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doggie
doggie
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22 Jul 2010 8:47am
If a boxing match only goes for 30sec, should the boxers get their fee?

Last nights match was a farce, Danny Green should have only got his aperance fee and the other bloke should have got nothing IMO. Green didnt even touch him, what a joke!!!
SMG
SMG
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SMG SMG
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22 Jul 2010 11:06am
Green said...

"Paul Briggs ain't getting paid a cent. I don't blame each and every one of you guys in here for being filthy."
"He ain't getting paid guys, I'm very sorry. I can't do anything more."


I wonder if he has the power to hold back Briggs' $$?
doggie
doggie
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22 Jul 2010 9:24am
Wouldnt the promoter pay? Or not?
Trant
Trant
NSW
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22 Jul 2010 11:40am
doggie said...

Wouldnt the promoter pay? Or not?


I think Danny Green's company is the promoter.
mkseven
mkseven
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22 Jul 2010 12:57pm
it's disappointing to see brigg's brought to that (he can actually fight very well). Maybe he's been hitting the drugs a bit hard, maybe he was told to take a dive.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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22 Jul 2010 11:36am
If you are going to "take a dive", at least cop one to the face and make it look like it might have been able to knock you down
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
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22 Jul 2010 11:53am
I am confused...did this guy not get touched at all?
or what you mean is that Green only tapped him and he went down?

A lawyer guy said today that Brigg's has to be paid...unless there is a special clause in his contract....and people will not legally get their money back unless the green machine offer it.

You would think mr big danny green would have made sure this guy could stand a round or 2....to me he is just an idiot for nor making sure of this..
mkseven
mkseven
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22 Jul 2010 2:03pm
grumplestiltskin said...

If you are going to "take a dive", at least cop one to the face and make it look like it might have been able to knock you down


Unless you want to make it known you had to take a dive.
busterwa
busterwa
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22 Jul 2010 12:50pm
Boxing is overrated now with UFC The last two green fights have been apauling alomost a money grab via matchfixing and corruption.
One would have to look at the idiots who actuolly support and encourage this.
That briggs is used to being kicked in the head in the octogon (baseball bat kicks) and still stands so how the hell would he go down after 30 second with gloves?
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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22 Jul 2010 1:03pm
I've always liked Danny Green, but just last week on ABC Perth, I listened to him bag the NSW boxing federation etc etc at length and go on and on about how he would not be fighting the bloke if he wasn't fit to fight and stood a chance of winning.

Well that's a lot of egg and BS onya face Danny. Don't go criticising the bloke for taking a dive when you new full well that you were allowing a bloke 3kgs over the limit and 3 yrs past his heyday to get in the ring so YOUR company could make a profit from a meaningless facsimile of a title defence.

Whilst Danny has been stooged by the boxing world before, the buck stops with Danny on this one. His company should make at least a 50% refund I reckon.
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
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22 Jul 2010 6:04pm
The news over here is that Centrebet closed the book early on this one
Due to large amounts being plunged on a 1st round knockout
Call this coincidence , or corruption , I personally dont think there are
that many good judges of boxing whod be confident of dropping a wad on a
1st round knockout Particularly where Paul briggs is concerned
Round 1 Generally regarded as the feeling out round .
This is a farce of Don king proportions
Boxing in this country is poorer for the experience
What a circus
What has Danny green gotta do to get a decent fight opponent
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
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22 Jul 2010 4:43pm
martman said...

The news over here is that Centrebet closed the book early on this one
Due to large amounts being plunged on a 1st round knockout
Call this coincidence , or corruption , I personally dont think there are
that many good judges of boxing whod be confident of dropping a wad on a
1st round knockout Particularly where Paul briggs is concerned
Round 1 Generally regarded as the feeling out round .
This is a farce of Don king proportions
Boxing in this country is poorer for the experience
What a circus
What has Danny green gotta do to get a decent fight opponent




Take offers from all serious contenders - not hand pick stooges and has-beens?

Not that Danny's previous fight with Roy wouldn't have been seen as legit going into the fight.. not so sure after the fight tho?


I reckon this bloke might have a real crack..



Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
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22 Jul 2010 7:36pm
getfunky said...

martman said...

