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Great White Shark Problem in Cape Cod USA

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Youngbreezy
Youngbreezy

WA

1221 posts

17 Jul 2019 6:53pm
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I just read this article and what I found most interesting about it is the story they outlined very closely mirrors what we have experienced here in SW WA.

Surfing Margaret River 15-20 years ago sharks were an afterthought now they are a big factor in the water down there.

It's interesting to see such a similar situation on the exact opposite side of the globe.

I don't know if I really want to get into the whole cull debate again but I did think this was worth posting.
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

17 Jul 2019 7:22pm



Shanty
Shanty

QLD

487 posts

17 Jul 2019 9:40pm
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

17 Jul 2019 9:41pm
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Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick

In Australia it's horses, cows, dogs, kangaroos, with sharks and bees tying for 5th place. Snakes, crocs and emus take out 7th, 8th and 9th place. A few of these are due to traffic accidents, nevertheless they are the cause of human fatalities, whether they eat you or come through your windscreen at 110 kph.
Shanty
Shanty

QLD

487 posts

17 Jul 2019 9:49pm
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Harrow said..

Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick


In Australia it's horses, cows, dogs, kangaroos, with sharks and bees tying for 5th place. Snakes, crocs and emus take out 7th, 8th and 9th place.


Just googled it. You are right mate bees do kill a few people. Funny you never hear reporters going on about someone who just died from. A bee. Yet the second it has anything to do with sharks, the reporters are all over it.
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

17 Jul 2019 8:00pm
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic
Shanty
Shanty

QLD

487 posts

17 Jul 2019 10:04pm
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causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic


First the tenth word in your post is meant to be retired isn't it. Also did people really Jump off buildings to avoid being stung by a bee?
hilly
hilly

WA

7979 posts

17 Jul 2019 8:05pm
Attacks are down www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/yearly-worldwide-summary/
did not help surfing on my own middle of Cow Bay yesterday as the music was loud
Youngbreezy
Youngbreezy

WA

1221 posts

17 Jul 2019 8:18pm
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causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic



This is honestly some of the best S **posting I have seen in a while

I commend you!
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

17 Jul 2019 10:21pm
I can just picture it.....I'm being stung by a swarm of bees....hang on, if I slowly climb onto the roof of my apartment block, they won't be able to come near me, yeah, I'll do that. And I can understand the whole police conspiracy to cover up bee sting deaths, and pose them as suicides.

Probably the same with pool drowning statistics, all those people that can't swim jumping into the deep end when they are being stung.

Damn, I bet most shark attacks are caused by people diving into the ocean to avoid bee attacks. Everyone knows that bees suck at body surfing and can't duck dive to save their life.
Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

17 Jul 2019 8:36pm
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Harrow said..

Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick


In Australia it's horses, cows, dogs, kangaroos, with sharks and bees tying for 5th place. Snakes, crocs and emus take out 7th, 8th and 9th place. A few of these are due to traffic accidents, nevertheless they are the cause of human fatalities, whether they eat you or come through your windscreen at 110 kph.


Is that adjusted for participation? The membership of Equestrian Australia vs the membership of Surf life Saving Australia. 13,800 vs 169,000 gives some idea of how relatively dangerous it is to get on a horse.

Given the choice between hopping on a horse or going for a swim in the ocean when the shark alarm is blaring? Go for the swim any day.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc

NSW

9029 posts

17 Jul 2019 10:55pm
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causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic


Why was a pre retarded detective investigating bee deaths?

Interesting story.
Shanty
Shanty

QLD

487 posts

17 Jul 2019 10:57pm
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Ian K said..

Harrow said..


Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick



In Australia it's horses, cows, dogs, kangaroos, with sharks and bees tying for 5th place. Snakes, crocs and emus take out 7th, 8th and 9th place. A few of these are due to traffic accidents, nevertheless they are the cause of human fatalities, whether they eat you or come through your windscreen at 110 kph.



