Cup day I was riding the train back home after work and that Nyoongar (she said she was?) boarded 1/2 way in she was on something (ice? jungle juice? VB ) and was very aggressive.
She started to call a guy a white c^nt, and told him she would kick him bad before the end of the ride, the poor guy left the train at the following station........ she then started to abuse a young Maori chick calling her a fat bitch, and making comments that I would not repeat here .
She had another go at an Asian looking guy asking him what he was and calling him a Chinese c^nt.The carriage was getting close to empty and I had to go to the last station, she was getting more aggressive by the minute.
Was thinking: what would I do if she attacked me? I am not a small bloke and I can defend myself even I would prefer to defuse the "tension "if could.
What is the rule of engagement? She was very tall and well built in a muscular way. She must have been full of ice. So if she had thrown the first punch could a bloke retaliate........ she was (kind of) a woman.
What wold you do if in that situation and it escalated to a punching feast?
She kept going on and ignored me till the end of the ride, at the terminus the transport police took care of her.

Just move carriages its easier

^^^ not really, in Perth they attach 2 trains of 3 carriages each and it is one long space with no separations!
I was close to the end of the area and she still had a long way to get to me! Kept my head down not making eye contact!

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Tux said..
Just move carriages its easier

Why should you have to do that?

The trains in the old days were better, you could open the doors & get rid of said problem

I used to work in Northbridge & copped abuse regularly in the middle of the day from similar so called people.
The tourists didn't know what to make of it, screaming abuse at any white person, really good for tourism

Very one sided system

I dare any white person to go in public transport and call someone a back c^nt. You'll be charged and most probabely fine heavily. No why is it ok for for a black person to do so?
She was screaming "I am a Noongars and what the f^ck are ya?" Was going to say and you surely make your folks proud........ but chose to shut up instead

midland or armadale line?

Amazing enough none of them.... was Joondalup! She must have boarded the wrong train!

Train line snobbery detected above

This sort of problem happens in all lines. I wouldn't start however I would defend myself physically if required and sort out w police later.
Better to keep your nose/teeth/eyes intact.

The problem I see is that she was preying on individuals that she knew wouldn't return animosity to her, typical bully / coward behaviour.

It was disgusting and most unacceptable that she carried on like that. She was probably pissed out of her f-king head, or stoned on ICE. Yes, certain groups of people do hold grudges and falsely believed they are entitled to behave badly in public. You could have had, if you have the right gear such as a mobile phone, record the drama. I am sure the law wants to know about it.

But then, on the other hand, isn't there an elected group of white folks openly bad-mouthing others ? These groups now enjoy the parliamentary privilege to said whatever they wished to said. Who is more entitled ? You tell me.

Hadn't boarded the wrong train, was just on her way to some ripe picking grounds to feed her need.

Jeez felix. You missed the opportunity to post the vid of it in the funny vid thread. Better luck next time.

Should of hit her up for a painting for lee over at abo art thread

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novetti said...
Train line snobbery detected above

I caught a train once.

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Pugwash said..

novetti said...
Train line snobbery detected above

I caught a train once.

How many times did they throw it?

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AUS 808 said..

Tux said..
Just move carriages its easier

Why should you have to do that?

The trains in the old days were better, you could open the doors & get rid of said problem

I used to work in Northbridge & copped abuse regularly in the middle of the day from similar so called people.
The tourists didn't know what to make of it, screaming abuse at any white person, really good for tourism

Very one sided system

So you don't end up

A. Beaten and in hospital
B. In jail on assault charges
C. On a current affair being called a racist

...not condoning her behavoiur but sometimes its easier to be the water not the rock

You would need tact, witnesses and use of only your open palms IF you were going to remove her from the situation and even then only if there was a threat of violence.
I'd politely ask her to move on in a way that wasn't asking her to do so but only after the police were called. Mind you it helps if you say "I think I may have seen a gun somewhere in the situation" they'll be there in a flash.

I doubt she would have a go. People with that mentality can sense who to have a go and who not to have a go at. Women and a Chinese guy. She's not going to try and intimidate someone who won't be intimidated.

These are the text book answers. Although my approach is you don't give an idiot a microphone. So move away and pay no attention.
Verbal attack - verbally diffuse
Physical attack - evade and separation
Serious physical attack (life threatening) - defend and immobilise. Emergency services have to deal with this drug affected **** all the time. Unfortunately it's creeping into the transport and service industries as well.
There is a stock standard pose that puts you in a position of defensive attack. Usually a loud verbal command before any physical action is taken. ie "STOP" "GET BACK". If you search the Internet you should find some.

You did the right thing by not taking advantage of her intoxicated state. Just because she is drunk doesn't mean she actually wants to have sex with you.

Drunks are not thinking clearly and can't be deemed responsible for their actions. If you take advantage of them it could be rape. Unless you are drunk too I guess, because then you aren't thinking clearly either and also can't be deemed responsible for your actions. Unless you're driving a car. ...hang on a minute.


I should have stopped at the joke.