The news over here is that Centrebet closed the book early on this one
Due to large amounts being plunged on a 1st round knockout
Call this coincidence , or corruption , I personally dont think there are
that many good judges of boxing whod be confident of dropping a wad on a
1st round knockout Particularly where Paul briggs is concerned
Round 1 Generally regarded as the feeling out round .
This is a farce of Don king proportions
Boxing in this country is poorer for the experience
What a circus
What has Danny green gotta do to get a decent fight opponent




Take offers from all serious contenders - not hand pick stooges and has-beens?

Not that Danny's previous fight with Roy wouldn't have been seen as legit going into the fight.. not so sure after the fight tho?


I reckon this bloke might have a real crack..






Yeah great and Guy ritchie could promote the fight
Madonna could hold up the cards for each round
They could fall through a false balsa wood ceiling and jump up and atart boxing
what an entry
Appolo creed could be the ring announcer and Danny Green could have
ROCKY in his corner the Hollywood one , not his chihuawawa ,
And the esteemed judges could be
Anthony mundine , Paul briggs , and Lester ellis
Stage the fight in the caymans and ensure the Hollywood A list are there
to ensure international coverage
Oh and one more thing , no preliminaries just a bunch of streetfighters
Fight club style with a guest appearance by Brad pitt
Wow where can I bet on that Cant wait


Body double please The other guy not Danny
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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22 Jul 2010 7:55pm
Briggs is a very real contender. There is something more behind this, even if he wasn't fit you dont fall to a glancing hit like that. Brigg's has had some lows in his life til now, this is definitely a new one.

I don't think paul has done much mma. Nathan was a K1 champion. Paul did Muay Thai- not octagon, but it ain't boxing either- he boxes like a kickboxer, hard to match a boxer on his own terms. All that indicates is the guy should be able to take some punishment and he has focused on boxing for long enough now to be technically good and he's proved that in the past with Adamek.

I don't follow/watch any of it though, just kickboxed when paul & nathan were at the top of their games so i've liked their handywork for a while.
teatrea
teatrea
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22 Jul 2010 10:05pm
green and mundine have been conning the public for a few years now , looking for easy pay days , this was another.yet the blokes who are actually real contenders like Vic and Katsidis get no media coverage.What a joke.
saltiest1
saltiest1
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22 Jul 2010 10:12pm
i think you need to take a closer look at the punch and compression on the neck / spine.
teatrea
teatrea
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22 Jul 2010 10:19pm
saltiest1 said...

i think you need to take a closer look at the punch and compression on the neck / spine.


Pffft your kidding.Puch their was no punch , it was a glance of the top of the head.Funny how their was a massive betting splurge on a first round knockout.Funny how the bloke chooses to fight a guy who hasnt been in the ring for more than two years.And states he would like to fight Brock Lesner m please.

His next fight will be with Joe Bugner or Warrick Capper.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
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23 Jul 2010 11:02am
teatrea said...

saltiest1 said...

i think you need to take a closer look at the punch and compression on the neck / spine.


Pffft your kidding.Puch their was no punch , it was a glance of the top of the head.Funny how their was a massive betting splurge on a first round knockout.Funny how the bloke chooses to fight a guy who hasnt been in the ring for more than two years.And states he would like to fight Brock Lesner m please.

His next fight will be with Joe Bugner or Warrick Capper.




Don't forget Lester Ellis (ay Martman).

Quality contenders, all of em' - if you believe a boxing promoter.
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
NSW, 155 posts
23 Jul 2010 5:51pm
Well getfunky Maybe troy waters then , He and lopsided lester both picked up an easy payday when knocked down by noneother than THE MAN yoohoo mundine
Troy stood like a post waiting for the chop $$
As well meaning as Lester may have been he like anyone else knew what waited for him $$
Why would Danny green bother putting in the work and hours of training and put his rep on the line only to be labelled a fight fixer or worse
Too much sceptisism exists for the honest boxer when something as obvious as this happens
Paul Brigggs might go away now and leave it to the blokes that are Fair dinkum
This may be a throw away society but Reputations are too valuable an asset to
risk
It is one thing that you get to keep how good or bad it may be
Danny Green has worked too hard to risk his on this
If anyone was taken advantage of its Green
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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23 Jul 2010 4:26pm
Sorry Martman but I can't see how Danny was taken advantage of?

