This forum always talks about events and real-time wind weather e.t.c. ...
Community radio station for coastal recreation districts dealing more with specifics e.g. "real-time transferred online reports of ocean and weather with GPS by user to the station website for update"
tis to "pilots and NOTAM's" e.g. when an occluded front stall and lee waves occur in low level flying or a front with a newly formed Cumulonimbus.
Simply much more casual and user friendly
www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/NOTAM-Group-Management-User-Guide1.pdf

I've been at an old problem i get not good enough radio reception, but then Short-Wave never is until use of a long lateral antenna and most outback or remote locations only send -resend "radio national" (ABC radio for those that don't know) weather AM or FM (never mind DAB for now).
Good antennas are a problem to find or use but too then also are how they work and what you are getting from the transmitters capability (distance for wattage).
Long ago with some metallurgy and minimal know how from a few simpler wave-mechanics articles i reasonably solved the reception problem albeit somewhat "a bigger hammer".

HOWEVER, the real world of listening is an interesting one, there are many FM stereo broadcast community stations i find only use 100w transmission that is lost over 5km or at least its quality severely degraded.
These FM stereo public broadcast stations for local news, events, environment and condition are powered by sets that can often be bought for close on 1k aud each, and are much a packaged unit or set off the shelf (notwithstanding government licensing and other technical requirements such as the transmitter tower mast location governed by the 1971 act of Australian height Audit)
www.acma.gov.au/-/media/Licence-Issue-and-Allocation/Information/Word-Document/Radiocommunications-site-data-requirements-docx.docx?la=en

(So saying brings me to an interesting little point, the 1w and 5w FM stereo public broadcast sets that can be bought on ebay at quite a cheap price or in bulk sets of them, these i can only presume are to keep megalomaniacs in line by notifying police by computer automatically at point of sale on the net).

30 years ago as a teenager i was a presenter(on air announcer) at a community radio station and learned the general good minimum for area broadcast outside of cities required 500w not a mere local district 100w.
More than this, a technology called circular polarisation of the transmitter antenna was used to give better reception in cars and during bad weather as its audience in the remote outback would likely hear it it during transit more than in a home.
circular polarized: cdn.thomasnet.com/ccp/10014548/223252.pdf
The final piece of information, circular polarized antennas have field area characteristics that are dependent on the design of the antenna elements shape shedding of the waves making it possible to choose a "North South affected" oval or elliptical field broadcast design of the area cast with the circular polarised antenna (manufacturer documentation dependent).
Example article:
www.radioworld.com/columns-and-views/when-is-a-nondirectional-fm-antenna-directional
www.radioworld.com/resource-center/the-real-world-of-nondirectional-and-directional-antennas
www.aareff.com/en/mixed-circular-fm-transmitter-antenna/
www.progressive-concepts.com/transmission-equipment/---Progressives-PCP-Circularly-Polarized-FM-Antenna_PT729.html
Directional only http://www.jampro.com/uploads/product_pdf/fm/sidemount/Low%20Power%20FM%20Antenna%20Systems.pdf
That then enables broadcast of (by scenario) a short-wide chunk of area over a populous at one end such as ei.g. Hornsby with a longer thinner coastal strip half ocean and half land by point of antenna characteristics setup.

The point, radio stations serve their best as regular update of real time information that the user does not need to manipulate to gain access to the information (in a boat or on a paddle board yacht e.t.c.) because hearing (the easiest to co manage during a tasks threading, they do not need to stop their tasks and activities to access information) is easier than affecting what they actually see or need to manipulate, along with more "living social point" aside to computing, flags or flashing lights (those too often require pre known registered periodic intervals to manage activity cohesion).

Hold on... what thought did you hear?

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Pugwash said..
Hold on... what thought did you hear?

V'fought i 'erd was much of recreational activity information along a coast line is not "oriented completely" inside any one media system let alone one radio station.
You've heard of infoadvertising or infovertisement but there are much more friendly and useful productive ways,, particularly because community radio cannot commit advertising, they can only do "promotions" by legal classification. (tell of a sponsor and their purpose but without economic reference during the announcement)

Is it...."Hears a thought" as I don't think we can hear thoughts, or "Here's a thought" as in, here is a thought I have to tell you??

