Any soveriegn citizens here?

Makes me wonder where these guys get their ideas from? Live in a country and derive lots of benefits from it and then claim immunity when they want to? Are there any issues with declaring war against 'sovereign citizens'?

www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/cops-drag-sovereign-citizen-from-car-in-coffs-harbour/news-story/54c5c2c22fc4ff30c1ef9a394e619938

that cop was polite, ripping the window back, other more enjoyable option would be using baton and showering the stupid bitch with glass. another option would have been Taser before smashing window
The police can be very patient with yobs.
They should have arrested her, dragged to the front of her vehicle and.... oh bugga, sorry lady you didnt put your vehicle in park and now its run over you.

My guess is she knew her car was unregistered and this was a last ditch effort to avoid the consequences, hoping the cops would decide it was too much bother to deal with her.

"We're not driving, we're travelling." Haha, I'll try that one next time I get pulled over for speeding!

Low income/maturity people with no Internet access prior to 2010 getting brain washed on Facebook, and then becoming radicalised like the female in the news. Then we had the COVID years. As we have seen on the forum and IRL, the government has a damaged reputation now, regardless of their good intention. It will take a generation to repair that. The poor cops are the human face of the government. I feel sorry for the cops having to deal with that on a daily basis now. I had to stop the video 1/4 way. It was too pathetic watching the crackpot rant on to the cop. So, I'm on the fence with this one. I don't agree with her actions, but I think there were forces at work that got her there. I know a few people who have criminal records now since COVID. One of them was a role model public servant who became anti-vaccine radicalised. If it wasn't for COVID and Facebook, they wouldn't have got into trouble with the law IMO.

Apparently she had warrants for her arrest. If she didn't / doesn't have warrants and the car was registered the cop is in the wrong. It's funny to see people care so much for the police who are owned / run by the government and not care for the people that pay for the government to be in place who have been poisoned by a you know what.
Very strange parallel existence we have going on.

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jn1 said..
Low income/maturity people with no Internet access prior to 2010 getting brain washed on Facebook, and then becoming radicalised like the female in the news. Then we had the COVID years. As we have seen on the forum and IRL, the government has a damaged reputation now, regardless of their good intention. It will take a generation to repair that. The poor cops are the human face of the government. I feel sorry for the cops having to deal with that on a daily basis now. I had to stop the video 1/4 way. It was too pathetic watching the crackpot rant on to the cop. So, I'm on the fence with this one. I don't agree with her actions, but I think there were forces at work that got her there. I know a few people who have criminal records now since COVID. One of them was a role model public servant who became anti-vaccine radicalised. If it wasn't for COVID and Facebook, they wouldn't have got into trouble with the law IMO.

Care to
Elaborate?

What bit do you want be to elaborate on ?

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jn1 said..
What bit do you want be to elaborate on ?

The crimes they committed and what they were charged with

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Harrow said..
My guess is she knew her car was unregistered and this was a last ditch effort to avoid the consequences, hoping the cops would decide it was too much bother to deal with her.

"We're not driving, we're travelling." Haha, I'll try that one next time I get pulled over for speeding!

I think back to those people that wanted to secede from Australia. To me the obvious thing was, 'what is stopping Australia from "invading" the properties of these idiots'. They always wanted to have their own laws and rules but use the rest of Australia as they saw fit.

I think these Sovereign Citizens are the same.

I am learning lots about breaking car windows on Seabreeze. PM33s video about inciting violence against doctors has a guy breaking one, and this has one. Car windows are surprisingly durable, so in each case they have had a lot of force put on them. Clearly point-force makes a difference, but hat's off to the cop that broke one. I wouldn't want to be holding it when it shatters.

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FormulaNova said..

Harrow said..
My guess is she knew her car was unregistered and this was a last ditch effort to avoid the consequences, hoping the cops would decide it was too much bother to deal with her.

"We're not driving, we're travelling." Haha, I'll try that one next time I get pulled over for speeding!

I think back to those people that wanted to secede from Australia. To me the obvious thing was, 'what is stopping Australia from "invading" the properties of these idiots'. They always wanted to have their own laws and rules but use the rest of Australia as they saw fit.

I think these Sovereign Citizens are the same.

