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Have TVs become too big?

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rockmagnet
rockmagnet

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29 Jan 2020 3:43pm
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Ian K said..
You all remind me of Mum. She liked to outdo the neighbours. 23" HMV left them all green with envy. And they said we'd get square eyes!

65" corner to corner! Are you sure?



Diagonal measurement
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

29 Jan 2020 2:28pm
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rockmagnet said..

Ian K said..
You all remind me of Mum. She liked to outdo the neighbours. 23" HMV left them all green with envy. And they said we'd get square eyes!

65" corner to corner! Are you sure?



Diagonal measurement


Good point. I automatically assumed people knew this, but it makes a big difference to the screen size if you think its horizontal or worse, vertical.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

29 Jan 2020 5:07pm
55" is the biggest that fits inside the TV alcove that's built into the wall... for when CRTs were a thing.
55" packaging also fits in the Troopy for the trip home. (+1 for the too big to steal idea)

My 2007 42" Panasonic Plasma start playing up over a year ago (randomly loses sound then reboots) Picture is still awesome, Sound (when working) awesome.
A particularly bad run of reboots combined with Boxing day sales necessitated a new 55" Panasonic OLED - Picture is AWESOME (even has Pic in Pic), Sound is ATROCIOUS!

In order to keep the "clean and bezel less" design, the speakers fire backwards and the sound bounces around behind it in the alcove, eventually "leaking" around the edges of the TV. Successfully removing all the "voice" frequencies.
Ended up getting a soundbar... and only then due to the "issue" with the kids and wife needing to use 2 remotes when TV connected to the Bluetooth Dongle* to the 2002 model Pioneer Home theatre requiring more than one thing to be turned on.

*cause technology means the TV cant talk directly to the HT via a cable.




... and since moving the old 42" TV to be bedroom, it hasn't failed once... grrrr.
landyacht
landyacht

WA

5921 posts

29 Jan 2020 5:46pm
just working on electrical lay out for new house and wifeys got tv points all over the placeI was thinking of just installing the outlets with no cabling, so we can finally get rid of the things
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

30 Jan 2020 8:55am
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rod_bunny said..
55" is the biggest that fits inside the TV alcove that's built into the wall... for when CRTs were a thing.
55" packaging also fits in the Troopy for the trip home. (+1 for the too big to steal idea)

My 2007 42" Panasonic Plasma start playing up over a year ago (randomly loses sound then reboots) Picture is still awesome, Sound (when working) awesome.
A particularly bad run of reboots combined with Boxing day sales necessitated a new 55" Panasonic OLED - Picture is AWESOME (even has Pic in Pic), Sound is ATROCIOUS!

In order to keep the "clean and bezel less" design, the speakers fire backwards and the sound bounces around behind it in the alcove, eventually "leaking" around the edges of the TV. Successfully removing all the "voice" frequencies.
Ended up getting a soundbar... and only then due to the "issue" with the kids and wife needing to use 2 remotes when TV connected to the Bluetooth Dongle* to the 2002 model Pioneer Home theatre requiring more than one thing to be turned on.

*cause technology means the TV cant talk directly to the HT via a cable.




... and since moving the old 42" TV to be bedroom, it hasn't failed once... grrrr.


My parents bought an Aldi tv that the sound was so awful that it hurt my ears. I went and bought them a soundbar just to make it stop!

The same reason, in that the speakers were so badly placed that you had to turn the volume up and then the other frequencies were painful.
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

30 Jan 2020 9:51pm
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FormulaNova said..My parents bought an Aldi tv that the sound was so awful that it hurt my ears. I went and bought them a soundbar just to make it stop!

The same reason, in that the speakers were so badly placed that you had to turn the volume up and then the other frequencies were painful.

No secret that the Aldi TV's have ridiculously bad sound, worse than you could imagine, so you really MUST have an external speaker system to use with them. But the picture is pretty good and if you we're already planning on external speakers, it's hard to beat the price. Both mine are Aldi and I've no regrets.
evlPanda
evlPanda

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9207 posts

30 Jan 2020 11:35pm
They are a big, black void in your living room. They look terrible.

You want to put your hand out sideways in front of you, and have it almost cover the image. Officially.

This is is why you pick those seats in the cinema.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

30 Jan 2020 8:51pm
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Harrow said..

FormulaNova said..My parents bought an Aldi tv that the sound was so awful that it hurt my ears. I went and bought them a soundbar just to make it stop!

The same reason, in that the speakers were so badly placed that you had to turn the volume up and then the other frequencies were painful.


No secret that the Aldi TV's have ridiculously bad sound, worse than you could imagine, so you really MUST have an external speaker system to use with them. But the picture is pretty good and if you we're already planning on external speakers, it's hard to beat the price. Both mine are Aldi and I've no regrets.


It's a known thing? I turned up at my parents place, and for a change they have enough money to buy a name brand tv, and mum has bought an Aldi TV. The sound was absolutely awful and was hurting my ears. They had turned the volume up so high so that they could hear it, but even then it felt like the sound was 'bad'/harsh. Even the cheap soundbar I bought for them was a million percent better except for the fact it charges via USB and if the TV is not turned on for ages comes up with random phrases this 'the blue tooth service is now off' in a heavily Chinese accented English.

