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Gyro chopper?

Created by southace southace  > 9 months ago, 4 Aug 2020
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Jolene
Jolene

Jolene

WA

1622 posts

7 Aug 2020 9:05am
i've manufactured parts for a few gyros and repaired one. Most crashes with gyros occur at take off due to the pilot trying to get airborne before obtaining enough rotor speed. Take off is thought to be more difficult than the landing where in fixed wing craft, it tends to be the opposite.
Toph
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Toph

WA

1875 posts

7 Aug 2020 10:58am
^^^ But if the pilot adhered to the manufacturer's performance speeds, it wouldn't be an issue.. That is more a lack of training or mindset then it is a design flaw....
Jolene
Jolene

Jolene

WA

1622 posts

7 Aug 2020 11:54am
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Toph said..
^^^ But if the pilot adhered to the manufacturer's performance speeds, it wouldn't be an issue.. That is more a lack of training or mindset then it is a design flaw....



Of course,,, it's a lack of training and a lack of understanding the physics of auto rotation flight,,, and often, the mindset of the pilot thinking he is flying a plane.,, Nothing wrong with the design
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

7 Aug 2020 2:05pm
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Jolene said..

Toph said..
^^^ But if the pilot adhered to the manufacturer's performance speeds, it wouldn't be an issue.. That is more a lack of training or mindset then it is a design flaw....




Of course,,, it's a lack of training and a lack of understanding the physics of auto rotation flight,,, and often, the mindset of the pilot thinking he is flying a plane.,, Nothing wrong with the design


Wonder what the stats are like compared to people who learn to fly on furious autogiros...
GasHazard
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GasHazard

QLD

385 posts

7 Aug 2020 2:11pm
I think a glider with an electric motor to get up there would be the thing.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

7 Aug 2020 2:25pm
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GasHazard said..
I think a glider with an electric motor to get up there would be the thing.




I think electric motors for powered paragliders have been around for a while. Buddy here has one (PPG more popular than kiting and windsurfing combined) and he said it's all the advantages and disadvantages you'd expect...

That glider concept has been around for ages, wonder why it hasn't taken off...

This is a much tidier concept...

Jolene
Jolene

Jolene

WA

1622 posts

7 Aug 2020 4:02pm
What a weapon
sn
sn

sn

WA

2775 posts

7 Aug 2020 9:22pm
I'm pretty sure that the bloke who built [and flew] the "little nellie" gyrocopter for the 007 movie is still flying his gyro's!!
Jolene
Jolene

Jolene

WA

1622 posts

7 Aug 2020 9:40pm
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sn said..
I'm pretty sure that the bloke who built [and flew] the "little nellie" gyrocopter for the 007 movie is still flying his gyro's!!



Yeah. I reckon I seen him on a cattle station in the north Pilbara
musorianin
musorianin

musorianin

QLD

597 posts

7 Aug 2020 11:43pm
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Kamikuza said..

Harrow said..


IanR said..
Harrow
I have heard pilots describe flying as 99% boredom 1% sheer screaming terror



Apparently even more so for Air Traffic Control. I had a friend who used to do that and quit. He was paid a lot more than I was getting as a young engineer and he had zero academic qualifications. I asked him why would he leave such a high paying job when he had no prospects of getting paid even half as much.....he gave me the 99% 1% line, and said he couldn't take the stress of that 1% any more. That was back in the early 90's when they had antiquated equipment that kept breaking down, probably a lot better now.



I've got a friend who left ATC recently for the same reason. I don't think it's any less stressful now


Surely just feet up on the desk and starting out the window these last three or four months? No, seriously, it's stressful... Huge responsibility
Pacey
Pacey

Pacey

WA

525 posts

7 Aug 2020 10:11pm
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Kamikuza said..

GasHazard said..
I think a glider with an electric motor to get up there would be the thing.





I think electric motors for powered paragliders have been around for a while. Buddy here has one (PPG more popular than kiting and windsurfing combined) and he said it's all the advantages and disadvantages you'd expect...

That glider concept has been around for ages, wonder why it hasn't taken off...

This is a much tidier concept...



Looks to me like the LS8-E just has a sustainer motor (i.e. can sustain flight but not take off under its own power) whereas the Atares can take off under its own steam.
myusernam
myusernam

myusernam

QLD

6154 posts

8 Aug 2020 8:31am
what qbout a paramotor outback tour staying at pubs and landing at servos for.fuel and snacks? is that fesible?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

8 Aug 2020 10:42am
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musorianin said..

Kamikuza said..


Harrow said..



IanR said..
Harrow
I have heard pilots describe flying as 99% boredom 1% sheer screaming terror




Apparently even more so for Air Traffic Control. I had a friend who used to do that and quit. He was paid a lot more than I was getting as a young engineer and he had zero academic qualifications. I asked him why would he leave such a high paying job when he had no prospects of getting paid even half as much.....he gave me the 99% 1% line, and said he couldn't take the stress of that 1% any more. That was back in the early 90's when they had antiquated equipment that kept breaking down, probably a lot better now.




I've got a friend who left ATC recently for the same reason. I don't think it's any less stressful now



Surely just feet up on the desk and starting out the window these last three or four months? No, seriously, it's stressful... Huge responsibility


Ah, by recently I mean a couple of years ago
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