I am learning lots about breaking car windows on Seabreeze. PM33s video about inciting violence against doctors has a guy breaking one, and this has one. Car windows are surprisingly durable, so in each case they have had a lot of force put on them. Clearly point-force makes a difference, but hat's off to the cop that broke one. I wouldn't want to be holding it when it shatters.

That shows your level of intelligence in regards to safety glass ????

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FormulaNova said..

Harrow said..
My guess is she knew her car was unregistered and this was a last ditch effort to avoid the consequences, hoping the cops would decide it was too much bother to deal with her.

"We're not driving, we're travelling." Haha, I'll try that one next time I get pulled over for speeding!

I think back to those people that wanted to secede from Australia. To me the obvious thing was, 'what is stopping Australia from "invading" the properties of these idiots'. They always wanted to have their own laws and rules but use the rest of Australia as they saw fit.

I think these Sovereign Citizens are the same.

I am learning lots about breaking car windows on Seabreeze. PM33s video about inciting violence against doctors has a guy breaking one, and this has one. Car windows are surprisingly durable, so in each case they have had a lot of force put on them. Clearly point-force makes a difference, but hat's off to the cop that broke one. I wouldn't want to be holding it when it shatters.

That shows your level of intelligence in regards to safety glass ????

I think my level of intelligence is questionable; I just removed you out of the hidden list...

I have bought enough wrecked cars over the years with enough broken windows to know that its not always safe. Sure, it shatters into tiny fragments and generally they are okay, but they are not always blunt either. Try and break one with your hands, you will probably be okay, but you are just as likely to get some in your hands as well.

To double down on this I had the unfortunate experience of slipping over in a shower and grabbing the door as I went down. They can flex quite a lot before they then break, and then 'pow' you have thousands of tiny bits of glass everywhere. The outcome of this was that I had glass everywhere and a bit had sliced the tip off of my toe (lucky it was my toe!).

Going off on a tangent, has anyone had the misfortune of breaking perspex? That stuff is scary sharp when it shatters.

My windows are always breaking. I am up to Windows 10 now!!

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www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/cops-drag-sovereign-citizen-from-car-in-coffs-harbour/news-story/54c5c2c22fc4ff30c1ef9a394e619938

I think we can all agree this proves one thing.

The s hit in Coffs Harbour is top-class, A1, export grade, mind bending, psycho s hit.

Look, sure you can go up to Byron and pay top dollar for some watered down s hit from a millennial who calls themselves a hippie, or go down to Sydney and pay a small fortune for a bit of white stuff that has questionable properties but looks cools on insta - but....

if you want the real, no frills, top notch organic s hit, then Coffs is the place to be. Hell, some of it is even endorsed by HotBodMon.





Oh yeah, also - I am pretty sure that is Lotofwind's mum.

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Going off on a tangent, has anyone had the misfortune of breaking perspex? That stuff is scary sharp when it shatters.

Another fun thing to break are those Corelle glass plates and bowls. Incredibly durable, but when they do finally break they explode with the sound of a gunshot, leaving hundreds of long sharp shards spread over a large area. Dropped one on the tiled kitchen floor next to my bare feet recently. I thought everything was okay until a few minutes later when I saw my feet were 'sweating' blood from dozens of fine pin-prick cuts.

twitter.com/SealySikes/status/1049015456022052864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1049015456022052864%7Ctwgr%5Ecb0ba84c83af8974d1775cf4185e2451fe2e5a5c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailydot.com%2Funclick%2Fcorelle-unbreakable-dish-video%2F

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Going off on a tangent, has anyone had the misfortune of breaking perspex?

..and I think we can also all agree that what this proves is that FN has reclaimed the title of 'lamest seabreeze post ever, forever-ever" with a come-from-nowhere knock-out blow that myscreenname is gonna find hard to ever top....

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jn1 said..
What bit do you want be to elaborate on ?

The crimes they committed and what they were charged with

To clarify, are you supporting the women's actions in the video ?

I see all point of views, even if some of those views are distorted from experience and media influences (as the women in the video appeared to be IMO). No, I don't know her criminal background. Your post about your vaccine injury a few months ago really opened my eyes. I take your side, and understand why you're angry with the government. Your anger is totally justified IMO. But, I also see the government's perspective when reacting to a potential health care system collapse (real or perceived). Facebook (and similar) is not helping IMO. That's all I was trying to get across. Nb/ Arguing with a cop on the side of the road is never going to end well for you.