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shi thouse said..
Is it...."Hears a thought" as I don't think we can hear thoughts, or "Here's a thought" as in, here is a thought I have to tell you??

Don't correct it! You'll be helping the bot to improve its AI capabilities!

Respond with junk so it doesn't learn from us!

Ok so how much will it cost me to buy all the stuff set up and broadcast 24/7 Simon n Garfunkel and how far can I transmit it.

I would also fart into a microphone now and than

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Razzonater said..
Ok so how much will it cost me to buy all the stuff set up and broadcast 24/7 Simon n Garfunkel and how far can I transmit it.

I would also fart into a microphone now and than

As you tout yourself there in your post, you can go to Australian ebay as you would be around a 5w , on USA ebay the megalomaniacs are as large as 150w pre-made sets.

Cost for a community radio station is much indeterminate just as per se
First things first ! such an action involves proof of "volunteer" (unpaid people although there are a few sub-contract members allowed) supply in all criteria including:
Also proof of funding by donation for a particular time (year or two) on startup for the "rig" involved such as buildings, transmitter type with components , tower location proof of legal and legislative managers appointed and agreed for purpose of responsibility and liase with government authorities.
...Is usually making a declared board of directors of the syndicate like creature (because it is not a company).

A creed of supply of materials (broadcasted media) and directives draft for purpose and nature of the radio station
with
relation to its effect upon the community.

legal public presentation / performance ethics managers for in station ethics policing of both persons and materials

Accountants / bursars

legal public presentation censors for promotion announcement and policy teachers / drafters

Broadcast Radio technicians

tools

consumables

electricity


to name a few...

I like it

How much?

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quikdrawMcgraw said..
How much?

Going back to answering Razonator about how much, there is also the problem of all "media articles" used have a "fee of royalties to the artist and their company" whether music or the most boring recorded articles and lecture,s, including reading aloud to the microphone excerpts or complete sections of published text that all must be both pre registered in "programming"with a secure master sheet/list for approval and cost approval of the fees.

There was another item i totally forgot to mention, its a locked up "slow long play recording tape reel system" takes around 7 days to complete its reel, it's called the "on air station master recording" that contains every moment of the audio of any type sent to the transmitter for broadcast. It records in real-time.

If you simply wish to be a noxious megalomaniac as the 5w stereo broadcast systems imply , i'm not sure there is a fee for that with the Australian Broadcasting Commission, but in general the output wattage and the aimed (beamed) broadcast area to apply to the the commission with is what will determine "the periodic license cost of the stereo FM public broadcast radio station".

For coastal on a long ellipse or elongated direction cast beam, i'd say the wattage needs something like 1000w (1Kw) for a clear 15-20 km range circular polarised with a width of 5-8km, or 2000w (2Kw) to have two equal wave-length antennas (possible two different masts but both circular polarized - same location - both beam set) one beamed populated area the other spread ellipse along the coast and land with a few Km's on the sea side out to sea.

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nicephotog said..

quikdrawMcgraw said..
How much?

Going back to answering Razonator about how much, there is also the problem of all "media articles" used have a "fee of royalties to the artist and their company" whether music or the most boring recorded articles and lecture,s, including reading aloud to the microphone excerpts or complete sections of published text that all must be both pre registered in "programming"with a secure master sheet/list for approval and cost approval of the fees.

There was another item i totally forgot to mention, its a locked up "slow long play recording tape reel system" takes around 7 days to complete its reel, it's called the "on air station master recording" that contains every moment of the audio of any type sent to the transmitter for broadcast. It records in real-time.

If you simply wish to be a noxious megalomaniac as the 5w stereo broadcast systems imply , i'm not sure there is a fee for that with the Australian Broadcasting Commission, but in general the output wattage and the aimed (beamed) broadcast area to apply to the the commission with is what will determine "the periodic license cost of the stereo FM public broadcast radio station".

Hey, chatbot, go back to Pugwash's question. What thought did you hear?

When can we start?

