So, just to recap;

1) msn states he has a cheap chinese garden tool thingy that won't run.
2) he queries if a new carby is the answer
3) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem, much better to try something else
4) he queries if buying a new cheap chinese carby is worth trying given they are cheaper than any of the suggested other fixing methods
5) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem
6) he ignores the advice and buys one anyway
7) this fixes the issue

... Everyone now tells him the cheap ones are rubbish and he should swap all the parts from the cheap new one that works with the parts from the cheap old one that doesn't work, because this will somehow make it better-er...

....mmmmm, sometimes I think the internet is a tough place to get valuable advice....

I vote msn as seabreeze.com.au's new resident carburetor expert, taking over the mantle from remery, whose knowledge passed down from his father's father (which always seemed to include using a lot of vasaline) now appears to be redundant.

Sometimes I use incognito mode to see posts that are otherwise filtered from me. I can't even reply to them, so I will make an exception for Crack-and-talk in this case:

"
So, just to recap;

1) msn states he has a cheap chinese garden tool thingy that won't run.
2) he queries if a new carby is the answer
3) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem, much better to try something else
4) he queries if buying a new cheap chinese carby is worth trying given they are cheaper than any of the suggested other fixing methods
5) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem
6) he ignores the advice and buys one anyway
7) this fixes the issue

... Everyone now tells him the cheap ones are rubbish and he should swap all the parts from the cheap new one that works with the parts from the cheap old one that doesn't work, because this will somehow make it better-er...

....mmmmm, sometimes I think the internet is a tough place to get valuable advice....

"

Which just goes to show that some people have very poor comprehension skills. Either that or I got a very different understanding of everyones replies. Oh well, I guess it at least tells me that hiding posts is a useful feature. Crack-and-talk should use it to filter out me too..

FormulaNova said..

They all seem to have some incredibly complex gasket between the bits and I wonder if you can even get replacement ones. My guess is that you can if it has been copied exactly from the OEM part, but otherwise not. But then it becomes a question of whether you replace a $5 gasket to chase a problem in a $10 carby when it may or may not fix the problem.

Head gasket and two replacement primer bulbs included in package.

I thought these things are disposable as they are priced at under $200, So when last two broke I bought new ones. Didn't expect all parts are freely available. The same four-in-ones are sold under different brand names. Aldi sells one. The engines are the same from what I understand.

FormulaNova said..

A head gasket or the mounting 'intake' gasket?

Part number QRYG1468BEANHEAD453

Carantoc said..
So, just to recap;

1) msn states he has a cheap chinese garden tool thingy that won't run.
2) he queries if a new carby is the answer
3) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem, much better to try something else
4) he queries if buying a new cheap chinese carby is worth trying given they are cheaper than any of the suggested other fixing methods
5) everyone tells him no, won't work, can't work, probably ain't even the problem
6) he ignores the advice and buys one anyway
7) this fixes the issue

... Everyone now tells him the cheap ones are rubbish and he should swap all the parts from the cheap new one that works with the parts from the cheap old one that doesn't work, because this will somehow make it better-er...

....mmmmm, sometimes I think the internet is a tough place to get valuable advice....

I vote msn as seabreeze.com.au's new resident carburetor expert, taking over the mantle from remery, whose knowledge passed down from his father's father (which always seemed to include using a lot of vasaline) now appears to be redundant.

I was workin on carbies when you was sh1ttin yella.

FormulaNova said..
Is a beanhead the part between you and crack-and-talk?

Ohh would ya look at that.

The posts between msn and Carantoc comprise (in no particular order, but in order)
a) FormulaNova
b) remery

....so we take that as a confirmed "yes" then ?

Mark - I can't comment on MSNs carb, but my mower carb doesn't have mixture or even idle screws. Set out of the box for the purpose, I guess?

In my case, it was the carb for my old Briggs & Stratton mower. Very, very clear differences in quality between the original and the cheap replacement - even based on the pics when I bought it, so I didn't expect much. And wasn't let down. Cheap one failed in around 12 months vs 15+ years for the original. Been going great since I mixed the parts to make a 'good-ish' one. Mower itself is 20 years old, with some nice rust here and there due to poor maintenance, so wasn't really worth the $150 for a new OEM carb.
Cheap can be fine, as long as your expectations are appropriate.

If/when MSNs carb fails, he can replace the carb 20 times before it's more than buying a whole new unit.

damned67 said..

The cheap primer bulbs like to harden and crack too....

That's why Temu give you two.

I'm currently restoring a 1970's mower with a Kirby/Tecumseh engine. The rubber primer bulb is perished but NOS ones are still available. The fuel tank is full of rust and presumably the carby as well

damned67 said..
In my case, it was the carb for my old Briggs & Stratton mower. Very, very clear differences in quality between the original and the cheap replacement - even based on the pics when I bought it, so I didn't expect much. And wasn't let down. Cheap one failed in around 12 months vs 15+ years for the original. Been going great since I mixed the parts to make a 'good-ish' one. Mower itself is 20 years old, with some nice rust here and there due to poor maintenance, so wasn't really worth the $150 for a new OEM carb.
Cheap can be fine, as long as your expectations are appropriate.

If/when MSNs carb fails, he can replace the carb 20 times before it's more than buying a whole new unit.

Or he could repair it.

What were the fuel lines etc like on the Seagull? I assume still in good nick?
How did you clean the carb?

Back when I was regularly 'playing' with cars, whenever I'd rebuild a carb, I'd take it to work and drop the parts in a sonicator, after a good degrease.
Which reminds me, my Dominator carb needs a rebuild re: gaskets and clean.

remery said..
.... I have serious doubts a Temu carby would still work after 40 years. But maybe best check with Carantoc.

I know remery likes outsource his thinking, but alas, Carantoc has no idea of the serious or otherwise of remery's own doubts about Temu carbys. The only person who can elaborate on remery's own emotions is remery.

I'm no expert but.. I doubt a Temu carby will be still work after 40 years. But I also doubt that the cheap $200 pole pruner will work either. If msn had started this thread with "I have a classic outboard renown for their durability and longevity that has lasted 40 years and is likely to last 40 more, but has trouble idling smoothly, should I try a $8.67 carby from Temu as a permanent replacement"... then we might be a different point in the conversation here.

But he didn't. So we aren't.

Then again if your outboard has been broken for 40 years, you got it spluttering for 2 minutes using plenty of aerosol support straight into the carby, and then quickly flogged it on to some unsuspecting sucker, maybe a $8.67 carby would have been just fine for the Facebook marketplace scam.

Anyone here remember something in the media about a psychopath assigning different roles to people in his cabinet?

Is it always based on merit or something else? Are the people assigned expected to know what they are talking about?

P.S. Why do I feel angry after coming back from a 7 week kiting holiday? Is there something you can take to lessen the symptoms?

I think I have the answer, a 4 week kiting holiday, just to wean me off it.

FormulaNova said..
Anyone here remember something in the media about a psychopath assigning different roles to people in his cabinet?

Is it always based on merit or something else? Are the people assigned expected to know what they are talking about?

Here's what's interesting about your comment.
Doctors and pretty much all medics are notoriously bad with money. Most governmental leadership roles are largely about the delegation of funds. So why on earth would we elect doctors to these positions?

An Italian carburettor.