After two years of chest pain, and multiple unanswered calls and emails to the hospital, I finally got a response, I finally got written recognition that they injured me. The wording goes something along the lines of Dear Joe, sorry about your injury but we literally don't give a **** and we sincerely hope you just shut up. And that's what will happen but common courtesy would have had that letter delivered over a year ago.

The official data or their science put another way..... the adverse effects were something like point zero, zero zero something.

Yet there are around 140 000 reports to the Australian TGA database - with around ten percent of harm only being reported.

Now 140 000 as a percentage of a million is 14 percent.

Have not done the figure for the 26 million or so in Australia but there comes a point where it should become crystal clear we were lied t about the data / science..

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Pcdefender said..
The official data or their science put another way..... the adverse effects were something like point zero, zero zero something.

Yet there are around 140 000 reports to the Australian TGA database - with around ten percent of harm only being reported.

Now 140 000 as a percentage of a million is 14 percent.

Have not done the figure for the 26 million or so in Australia but there comes a point where it should become crystal clear we were lied t about the data / science..

Try working it out by how many adverse events were reported for all of the doses of COVID vaccine administered.

It works out like this
139,567 reports divided by 68,744,423 vaccine doses.

Multiply that by 100 to get it expressed as a percentage.

Approximately 0.2% of COVID vaccine doses resulted in an adverse event report.

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psychojoe said..
After two years of chest pain, and multiple unanswered calls and emails to the hospital, I finally got a response, I finally got written recognition that they injured me. The wording goes something along the lines of Dear Joe, sorry about your injury but we literally don't give a **** and we sincerely hope you just shut up. And that's what will happen but common courtesy would have had that letter delivered over a year ago.

Seems like a weak response from them.

Are you able to take this as evidence to support compensation claims?

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D3 said..
Try working it out by how many adverse events were reported for all of the doses of COVID vaccine administered.

It works out like this
139,567 reports divided by 68,744,423 vaccine doses.

Multiply that by 100 to get it expressed as a percentage.

Approximately 0.2% of COVID vaccine doses resulted in an adverse event report.

If you want to know what the percentage of people in Australia who were harmed by them then you divide the reported injury figure by the number of Australiands say 20 million who took the shots.

It is nothing like a fifth of single. percent.

Most adult Australians know someone or many who have been harmed by them.

A ballpark figure i would estimate somewhere around five percent or one in twenty.

Even the strongest believer in their science must surely be now starting to realize the emperor has no clothes.

and you ain't seen nothing yet

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theDoctor said..

and you ain't seen nothing yet

You underestimate just how much in denial most are.

Then there's Stockholm Syndrome.

Then of course we have sheer stupidity.

Just look at the number of people who cross a pedestrian crossing while glued to their smartphone.

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psychojoe said..
After two years of chest pain, and multiple unanswered calls and emails to the hospital, I finally got a response, I finally got written recognition that they injured me. The wording goes something along the lines of Dear Joe, sorry about your injury but we literally don't give a **** and we sincerely hope you just shut up. And that's what will happen but common courtesy would have had that letter delivered over a year ago.

Seems like a weak response from them.

Are you able to take this as evidence to support compensation claims?

Thanks. It was nothing short of pathetic.

I could but I won't. The law compensates rape victims to the tune of less than $10,000. The lawyers asked for over $100,000 to take this to trial. Those ends won't be meeting anytime soon.
I got what I was waiting for, which is essentially a confession that the Sponsor has no interest in the injuries they cause, no effort was made to add my circumstance to consideration for contraindication. Moving forward, the discomfort endures but that's closure for me, finally.

Try a 3 day fast or longer. Heard its the best treatment for removing the toxicity from your body.

The body has a remarkable ability to heal given the tools.

I know a 53 year old woman who around 2 years started eating organic food only.

Lets just say the difference in her size and shape is quite remarkable.

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Pcdefender said..
Try a 3 day fast or longer. Heard its the best treatment for removing the toxicity from your body.

Yeah, if that doesn't work, try a lemon detox.

It has no scientific basis, but it has lemons.

