father and son team that got done for 147 counts of break & enter .
Unfortunately I think you have to wait until they cause so many problems that orders come from the top to do something about it .
Because if they got charged for 147 I reckon they would have 10 times more they never got charged for

There's a good example.

Cops knew that a couple of blokes were active doing breaks in your suburb but not when. They really wanted to catch them but there is not enough cops to stick a car in your suburb 24/7 sitting there doing nothing and just hoping......

You rang as people were trying to actually break in (good idea) and the cops raced around and caught them, or were close. Or somebody else rang at the time.... and this time it worked and they got charged.......... charging them for 147 serious offences! Good onya cops.

But to do that, maybe the cops had to leave the incident that "ok" is talking about - where a drunk young bloke had wandered into his yard (albeit annoying, every chance it is not the guy responsible for all the sh!t going on in his street).

So you are happy, the cops did the right thing because they know what is going on, but at the same time all the people in "ok" street thinks the cops did nothing.

There's a bigger picture.

Its always interesting that people will trust their sparky and not tell him his job or their doc, or the plumber- but they will assert that cops have no idea and "did nothing"

If there is limited resources do you send two blokes in a car to the drunk young fella in the yard, or the deadset attempted break in with the guys you know are dangerous and/or responsible for 147 x serious stuff?

Coroners court "oh yeah we chose not to go to the one where the guys for 147 home invasions might be there, as there was this drunk kid in a yard, and we might have got a whine from the householder...." "Sorry they killed a guy who tried to defend his home"

Maybe those whose most difficult decision in the day is making decisions about what coloured widget or which house to go to next to quote , should stick to it.

Have you had a couple to drink or what? In the past 18 months I have had the following incidents happen.
Two female neighbours come and get me as there was a junkie in there back yard trying to break in. The cops come grab him take a knife off him give him a court attendance notice. That junkie then tried to physically attack me and we were both given move on orders. I was threatened to be arrested if i didnt leave the area I was trying to prevent him coming back to.

Another time on a cold windy rainy night again. Two aboriginals dressed all in black riding around my block in the dark and rain. I leave my house follow them discretely on foot for a few blocks. Film them going in and out of houses and stashing the goods. The police finally show up and want me to show them where theyve stashed the stolen goods instead of going after them. They ride off into the night with no ramifications.

Few weeks later I was sitting in my car waiting for the rain to stop and a young rough looking kid checks to see if my car door is open whilst im sitting in it, in the dark. I follow him down to his house. Cops dont even bother showing up.

Next person I caught was the young bloke i mentioned above. I caught him halfway through my locked gate as my 2 dogs were doing there job. I dragged him out of my house put him on the ground when a neighbour who was his school teacher came out and said he is known theif and ratbag the kid decided to start screaming that i flogged him. I didnt touch him, he then abused the cops saying they were being too rough and got away with a free lift home.

A few weeks ago my good friends car was stolen from the beach where the mentioned before commission flats have ocean views. 1 from three cars stolen that week.
He had all his expensive work gear in the car at the time. Police showed up and told us to go and check the commission flats as the POLICE weren't ALLOWED to due social rules and regulations.

I could go on all night with the amount of **** we get knocked off from building sites and even the damage they cause to get in to get nothing.
On monday night when my jackhammer got stolen another tradesmen a suburb away got his whole work truck and tools stolen.

My sister in law is a police officer in Sydney shes rang the duty officers in the station here and explained that they are doing a **** job.THE POST WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT GPS TRACKERS I CAN USE TO CATCH THE GUYS, GO TO THERE HOUSE GET MY **** BACK AND THEN RING THE POLICE AND ASK THEM TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE SOCIAL / POLITICAL CLIMATE OR WHOS DOING WHAT JOB WRONG.IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND A TRACKER THAT WORKS IT WOULD BE GREAT !

Wow !
You need to move !

Try and guess the suburb in Newcastle NSW it is in. I dont want to move. Id like to catch a few and deal with them. We did it years ago at the local marina and it worked..

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Mark _australia said..

Its like training a dog....... but we let it off the first few times and hope soothing words hope,

I think you are right ok, he has had a few too many beers again, lol hiccup
hope soothing words hope ??? lol

Ive ordered two small trackers. Thanks for your input BJW.Ill post up the results if any.

1. Cameras are useless as they all wear hoddies, and the 5 o don't do anything w/ you footage even if their face is right up front.
2.- Only trackers are GPS, but then the battery runs out + you need to have them open to the satellite and they only track accurately to 10m.

So you need to put up gates to deter.
The most effective deterrent is, roll drums... a rottweiler.

She will keep your sh!t safe.

I leave all my kite gear in the back of my ute parked out on the street.
Never had anything stolen yet. The trick is.....
I put a heap of windsurfing gear that you can get free from the tip or the gutter on hard rubbish day, on top of my kite gear..... no one wants to touch it.

tracker tile?? about the same size as a dog's I.D. tag

my bosses dog tends to do a runner fairly regularly, boss put one of these on its collar - made finding the escapee a lot easier!