The thing that annoys me all the time, is that they do this all the time and buy 'yum-cha' brand TVs and then call me when the remotes break or get lost or they want a second one, and generally these level of TVs don't have an easy replacement. I lucked out and used a Jaycar programmable remote which is pretty good, but its still annoying to have to program this each time.

I guess you are right. The picture quality is fine, so an external sound system fixes it.

StKKiter
StKKiter

SA

85 posts

30 Jan 2020 11:29pm
Bought a Panasonic SD 42" in 2006 and it has been great, preferred the picture to many of the HD screens of that generation for less $. However, it has stopped working and I am looking for a new one, probably ~55". Any suggestions? Decent sound without a soundbar world be good (the missus doesn't like multiple remotes)
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

31 Jan 2020 9:03am
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FormulaNova said..
It's a known thing? I turned up at my parents place, and for a change they have enough money to buy a name brand tv, and mum has bought an Aldi TV. The sound was absolutely awful and was hurting my ears. They had turned the volume up so high so that they could hear it, but even then it felt like the sound was 'bad'/harsh. Even the cheap soundbar I bought for them was a million percent better except for the fact it charges via USB and if the TV is not turned on for ages comes up with random phrases this 'the blue tooth service is now off' in a heavily Chinese accented English.

The thing that annoys me all the time, is that they do this all the time and buy 'yum-cha' brand TVs and then call me when the remotes break or get lost or they want a second one, and generally these level of TVs don't have an easy replacement. I lucked out and used a Jaycar programmable remote which is pretty good, but its still annoying to have to program this each time.

I guess you are right. The picture quality is fine, so an external sound system fixes it.


Read enough online reviews and a consistent message starts to emerge... nice picture, hopeless sound.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

31 Jan 2020 6:41am
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Harrow said..
FormulaNova said..
It's a known thing? I turned up at my parents place, and for a change they have enough money to buy a name brand tv, and mum has bought an Aldi TV. The sound was absolutely awful and was hurting my ears. They had turned the volume up so high so that they could hear it, but even then it felt like the sound was 'bad'/harsh. Even the cheap soundbar I bought for them was a million percent better except for the fact it charges via USB and if the TV is not turned on for ages comes up with random phrases this 'the blue tooth service is now off' in a heavily Chinese accented English.

The thing that annoys me all the time, is that they do this all the time and buy 'yum-cha' brand TVs and then call me when the remotes break or get lost or they want a second one, and generally these level of TVs don't have an easy replacement. I lucked out and used a Jaycar programmable remote which is pretty good, but its still annoying to have to program this each time.

I guess you are right. The picture quality is fine, so an external sound system fixes it.


Read enough online reviews and a consistent message starts to emerge... nice picture, hopeless sound.


So, a 'bimbo TV'? Looks great but you don't want to listen to it?
rockmagnet
rockmagnet

QLD

1458 posts

31 Jan 2020 1:54pm
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StKKiter said..
Bought a Panasonic SD 42" in 2006 and it has been great, preferred the picture to many of the HD screens of that generation for less $. However, it has stopped working and I am looking for a new one, probably ~55". Any suggestions? Decent sound without a soundbar world be good (the missus doesn't like multiple remotes)


I added a Bose 700 soundbar with smaller 500 subwoofer to my 55"Sony. Like being at the movies and the remote tunes into everything so you can get away with one remote. You do need the internet though.
Even expensive Tv's have poor sound as the speakers are small due to thinness of tv.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

31 Jan 2020 12:53pm
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rockmagnet said..

StKKiter said..
Bought a Panasonic SD 42" in 2006 and it has been great, preferred the picture to many of the HD screens of that generation for less $. However, it has stopped working and I am looking for a new one, probably ~55". Any suggestions? Decent sound without a soundbar world be good (the missus doesn't like multiple remotes)



I added a Bose 700 soundbar with smaller 500 subwoofer to my 55"Sony. Like being at the movies and the remote tunes into everything so you can get away with one remote. You do need the internet though.
Even expensive Tv's have poor sound as the speakers are small due to thinness of tv.


There is 'poor sound' and then there is absolutely awful sound. The sound on my Samsung TVs seems fine as does the older Sony LCD I have. On the Samsung it seems that increasing the volume above a certain level does nothing, but its still okay. I agree that an external system is much better.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

2 Feb 2020 1:27pm
Regards the poor sound... One upside is that the TV will connect to my Bluetooth headphones so I can watch loud things at night... or the news with the kids running around... or kid watches kid stuff that I don't have to hear...
lotofwind
lotofwind

NSW

6451 posts

2 Feb 2020 5:10pm
Go for a TCL, awesome picture and good sound, no need for sound bar, great for gaming. They have built in Harman/Kardon sound bar.
They are a number 1 seller in the States, don't hear much about them here, not sure why??, but was recommended it by a mate, had the 55' , 4K for 2 years now, no dramas and haven't ever thought it could be better with a sound bar.
Good Guys had them on special for $850, normally $1350....... 2 years ago. So pretty old and outdated now, but still happy with it.
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate

SA

3591 posts

2 Feb 2020 8:30pm
I don't refer to them as tv's anymore.More like can you turn on the viewing wall?
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