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D3 said..

psychojoe said..
After two years of chest pain, and multiple unanswered calls and emails to the hospital, I finally got a response, I finally got written recognition that they injured me. The wording goes something along the lines of Dear Joe, sorry about your injury but we literally don't give a **** and we sincerely hope you just shut up. And that's what will happen but common courtesy would have had that letter delivered over a year ago.

Seems like a weak response from them.

Are you able to take this as evidence to support compensation claims?

Thanks. It was nothing short of pathetic.

I could but I won't. The law compensates rape victims to the tune of less than $10,000. The lawyers asked for over $100,000 to take this to trial. Those ends won't be meeting anytime soon.
I got what I was waiting for, which is essentially a confession that the Sponsor has no interest in the injuries they cause, no effort was made to add my circumstance to consideration for contraindication. Moving forward, the discomfort endures but that's closure for me, finally.

I am surprised that they didn't make you sign an indemnity given that you volunteered for a trial.

Did you have/do you have a condition that could be a contraindication?

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The official data or their science put another way..... the adverse effects were something like point zero, zero zero something.

Yet there are around 140 000 reports to the Australian TGA database - with around ten percent of harm only being reported.

Now 140 000 as a percentage of a million is 14 percent.

Have not done the figure for the 26 million or so in Australia but there comes a point where it should become crystal clear we were lied t about the data / science..

You really have no idea how the adverse events database works.

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D3 said..
Try working it out by how many adverse events were reported for all of the doses of COVID vaccine administered.

It works out like this
139,567 reports divided by 68,744,423 vaccine doses.

Multiply that by 100 to get it expressed as a percentage.

Approximately 0.2% of COVID vaccine doses resulted in an adverse event report.

If you want to know what the percentage of people in Australia who were harmed by them then you divide the reported injury figure by the number of Australiands say 20 million who took the shots.

It is nothing like a fifth of single. percent.

Most adult Australians know someone or many who have been harmed by them.

A ballpark figure i would estimate somewhere around five percent or one in twenty.

Even the strongest believer in their science must surely be now starting to realize the emperor has no clothes.

Everybody I know well has been vaccinated and boosted. I don't know anyone who has had a negative effect. I don't know anyone who has been hospitalised due to covid.

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Pcdefender said..
Try a 3 day fast or longer. Heard its the best treatment for removing the toxicity from your body.

The body has a remarkable ability to heal given the tools.

I know a 53 year old woman who around 2 years started eating organic food only.

Lets just say the difference in her size and shape is quite remarkable.

Try inserting a UV tube and turn it on.

If there is a God i am certain he is not impressed by attempts to deceive.

140 thousand ill effects reported to the Australian Government database is a FACT.

Sure, some report more than one harm so it does not mean 140 000 have been harmed.

Most who suffer are not aware the TGA database even exist so the figure for the number of people harmed in this country is very likely greater than 140 000.

But lets just say every person who has suffered reported it to the database - the 140 000 adverse effects is still a SHOCKING number.

I know many who have suffered.

Many others on this forum are saying the same.

We still do not know what the long term effects remembering its only been two years or so since they were given.

And given under coercion for many despite what the N.Z Premier recently said at a Press Conference.

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D3 said..
Try working it out by how many adverse events were reported for all of the doses of COVID vaccine administered.

It works out like this
139,567 reports divided by 68,744,423 vaccine doses.

Multiply that by 100 to get it expressed as a percentage.

Approximately 0.2% of COVID vaccine doses resulted in an adverse event report.

If you want to know what the percentage of people in Australia who were harmed by them then you divide the reported injury figure by the number of Australiands say 20 million who took the shots.

It is nothing like a fifth of single. percent.

Most adult Australians know someone or many who have been harmed by them.

A ballpark figure i would estimate somewhere around five percent or one in twenty.

Even the strongest believer in their science must surely be now starting to realize the emperor has no clothes.

Using your numbers which you seem to just make up.

140,000/20,000,000 = approximately 0.7%. Reported adverse events after any of their doses.