All: Apologies in advance if I've turned this into another 22 page COVID thread. Sh!!ting in the breeze.

I busted a window in the hq Ute on my folks farm. It was stuck down, so I got a good grip on it with some pliers, and it went boom! Not too much power was needed, but yes point force breaks it easily.

There is no point fighting the police. They have all of the guns and if it is your word against the word of the police, the authorities always will take the word of the police.

Fighting the police is a dumb way to become sovereign.

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There is no point fighting the police. They have all of the guns and if it is your word against the word of the police, the authorities always will take the word of the police.

Fighting the police is a dumb way to become sovereign.

Actually, if the magistrate is upholding the law correctly, the officer and the defendant's word will carry equal weight.

Bs cop was in wrong if she didnt have warrants. He gave her a lawful directive. She didnt comply.
If there's bern any wrongfull stop or excessive force then the magistrate can balance the scales. I say bring back some discresionary policing. Get in the back of the divvy van first attempt door still shut. Its when fxckits like this are allowed to flourish u get a tara like situation.
ld mate sounded aboriginal also. They love a bit of ypur laws dont apply. Hefty fine. That should prove to em once and for all it actually does. Bruv

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Actually, if the magistrate is upholding the law correctly, the officer and the defendant's word will carry equal weight.

Not the job of a magistrate to uphold the law.

The cops uphold the law.

Magistrate interprets the law (amongst other things).

I've broken a few windows with fire

Hey, if I remove this number plate and the 'Sov' gives me a $50k fine, do I have to pay it?

www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/sovereign-citizen-number-plate-spotted-in-north-queensland/news-story/102ce27a797e67e337134b20594e0e9c

Or do I tell them that I don't agree to their corporation and that I am a living person? I want to understand the etiquete as being sovereign is a minefield. How do you know who is in your sovereign group and who is not?

Also, does this promote inbreeding within a sovereign corporation? I need to understand this to make sure that my children's IQs don't get even lower.

How does the sovereign internet work? Do they have their own ISPs or do they contract out to the 'corporation's NBN'.

Surely there must be a few Sovs here or are they all locked up being prisoners of the state for exercising their right to travelling unregistered?

Macro, are you out there? Can you comment on this as you no doubt have those sorts of people where you live. (Not the cows, the Sovs.)

Presumably they would be using international driving licences and carry diplomatic passports and plates.

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FormulaNova said..
Hey, if I remove this number plate and the 'Sov' gives me a $50k fine, do I have to pay it?

Yes, of course you have to pay it.

Not sure what currency they want it paid in though. Bitcoin probably, although they spelt that wrong by using $. Maybe 50k in potatoes ?


Also, no idea who they will get to enforce it. Themselves presumably.

At which point you could resist quite strongly. No idea where they go then. Crying to mummy internet I suspect.


But the best thing is that if we keep highlighting these crazies then we can link them all to anti-vaxxers (no evidence needed, it is just empirical they are), and thus also then label anyone who dares question the benefits as an equally nutty nut-jobber.

win-win.

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Presumably they would be using international driving licences and carry diplomatic passports and plates.

But then they would have to be signatories to whatever UN charters govern such things, and recognized and accepted by all the other members of the UN..

But they aren't.

So they aren't whatever they think they are for the exact same reason that they think they are what they think they are.

Incidentally, I didn't realise the Hutt River Province was dissolved a couple of years ago.

visited Hutt River back in late 70's. very enjoyable entertaining day and dude.

After I left I started feeling empathy for him until I got sacked then found government social security helped me financially.

OK everyone, look.

Not sure exactly what is going but, but if this is supposed to be some sort of surprise on Carantoc, then yeah, very funny, ha-ha.



I have searched and searched the Australia Day awards and nowhere could I see Carantoc being awarded an OBE for Services to Internet Forums.

Not even a OA medal. Nothing.

Nothing.


If somebody nobody has ever heard of can be Aussie of the Year, pretty sure Carantoc can get at least a medal.....

So if you'se ****-ers don't start appreciating Carantoc's contributions and nominate me for an award then I might just have to start...., well start.... look it is too horrible to even say. Let's just agree the nominations better start coming thick and fast or.........

If you get a nom. just be be one of those people who keeps going back. Sister in law was nominated years ago, yesterday, there she was at parliament house again. Just move on already, you didn't even win.