Thought about taking a vid........ but was a bit concern that could have aggravated her if she had noticed.
Few month ago had a go at 2 wiggers playing loud (c)rap music upsetting a couple of passengers (the lyrics were a bit full on!) specially an older woman that was badly aggressed (verbally).They came down and pulled their heads in.............. Then I thought f^uck.......... hope they will not follow me in the car park and have a go . They left the train before me at my great relief.

Remember, this woman with substance abuse issues and, more than likely, mental health issues too is someone's sister/wife/mother. It's a miserable life.
Having grown up with an alcoholic mother I feel sorry for her and her family.

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KIT33R said..
Remember, this woman with substance abuse issues and, more than likely, mental health issues too is someone's sister/wife/mother. It's a miserable life.
Having grown up with an alcoholic mother I feel sorry for her and her family.

Yes I agree, but in another hand the poor Maori girl she abused is a mother, sister and somebody daughter as well and surely didn't deserved that!

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felixdcat said..

KIT33R said..
Remember, this woman with substance abuse issues and, more than likely, mental health issues too is someone's sister/wife/mother. It's a miserable life.
Having grown up with an alcoholic mother I feel sorry for her and her family.

Yes I agree, but in another hand the poor Maori girl she abused is a mother, sister and somebody daughter as well and surely didn't deserved that!

Yes, so true. I wish there were simple answers to these problems. It effects us all.

my wife had to treat an aboriginal patient one day.
on arrival to helping this lady,she was greeted with....Fark off Migaloo.
arriving home my wife told me the story
we both pissed ourselves

^^^^^^ Classic ^^^^^^

Shoot it with a tranquilliser dart and release it back into the wild.. Far away from civilisation..

Can't stand drunk/drug affected assholes who think they have the right to impose themselves on people minding their own business..

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Remember, this woman with substance abuse issues and, more than likely, mental health issues too is someone's sister/wife/mother. It's a miserable life.

A very sensible comment, KIT33R. Mental health issues and the environment they were brought up in, do play a big part in how such persons behave. Not giving them any excuse though because I also believe that just because you were brought up in an imperfect environment, is not a free ticket to misbehave either.

There was a white woman in her 40's who picked on a French tourist on a bus. She questioned why didn't she speak English like everybody else ! She was filmed by a quick thinking passenger, and was charged and convicted successfully with the evidence provided. She was supposedly suffering from mental health issue too. But then again, many criminals nowadays also use mental health as an excuse to get away with their deeds too.

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Jupiter said...

KIT33R said..
Remember, this woman with substance abuse issues and, more than likely, mental health issues too is someone's sister/wife/mother. It's a miserable life.

A very sensible comment, KIT33R. Mental health issues and the environment they were brought up in, do play a big part in how such persons behave. Not giving them any excuse though because I also believe that just because you were brought up in an imperfect environment, is not a free ticket to misbehave either.

There was a white woman in her 40's who picked on a French tourist on a bus. She questioned why didn't she speak English like everybody else ! She was filmed by a quick thinking passenger, and was charged and convicted successfully with the evidence provided. She was supposedly suffering from mental health issue too. But then again, many criminals nowadays also use mental health as an excuse to get away with their deeds too.

Or mental health isn't an excuse and legitimately plays a part in their deeds.

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There was a white woman

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felixdcat said..
Cup day I was riding the train back home after work and that Nyoongar (she said she was?) boarded 1/2 way in she was on something (ice? jungle juice? VB) and was very aggressive.
She started to call a guy a white c^nt, and told him she would kick him bad before the end of the ride, the poor guy left the train at the following station........ she then started to abuse a young Maori chick calling her a fat bitch, and making comments that I would not repeat here.
She had another go at an Asian looking guy asking him what he was and calling him a Chinese c^nt.The carriage was getting close to empty and I had to go to the last station, she was getting more aggressive by the minute.
Was thinking: what would I do if she attacked me? I am not a small bloke and I can defend myself even I would prefer to defuse the "tension "if could.
What is the rule of engagement? She was very tall and well built in a muscular way. She must have been full of ice. So if she had thrown the first punch could a bloke retaliate........ she was (kind of) a woman.
What wold you do if in that situation and it escalated to a punching feast?
She kept going on and ignored me till the end of the ride, at the terminus the transport police took care of her.

Take away the train and replace it with a waiting room and you may have a scene from the emergency dept of any regional hospital in WA on most nights.
Nurses and doctors trying their best to deal with it,, with very little support from the dept. Often one after another wondering in, topped right up and out of their minds,,, mouths wide open spewing the abuse and threats to the people trying to do their best for them .

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Jolene said..

Take away the train and replace it with a waiting room and you may have a scene from the emergency dept of any regional hospital in WA on most nights.
Nurses and doctors trying their best to deal with it,, with very little support from the dept. Often one after another wondering in, topped right up and out of their minds,,, mouths wide open spewing the abuse and threats to the people trying to do their best for them .

Not trying to be politically correct, Jolene. But isn't it also true that the similar scenes you described also happen regularly around the watering holes in the big cities, eg. Kings Cross ?