"The most frequently reported side effects suspected to be associated with the vaccines include headache, muscle pain, fever, fatigue and nausea. Skin reactions at the site of the injection are also common and can include pain, swelling, redness and an itchy rash. These are recognised side effects of vaccination and are usually transient and mild."

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Pcdefender said..
If there is a God i am certain he is not impressed by attempts to deceive.

What does this mean?

"I have tried to kill you all off with a plague and you managed to create a vaccine and most of you survived.

That's okay, but I do have issues with your deceptive recording of events on the TGA database."

Seriously? Applying logic like this makes no sense other than trying to paint the person mentioning "God" as more righteous.

If I were a supreme entity watching this, I would be impressed that you finally managed to help yourselves, or pissed that you managed to avoid my clever plan.

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FormulaNova said..
..."I have tried to kill you all off with a plague ...

eh ?

does God work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology ?

oooooh I see where ya coming from... yeah, that's right it was the bats.....yeah, the bats....

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Pcdefender said..
If there is a God i am certain he is not impressed by attempts to deceive.

140 thousand ill effects reported to the Australian Government database is a FACT.

Sure, some report more than one harm so it does not mean 140 000 have been harmed.

Most who suffer are not aware the TGA database even exist so the figure for the number of people harmed in this country is very likely greater than 140 000.

But lets just say every person who has suffered reported it to the database - the 140 000 adverse effects is still a SHOCKING number.

I know many who have suffered.

Many others on this forum are saying the same.

We still do not know what the long term effects remembering its only been two years or so since they were given.

And given under coercion for many despite what the N.Z Premier recently said at a Press Conference.

Well given that you are an expert on the TGA database, you will have read the following on their adverse event report web page.

Causality
Adverse event reports that we receive reflect the observations of the people submitting them.

Adverse events are suspected of being related to a medicine, but this relationship is usually not certain - the symptom may be related to an underlying illness or to other factors.

There might be no relationship between the adverse event and the medicine. The symptoms may instead have occurred coincidentally.

Sometimes the adverse event may have been caused by the other ingredients in the medicine such as an excipient ingredient.

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Pcdefender said..
Try a 3 day fast or longer. Heard its the best treatment for removing the toxicity from your body.

The body has a remarkable ability to heal given the tools.

I know a 53 year old woman who around 2 years started eating organic food only.

Lets just say the difference in her size and shape is quite remarkable.

Thanks PC, I've been wanting to try a 72 hour fast for quite a while, at my weight it would do more harm than good, hopefully in January I'll weigh enough to try it.

Everyone who is still believing that the vaccines work against airborne viruses go and get your fifth one straight away! Please do us all a favour. Try your hardest to find some old removed from market AstraZeneca vaccines. And remember "we are all in this together"



Also remember when you've had your health ruined by one that you'll be faced to pay all medical costs yourself, you'll have medically trained doctors who won't believe you in the beginning that your suffering but 2 years later they'll apologise and say "sorry we should of taken it more seriously in the beginning to lessen the damage". The immunologist professor will say " sorry everyone was lied to, you can't stop the spread of airborne virus with a vaccine. We tried telling the powers that be that information and they wouldn't listen"
Those powers that be who have all magically resigned. Funny video below.
www.instagram.com/reel/CyHKefONIdO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

stay safe and effective everyone

Boosted, travelling internationally, no side effects, no covid.

Boosted.........you mean you've not had another toxic direct injection.

No one i know who refused the shot got sick from the rebranded flu.

This thread isn't about you, Remery. Start your own.

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remery said..
Boosted, travelling internationally, no side effects, no covid.

Boosting your "carbon footprint" as well.

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psychojoe said..
This thread isn't about you, Remery. Start your own.

This is a relatively open forum, but I think there was a directive that we not talk about vaccines, but if you want a one-sided narrative, maybe you and PM33 can have a private chat?

Edit: Didn't you leave this forum a few weeks ago? At the time I thought you might be away for longer than 10mins.

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FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..
This thread isn't about you, Remery. Start your own.

