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foilfox said..

Steven F said..

Microsurfer said..
I think you're gonna struggle with that setup. Unfortunately it sounds like you've invested pretty heavily in those foils which are pretty outdated. The spitfire has no glide which is what you're gonna want learning to gybe. If you want to stick with Axis try to get hold of an Art V2. Knowing what I know now, after struggling for years on a similar setup as yours I would take the loss, dump it & get a Code or F one setup. If I had bought a different setup I'd have shaved a season off my progression curve.

Spitfire is outdated but by no means obsolete. Excellent learning to expert, at low second hand price. Spitfires allow you to breach the tips without crash, are easy to use and turn great. Foils that dont allow tip breaching are obsolete as they discourage flying high.
Rear stab size is critical in foiling, the right size is the size up from the one thats too small. needs trial and error.
Surge is next level the 780 is amazing for winging.
The High modulus axis mast is very stiff, market leader. Axis is a great platform.

Hi Steven, please could you give me some more insides about thre surge 780. I am interested in getting some. 73 kg advanced + rider. Currently on thrfe fireballs 880, 1000, 1070, 1160 , 1350 and sf 900, 960, 1030. Both for wing and fd dw. i am a bit concerned the surges are not fast enough for winging. What are your thourghts. Many thanks.

Im 75kg. Got the 830 and 950 surges. Loved them but the 830 felt slow compared to the ART v2's i was riding. After a few sessions i was using the 830 with much smaller sails, had the 3.5m in as low as 15knots in one session when the wind dropped. They turn and surf so well lots of fun so easy to get on foil.Surges are high lift for area foils, at low speed they are great but suspect drag increases rapidly at speed, opposed to the Art v2 which was a lower lift section with lower drag at high speed. 830 was too big..

Got the 780 and its right size and feels fast. Turns next level and really easy to use. Go to foil. Back to using bigger sails dont mind being over powered as can go faster.

The 950 is great for light wind session saving, can pump it around and have a lot of fun. Still turns well.

Suspect ill be wanting a 740 at some stage. Love the narrow span and low area the surges allow you to use. Suspect downwinders will move to surges for fun turning runs.

Awesome foils.

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Microsurfer said..
I think you're gonna struggle with that setup. Unfortunately it sounds like you've invested pretty heavily in those foils which are pretty outdated. The spitfire has no glide which is what you're gonna want learning to gybe. If you want to stick with Axis try to get hold of an Art V2. Knowing what I know now, after struggling for years on a similar setup as yours I would take the loss, dump it & get a Code or F one setup. If I had bought a different setup I'd have shaved a season off my progression curve.

Spitfire is outdated but by no means obsolete. Excellent learning to expert, at low second hand price. Spitfires allow you to breach the tips without crash, are easy to use and turn great. Foils that dont allow tip breaching are obsolete as they discourage flying high.
Rear stab size is critical in foiling, the right size is the size up from the one thats too small. needs trial and error.
Surge is next level the 780 is amazing for winging.
The High modulus axis mast is very stiff, market leader. Axis is a great platform.

Join the Axis Face book group. Ask advice there.

Spitfire 960 is a great learning foil and light wind foil once you get going. ( kept one as a learning kit.)

Fast enough, lots of lift, not too wide.

Short fuse is fine, ultra short is most common.

325 progressive stab is perfect but may benefit from a 350 while learning.

Adjust mast position so front foot never needs to move after takeoff.

Reduce stab size if front foot pressure increases with speed too much.

Buy a smaller Surge once up and going, they are amazing but not needed for learning..

What board are u using?