His camp pushed all the way fro the fight and were the ones who stood (ironic term) to gain the most $$. Instead of accepting the NSW ruling it was pushed through over here in Perf (no doubt the strength of local popularity helped smoove the process) to ensure a profit was turned.

Seriously - as if Danny's camp didn't know the shocking mental and physical condition Briggs is in?? If they didn't know then they should be flipping burgers for a living.

I heard Danny (repeatedly) say on radio last week that he garaunteed that Briggs was fit and that he assured everyone that the fight was genuine and that he would not go ahead with it if it wasn't.

He really did go on like a stuck record and was scathing (to the point I thought he may have been worrying his lawyer) of the NSW officials that knocked back the fight. He also arrogantly belittled the process and officials - who we all now know were 100% correct.

Now there is a lot of smoke and mirrors in Boxing, but if you are going to publicly stake your rep on the line and confidently use terms like garauntee, as Danny did, then you better be damn sure you are not just sprouting rhetorical BS. Alternatively, be prepared to back up your 'garauntees' financially or kiss your rep goodbye.

No one should make money out of that fight.
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
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23 Jul 2010 6:47pm
''Briggsy first came to me and asked about a fight after the Roy jones junior win .
Then after Manny siaca . Ive always thought Australia wanted to see two bangers go at it so i was yeah lets go . We had been told by Billy hussein that Briggs was knocking blokes out sparring . Then there was footage on Fox , Billy and Jeff Fenech saying how Briggs punches harder than me , How he,s hitting harder than ever before , going through more than a dozen sparring partners ''
Set up
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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23 Jul 2010 5:01pm
Umm.. I wouldn't think a proffessional boxing camp would be relying on Sports Tonight grabs for their inside info would you?

Briggs probably had a 1 in 3 chance of knocking down a sparring partner. All he had to do was connect with one of the 3 hazy figures he could see before him.

One look at the bloke on the scales and Danny's camp knew this would be easy money - hence allowing him to exceed the limit by 3kgs. Absolutely NO WAY would the Green camp have allowed an opponent with a decent chance to be 3 kgs over him.

EDIT: And just to emulate Danny and repeat myself He (Danny) garaunteed everything was kosha and that the NSW blokes didn't know up from down. I don't recall Danny stating Jeff - who now hates me guts - reckons Briggs is hitting harder than ever etc etc.

Perhaps if the sight of $$ wasn't clouding his judgement (which is the minimum you could accuse the Green camp of) then he may even have been wise enough to use the other party's words for traction instead of placing his rep on the line, of his own choice.

Nope all he mentioned again and again was that he (Danny) and his camp were completely sure Briggs was fit and the he (Danny) garaunteed the fight was fair.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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23 Jul 2010 5:34pm
crooks the whole lot of them.
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
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23 Jul 2010 7:39pm
If I recall the topic was The plunge on a first round knockout
Australya wide , numerous betting agencies closing their markets as early
as 10 on the day of the fight , in a 2 hour period the odds came into $1.07
from $11,10 this is a sting that got out of hand ( loose lips and all that )
There should be an inquiry into this crap if boxing Australya expect fight fans to take boxing seriously
Boxing NSW almost killed the sport off over here 20 years ago probably part of the reason theres a shortage of quality cattle today
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
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23 Jul 2010 5:49pm
Racing ferrets has more cred. Probably wouldn't be wise to wear baggy boxing dacks tho!
choco
choco
SA
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23 Jul 2010 7:20pm
martman said...

If I recall the topic was The plunge on a first round knockout
Australya wide , numerous betting agencies closing their markets as early
as 10 on the day of the fight , in a 2 hour period the odds came into $1.07
from $11,10 this is a sting that got out of hand ( loose lips and all that )
There should be an inquiry into this crap if boxing Australya expect fight fans to take boxing seriously
Boxing NSW almost killed the sport off over here 20 years ago probably part of the reason theres a shortage of quality cattle today


I wouldn't bet on any sport especially in Austrailer
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
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23 Jul 2010 8:01pm
getfunky said...

Racing ferrets has more cred. Probably wouldn't be wise to wear baggy boxing dacks tho!


LOL

Is MMA to boxing what 20/20 is to one dayers
Greenroom
Greenroom
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23 Jul 2010 10:00pm
UFC!!! Its real
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