This is a relatively open forum, but I think there was a directive that we not talk about vaccines, but if you want a one-sided narrative, maybe you and PM33 can have a private chat?

Edit: Didn't you leave this forum a few weeks ago? At the time I thought you might be away for longer than 10mins.

Sorry let's not talk about them. Let's also not talk about excess deaths

Lets resign like nothing happened at all so it can all be done again.

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Sorry let's not talk about them. Let's also not talk about excess deaths

Lets resign like nothing happened at all so it can all be done again.

Take a few minutes and explain to me in steps and point-form exactly how you would have handled this pandemic.

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Take a few minutes and explain to me in steps and point-form exactly how you would have handled this pandemic.

What again ? Be-jeezeus .. well, for the umpteenth time of you asking :

Like the pandemic committee said in their plans they had spent decades developing and then refining and adapting : Suppress locally as required so the medical system can cope and wait for natural herd immunity.

Not like the pollies did when they rejected those plans in a 2 second thought bubble because they beLIEved they needed to out-woke Jacinta in the daily press conferences: eliminate, exterminate-exterminate.... umm, bugger that means lockdown, um, stumble, search for a way out, can't now unlockdown for no reason...um...., oh yeah, proclaim the vaccine, THE VACCINE, when it comes it will solve everything (even though one hasn't been proven yet) and then refuse to accept anything but the vaccine will be the answer, then set arbitrary vaccination targets as a political way out of lockdown because there is no other politically palatable way out of lockdown.

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FormulaNova said..
Take a few minutes and explain to me

Hey, here's an idea, why don't you take a few minutes to listen, mate.

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Carantoc said..
What again ? Be-jeezeus .. well, for the umpteenth time of you asking :

Like the pandemic committee said in their plans they had spent decades developing and then refining and adapting : Suppress locally as required so the medical system can cope and wait for natural herd immunity.

Not like the pollies did when they rejected those plans in a 2 second thought bubble because they beLIEved they needed to out-woke Jacinta in the daily press conferences: eliminate, exterminate-exterminate.... umm, bugger that means lockdown, um, stumble, search for a way out, can't now unlockdown for no reason...um...., oh yeah, proclaim the vaccine, THE VACCINE, when it comes it will solve everything (even though one hasn't been proven yet) and then refuse to accept anything but the vaccine will be the answer, then set arbitrary vaccination targets as a political way out of lockdown because there is no other politically palatable way out of lockdown.

Hey, here's an idea, why don't you take a few minutes to listen, mate.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

The difference between FormulaNova and a computer is: You only have to punch information into a computer once!

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Carantoc said..
What again ? Be-jeezeus .. well, for the umpteenth time of you asking :

Like the pandemic committee said in their plans they had spent decades developing and then refining and adapting : Suppress locally as required so the medical system can cope and wait for natural herd immunity.

Not like the pollies did when they rejected those plans in a 2 second thought bubble because they beLIEved they needed to out-woke Jacinta in the daily press conferences: eliminate, exterminate-exterminate.... umm, bugger that means lockdown, um, stumble, search for a way out, can't now unlockdown for no reason...um...., oh yeah, proclaim the vaccine, THE VACCINE, when it comes it will solve everything (even though one hasn't been proven yet) and then refuse to accept anything but the vaccine will be the answer, then set arbitrary vaccination targets as a political way out of lockdown because there is no other politically palatable way out of lockdown.

Hey, here's an idea, why don't you take a few minutes to listen, mate.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

The difference between FormulaNova and a computer is: You only have to punch information into a computer once!

I can recognise another smartarse when I see/read one . You have only quoted this knowing that I am filtering Carantoc out. Gee thanks! I would have missed that spec of wisdom unless you drew my attention to it. I feel so drained right now.

But I didn't read it, I skimmed it anyway as it will be nothing new.

Where is OK's response to my question. It's one thing to complain about something but another to not do anything about it. Just like I don't like reading Carantoc's post so I filter him out. No one gets hurt and the rest of the world is better off (from reading more of my posts most likely.)

Thanks MSN!!

P.S. I remember when you tried that line about a computer before and I stole the punch line. Better material please