A while back we had one of those steel braided water lines in the bathroom burst, luckily we were home at the time and shut the water off before it did any damage.

I quizzed a plumber mate about it who told me we were just unlucky it burst, since then though we have heard some horror story's about this happening when no one's home and causing massive damage.

Has anyone else had this happen? Do these lines need to replaced after a certain time?

Happened in my dental surgery years ago - all I can say is thank god for the insurance.

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goofy said..
A while back we had one of those steel braided water lines in the bathroom burst, luckily we were home at the time and shut the water off before it did any damage.

I quizzed a plumber mate about it who told me we were just unlucky it burst, since then though we have heard some horror story's about this happening when no one's home and causing massive damage.

Has anyone else had this happen? Do these lines need to replaced after a certain time?

They come with stickers that say they are only guaranteed for 5 or 10 years. Gone are the days when plumbers would hook up something with copper when they could use these hoses.

Sadly its pretty hard to go without them as most mixers use them.

I think iv heard of a devise that goes inline near your meter, if it detects a lot of water for a set time (eg longer to fill a bath) it cuts the flow.

Yeah, I was thinking of getting them replacing with proper copper lines but it's probably not practical as there's so many.

Just goggled the inline cut outs, could be worthwhile.

I expect that insurance companies will not honour claims if out side warranty and not professionally installed.
A big rip off to make plumbing installations easy with potentially high damage costs particularly in home units.

I've heard plumbers recommend changing your washing machine hoses every 3 years to be sure.

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warwickl said..
I expect that insurance companies will not honour claims if out side warranty and not professionally installed.
A big rip off to make plumbing installations easy with potentially high damage costs particularly in home units.

I can see both sides of this. If a plumber built a connection out of copper, the consumer might turn around and ask why he couldn't have done it cheaper with a $10 hooker hose, or even if another plumber quoted to use a hose instead.

My house had a flick-mixer plumber with 1/4" copper. You don't see that anymore and I think you would even struggle to get any that still have that option.

I wonder about the use of plastic/PEX plumbing. Same story. In theory it lasts as long as copper, but it is quicker to install and therefore cheaper, but what if it doesn't last as long?

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Buster fin said..
I've heard plumbers recommend changing your washing machine hoses every 3 years to be sure.

I know these hoses are meant to be replaced every 5 or 10 too, but sadly I think I have gone through washing machines faster than that, which is a worry.

i had one bust also, kitchen skink mixer. ****ed a lot of electrical devices i had in that cuboard. lucky i was home so not too much damage. i said at the time, im gonna replace these every 5 years. that was7 years ago.... havent thought of it since, so thanks for the reminder.

I had one burst. I was also home at the time, but not quick enough to salvage the vanity which soaked up the water and needed to be replaced. The hose was probably about 5 yrs old. Very frustrating.

we used to turn the water off when we went away. our bosch dishwasher has a device on the cannection that stops the water if the hose bursts. but heah not just hoses but dishwashers etc.

Just had one go on the kitchen tap .

Work colleague in Brissy had one burst on the weekend. He was away for the day.....5000 litres of water through his house.

This is starting to make Decrepit's mysterious blue deposits seem like a walk in the park.

Unless a "braided hose burst" is a euphemism associated with activities related to father's day and all this discussion about the resulting pain, suffering and exorbitant cost is about something other than actual property damage.

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Carantoc said..
Let's talk about Covid.

This is starting to make Decrepit's mysterious blue deposits seem like a walk in the park.

Unless a "braided hose burst" is a euphemism associated with activities related to father's day and all this discussion about the resulting pain, suffering and exorbitant cost is about something other than actual property damage.

Yours is braided?

Replace at a maximum of 10 years. I've seen dozens go but rarely ever replaced any before 10 years.

I had a plumber install these in 2017 but only in kitchen and vanity (not washing machine or toilet). Not sure if they will work . Initially they kept going off and they were a pain to reset. Over last few years they have never gone off.
plumbingconnection.com.au/flood-stopper/

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Gboots said..
I had a plumber install these in 2017 but only in kitchen and vanity (not washing machine or toilet). Not sure if they will work . Initially they kept going off and they were a pain to reset. Over last few years they have never gone off.
plumbingconnection.com.au/flood-stopper/

I had my kitchen ruined once from the leaking connection on the flood stopper. It was dripping so slowly that the timber was soaking it up, so we didn't see any leaking water until one day the drawers wouldn't slide out.

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Gboots said..
I had a plumber install these in 2017 but only in kitchen and vanity (not washing machine or toilet). Not sure if they will work . Initially they kept going off and they were a pain to reset. Over last few years they have never gone off.
plumbingconnection.com.au/flood-stopper/

Bunnings now sell something similar. I bought one yesterday after reading this thread and being unsure about the one hose in this house I haven't replaced. (Actually, I just checked. The thing I bought is a hose with an insert in it. I should connect it up and try it out.)

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FormulaNova said..

Gboots said..
I had a plumber install these in 2017 but only in kitchen and vanity (not washing machine or toilet). Not sure if they will work . Initially they kept going off and they were a pain to reset. Over last few years they have never gone off.
plumbingconnection.com.au/flood-stopper/

Bunnings now sell something similar. I bought one yesterday after reading this thread and being unsure about the one hose in this house I haven't replaced. (Actually, I just checked. The thing I bought is a hose with an insert in it. I should connect it up and try it out.)

Have you got a link for it? Googled but couldn't find it.

This one, but I think the one I bought was 450 or 600mm.

www.bunnings.com.au/boston-300mm-burst-guard-plus-water-connector_p0294954

"As we know the biggest problems with flexi hoses is damage prior to or during installation. If the flexi hose is damaged due to it being kinked, stretched or twisted, or even if the sleeve has started to corrode, this introduces a weak point into the hose and its integrity is compromised from that point."

www.ambrosebuilding.com.au/insurance-news/why-flexi-hoses-burst-while-youre-not-home/

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FormulaNova said..
...I bought one yesterday after reading this thread and being unsure ...

You do seem to be very easily influenced by what you read on the internet.

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Transfers can be made by Western Union.

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Carantoc said..

FormulaNova said..
...I bought one yesterday after reading this thread and being unsure ...

You do seem to be very easily influenced by what you read on the internet.

An Influencer once said..

Your life will be greatly improved by making regular charitable donations to St Carantoc.

Transfers can be made by Western Union.

Appearances are not what they seem St Carantoc. I am not 'easily influenced by things on the internet' (unless its Youtube).

After reading about this problem on the internet, I looked at the hose. Then went to the big green shed, and identified that they seem to have a hose that is meant to solve the problem and reasonably priced.

I then felt that it was a scam created by Bunnings to make us all install these hoses, and then 2 years from now, being rushed out for emergency use only, that they would all break at the same time. I am not that easily fooled.

I decided not to use one, but then when leaving Bunnings I was stopped by a person that insisted that I buy one and fit it and then tell others to do the same.

I did find an alternative called I've-a-flex-one, which I am sure works even better, but the government wont let me use it.

P.S. transfer has now been made. I hope you enjoy the new Skoda.

While your taking the time to change the flexi hose, whack in a small stop tap at the same time.
handy for changing easily next time or turning off house points while keeping retic on while away ( and not coming home to a flooded house)

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slipperyduck said..
While your taking the time to change the flexi hose, whack in a small stop tap at the same time.
handy for changing easily next time or turning off house points while keeping retic on while away ( and not coming home to a flooded house)

I think in most cases a stopcock would already be fitted, yes? I know with mixer taps you are required to have one, and I suspect toilet cisterns mostly have them if able to be fitted.