I certainly do wish to be a noxious megalomaniac, I am looking into this.

is this really a chatbot

I here there are thoughts hear

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Razzonater said..
I certainly do wish to be a noxious megalomaniac, I am looking into this.

is this really a chatbot

Nah, you've got to get over to HW for that

What some of it was, that the forum only operates intermittent and usually only when someone finds and anomaly to say, but with community radio it keeps a large portion of the commercialised bombardment out of programmes, but no less useful to recreational coastal activity.
e.g. the worst case scenario is being hijacked by the recreational fishing subject (as welcome - anything fits to this activity) in the directives and creeds of media material to serve by broadcast.
e.g. SUP, windsurfing kite-surfing , boat tow paragliding, kite surfing , small sail yachts, cameraman in basis have the same weather information needs as fishing along with ocean swell e.t.c. but in essence effect nothing really understands its availability or where they are at a coastal point (place).
Programmes around those types of points using a coastal elongated elyptic beam is at least easy enough to advertise its presence along the Princes highway but requires a high perch of something like foot accessible to put a studio and tower to beat the high hill ranges as they have around Coal Cliff and Otford , main bar or Gymea hills. for north *Gosford at least is something like the community but in any scenario its easy to get to to , to make the proper shape and stretch out along both ocean and land coastline means multiple Kw of transmission power(makes me think this would be thought of before but is the stumbling block for transmission and cost because of terrain) and means a pair of more expensive set whether a good beam or not.
*The hill requires to be inside a populous not merely safety but regular serviced by transport outright.

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shi thouse said..
Is it...."Hears a thought" as I don't think we can hear thoughts, or "Here's a thought" as in, here is a thought I have to tell you??

does that mean these voices I hear in my head are not reel?

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the truth said..

shi thouse said..
Is it...."Hears a thought" as I don't think we can hear thoughts, or "Here's a thought" as in, here is a thought I have to tell you??

does that mean these voices I hear in my head are not reel?

Thesis simply a point about some of the capability of FM stereo radio transmitter technology equipment becoming cheaper andhow such media (FM radio) is not implemented in useas FM radio (DAB neither)because of the ferocious terrain along the NSW coast(or, generally any other) , it has always fallen back to radio national to report local ocean conditions with BOM (almost another department of ABC radio), play music and supplement to the listeners interesting media articles of the subject (obviously NIL of these and is not aimed at the coast).
Radio national is the only one with TWO things it cheats at having available
1. The budget and access to acquirement by request for funds(although it claims alike a criminal it has never been fed) money
2. The legal logistics available for departmental liaise"to acquire use of the top of a hill" , never mind laying the line to the top of a hill and tower installation , from the transmitter if you choose to lose a large quantity of power through the coax, or you boost and tune your power into an amp and send around six lines (4 audio) to the hill top to the transmitter (off grid) boosted by audio amplifier and volts-out tuned for no over-modulation.
*NOTE: I do not think anything or anyone can put a dwelling or alike on the top of a hill anywhere in Britain or its commonwealths UNLESS it is in an established city/town boundary, it seems it works that way legally since sometime like WW1 !

In one case FM 99.7 2SSR Sutherland (Sydney) travels 13 Km , only quite has the stereo light flashing on a high gain 1/4 but is bearable to listen to with the heavy background crackle, and there are three 50 meter hill-range topography with many more granite and undulation.
In another FM 90.1 2NBC Narwee (Sydney) travels 10Km with slightly less efficiency.
With the "inbuilt FM aerial" both are scratchy faint and extremely unpleasant although voice is understandable.
The previous two are community stations and 100w power (ok listening audience in a dense populated city for beam range)
FM 98.1 2WIN (quick note - 2WIN is the "call-sign" and must be spoken clearly within something like 15 minutes to half an hour by legal obligation !orpenalties upon the station such as fines apply ) Wollongong Illawarra 40K transmission power and crackles heavily by 80Km but audible , alike the description of 99.7 FM (using the1/4 wave high gain).

How many Kw are those voices you can here , did you find this heuristically Heur?

Note the following has Lat. Long. DEG,MIN,SEC references for the transmitter tower positions and no altitude , but finding both a converter online to decimal degrees for google and an online topographic map is difficult.
data.gov.au/data/storage/f/2013-05-12T174050/tmp5kSbV2stations_book_electronic_edition.pdf