Is that adjusted for participation? The membership of Equestrian Australia vs the membership of Surf life Saving Australia. 13,800 vs 169,000 gives some idea of how relatively dangerous it is to get on a horse.

Given the choice between hopping on a horse or going for a swim in the ocean when the shark alarm is blaring? Go for the swim any day.


Yeah mate. But, most attacks happen on unpatrolled beach's. It would be way to loud when there's thousands of people screaming, stamping there feet, driving about in surf patrol boats, for you to really be attacked by sharks anyway at the Gold Coast on a busy day. Now say you are going to go for a swim, across from Redland bay to Peel island in the Dark. Then I would get on a horse any day.

I reckon it it all comes down to Aussies being pretty shark smart. We know (most of us) not to go swimming in the dark. Or not when your alone in a dangerous place. Things like that.
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

17 Jul 2019 9:26pm
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Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick




Here are the stats.
taronga.org.au/conservation-and-science/australian-shark-attack-file

How about driving a car?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_Australia_by_year
whippingboy
whippingboy

WA

1104 posts

17 Jul 2019 10:07pm
50 years ago there were no reported shark attacks in the Margaret river area
Rails
Rails

QLD

1371 posts

18 Jul 2019 4:33am
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whippingboy said..
50 years ago there were no reported shark attacks in the Margaret river area


Yep, it's not that there are more sharks, there are more people

and the bees are really pissed at us for jamming the air full of electromagnetic energy
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

18 Jul 2019 8:39am
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Ian K said..
Is that adjusted for participation? The membership of Equestrian Australia vs the membership of Surf life Saving Australia. 13,800 vs 169,000 gives some idea of how relatively dangerous it is to get on a horse.

Given the choice between hopping on a horse or going for a swim in the ocean when the shark alarm is blaring? Go for the swim any day.

It's just the number of fatalities. Throw in the participation rate, and you'd be right about horse riding being right up there. Oddly enough, I did a life insurance policy interview recently, and they asked if I participated in a number of risky activities, but horse riding wasn't one of them.
Youngbreezy
Youngbreezy

WA

1221 posts

18 Jul 2019 8:46am
I think comparing the different dangerous activities is somewhat besides the point. Yes there's plenty of things that are more likely kill you but it is still important to look at the increase in shark activity and the effect that has on communities.

I don't really buy into the statistics as I don't believe they are properly calibrated for participation. There simply aren't any statistics that are really relevant for people who spend a lot of time in the water in higher risk places ( like surfing the middle of cowaramup bay hilly)

The idea that there is just more people in the water to see the sharks is totally wrong. There are plenty of breaks around the Margaret River area that have had significant numbers in the water for 30+ years. 20 years ago there were no attacks and interactions with great whites in these areas now sightings and interactions are a regular occurrence at these same places. A similar thing is being seen at a number of places around the globe.

Great whites were made protected great white numbers have increased. This seems like a very simple equation.

How much of an increased risk that actually poses to humans and what to do about it is a much more complicated question.
the truth
the truth

QLD

189 posts

18 Jul 2019 12:17pm
maybe they're sick of all the plastic in there food, coming to the edge to see what's on the menu
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

18 Jul 2019 11:14am
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Shanty said..

causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic



First the tenth word in your post is meant to be retired isn't it. Also did people really Jump off buildings to avoid being stung by a bee?


No he became retarded. Continued to work on the force but mostly just trafic infringements
Harrow
Harrow

NSW

4521 posts

18 Jul 2019 1:17pm
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Youngbreezy said..
I think comparing the different dangerous activities is somewhat besides the point. Yes there's plenty of things that are more likely kill you but it is still important to look at the increase in shark activity and the effect that has on communities.

I don't really buy into the statistics as I don't believe they are properly calibrated for participation. There simply aren't any statistics that are really relevant for people who spend a lot of time in the water in higher risk places ( like surfing the middle of cowaramup bay hilly)

The idea that there is just more people in the water to see the sharks is totally wrong. There are plenty of breaks around the Margaret River area that have had significant numbers in the water for 30+ years. 20 years ago there were no attacks and interactions with great whites in these areas now sightings and interactions are a regular occurrence at these same places. A similar thing is being seen at a number of places around the globe.

Great whites were made protected great white numbers have increased. This seems like a very simple equation.

How much of an increased risk that actually poses to humans and what to do about it is a much more complicated question.

I reckon daily surfing in one of the key locations is probably akin to the risk of riding a motorbike lately.
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

18 Jul 2019 11:18am
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Mobydisc said..

causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded. Reckoned thst back then theyre was alot more bees around. Often they would fly in thru peoples windows and chase them out of theyre own apartments up onto the roofs and attack them until they had no choice but to jump. Whole thing would get written off as suicide. So i think we could add way more to the bee death statistic



Why was a pre retarded detective investigating bee deaths?

Interesting story.


He was investigating suicides possible murders but they all had bee stings. Some people started calling themselves the hornets rode around town of small bore bikes making a terrible noise as you could imagine.
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott

924 posts

18 Jul 2019 12:37pm
Big sharks are scary

I have patted horses, dogs, goats, cows, camels etc etc, not scared once.

I have bought many things from vending machines, driven lots of cars, ridden on motorbikes, not scared once.

I have only seen one gws up close, I was scared
Carantoc
Carantoc

WA

7194 posts

18 Jul 2019 5:05pm
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causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded

causehecan said..
No he became retarded



Do you think it might be contagious or genetic causehecan ?

Either way I am suspecting it can probably be passed from uncle to nephew.
lotofwind
lotofwind

NSW

6451 posts

18 Jul 2019 7:12pm
Oh bee-have yourself Carantoc, you will catch more flys with honey.
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

18 Jul 2019 5:29pm
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Carantoc said..
causehecan said..
My uncle was a detective in sydney before he retarded

causehecan said..
No he became retarded



Do you think it might be contagious or genetic causehecan ?

Either way I am suspecting it can probably be passed from uncle to nephew.


Not everyones family operated the same way yours does carantoc.

Ive heard all about your christmas dinners and uncle friendly friendly

You pass all sorts of things between eachother.

Presents, peas more peas

Whats with all the damn peas?!? Are you the mendels from austria?!

You seem to know so much about genetics
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

18 Jul 2019 9:04pm
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Harrow said..

Shanty said..
I am positive that sharks kill more than 1 person a year. Probably one every couple months in Australia alone.
Regards,
Mick


In Australia it's horses, cows, dogs, kangaroos, with sharks and bees tying for 5th place. Snakes, crocs and emus take out 7th, 8th and 9th place. A few of these are due to traffic accidents, nevertheless they are the cause of human fatalities, whether they eat you or come through your windscreen at 110 kph.


A friend of mine , friend died when a horse came through the windscreen.
He was in the car when it happened
myusernam
myusernam

QLD

6154 posts

18 Jul 2019 9:23pm
Try surfing late in the afternoon or early evening everyday at a sharky spot then (like fraser island or cactus or some of the renowned dodgy places) and see how u go. The odds are way more likely tjan those stats might suggest
Shanty
Shanty

QLD

487 posts

18 Jul 2019 9:27pm
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myusernam said..
Try surfing late in the afternoon or early evening everyday at a sharky spot then (like fraser island or cactus or some of the renowned dodgy places) and see how u go. The odds are way more likely tjan those stats might suggest


There are so many stories of the old fisherman catching massive sharks on chain. Near Cape Moreton. Very dodgy spot. $100 you will be eaten if you surf the Moreton island surf beach for 6 hours 8pm - 2am and survive.
tired
tired

137 posts

18 Jul 2019 7:28pm
Google the WW11 yank warship Indianapolis,
Specially those who think sharks are really just misunderstood leatherskinned puppies with a un- deserved reputation for munching on unfortunate humans
Tonz
Tonz

523 posts

18 Jul 2019 7:40pm
who you paying if I am dead from sharky bite
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