Manawa forum posts in last 60 days

North is going to develop a parallel line of 'traditional' stitched sails alongside the 3Di.
It's a smart move it keeps the brand accessible while they continue to solve the engineering puzzles of the membrane sails that we were just discussing. In short: 3Di will remain the high-end performance line. we will see...

Another possibility, could be related to the R&D cycle. Developing a new 3Di mold is a massive and time-consuming industrial process. It's possible that North is using these traditional monofilm prototypes as 'live templates.' This would allow designers and athletes to cut, sew, and tweak the geometry like luff curves and draft positions in real-time. Once they've potentially found the winning shape in film, they can then 'freeze' that data into the final 3Di production molds.

Monofilm is back? Well I am going to confort myself with a massive plate of spaghetti or steaming bowl of cappelletti in brodo + 36 month aged muntain of real Parmigiano Reggiano and a good glass of wine.....

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ptsf1111 said..
Same, I like my Blades but if there was a considerably better sail without a premium price that lasts, I'd consider it. Let's see where North are heading, hopefully everyone can just share honest reviews rather than promos though.

To be totally honest, last August I had both the North 3Di[/b] and the Severne S-1 Pro carbon fusion[/b] in my van, and choosing which one to rig was a real 'luxury problem.' They are absolutely on the same elite level. The S-1 Pro is an incredible piece of engineering, super light, big range of use, is made for competition. I was using the 4.4 S1 pro carbon fusion.
I've been in love with the S-1 Pro for years, but the North Wave has captured my heart recently. It's really a matter of personal preference when you're surfing or just planing. My partner made a clearer choice toward Severne; she finds the center of effort more central and easier to manage. Personally, I'm loving the North right now I really like that feeling of a light but effective forward drive. It's just a matter of taste in how you feel the power. On both sets of sails, we use the original Severne (blu and red) and North masts, extensions, and booms to keep the specs right. As for boards, my girlfriend is literally in love with the Pyro 78 [/b]it's her absolute favorite. So as you can see, we aren't brand-biased; we just use what we love. I'm just curious to see if Gen 3 takes that 'forward drive' feeling I like to the next level.

I also wanted to apologize to everyone for my tone earlier. Please put it down to my huge passion and the fact that my English isn't perfect....;
In the end, all these carbon sail brands have pushed the bar so high that we are all winners.

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ptsf1111 said..
I have not no, but I still think that the language used by Manawa is extremely over exaggerating it. The sails can't be that much better, as already pointed out by others. Maybe some might find them better, but it doesn't make non-North sails redundant. It all just sound like an AI-generated promo to me.

When the sails came out originally, someone here challenged me to trial the sails as Surf Sail had a demo. However, they required me to hire the rig for a day in order to try them. Surely I'm not paying for trying a sail. That said, from what I've seen in the professional and local scene, I don't think it's a game changer.

So maybe North need to win a couple of world titles across disciplines in the PWA/IWT this season before making claims like this...

To be clear: I actually own Severne Blades too. My girlfriend uses them and she prefers their feel, so I'm not 'brand-loyal' just for the sake of it.

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John340 said..

ptsf1111 said..

Manawa said..

Honestly? If I were you, I'd wait.
The Gen 2 is an amazing sail, don't get me wrong it fixed the minor quirks of the first batch and it's already light years ahead of any monofilm sail. But the Gen 3 is the 'refined' masterpiece. It depends also on your budget of course. If you want to get on the water with North sails right now, buy the Gen 2. It's a fantastic sail and you'll love it from day one. But if you're the type of person who always wants the latest tech and can afford to wait a little longer for the absolute best, then hold out for Gen 3. Either way, you're leaving the 'stitched curtains' era behind, so you can't really lose! Do you like jumping or only wave riding?

Come on, cut the crap! Light years ahead, refined masterpiece, stitched curtains' era, seriously?!

If this is not AI generated it's merely marketing crap. Are you paid by North or otherwise a bot? I don't think posts like this sound very credible. Reminds me of the early days of this thread.

Have you used a gen 1 or 2 North wave sail? If not, on what do you base your disparaging remarks?

Exactly. I've been using these sails for three years now, punishing them on the reef at Oneye[/b]. When you're out there, you don't care about PWA rankings or forum theories you care about gear that doesn't stretch, doesn't fail, and handles the gusts like nothing else. I use 4.7 Gen 1, 4.2 and 5.2 Gen2, 3.7Xover gen1.

To be clear: I actually own Severne Blades too. My girlfriend uses them and she prefers their feel, so I'm not 'brand-loyal' just for the sake of it.

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North essentially re-engineered every component of the sail, from the downhaul pulley and outhaul to the batten fasteners, for their Generation 1 sails. Given the scope of those changes, it is not surprising that some parts failed sooner than expected. Considering they were also introducing a new sail material, I am surprised they did not derisk the introduction by carrying over more proven components from existing industry designs. That said, credit is due for the systematic way they approached every element of the sail.

I demoed the gen 1 sails when they first came out and I thought they felt good then. I'd be interested to know what changes they made for gen 2 apart from the sail cloth color?

@Manawa I was not even aware that there is already a gen 3. Please share details as I am considering buying one of their sails?

I've seen the photos and I'm telling you: when you finally see it, you'll get it. It's absolutely insane. The level of finish and the overall look are just on another planet. Words don't do it justice you have to see it to believe how far ahead this thing is. Just trust me on this: once it's out, all this talk about 'falling behind' or 'industry rumors' will look pretty ridiculous. It's a game changer, and I'm leaving it at that for now. Stay tuned.

I am about to order a gen 2 sail. Are you saying that I should hold off and wait for the gen 3?

Honestly? If I were you, I'd wait.
The Gen 2 is an amazing sail, don't get me wrong it fixed the minor quirks of the first batch and it's already light years ahead of any monofilm sail. But the Gen 3 is the 'refined' masterpiece. It depends also on your budget of course. If you want to get on the water with North sails right now, buy the Gen 2. It's a fantastic sail and you'll love it from day one. But if you're the type of person who always wants the latest tech and can afford to wait a little longer for the absolute best, then hold out for Gen 3. Either way, you're leaving the 'stitched curtains' era behind, so you can't really lose! Do you like jumping or only wave riding?

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philn said..
North essentially re-engineered every component of the sail, from the downhaul pulley and outhaul to the batten fasteners, for their Generation 1 sails. Given the scope of those changes, it is not surprising that some parts failed sooner than expected. Considering they were also introducing a new sail material, I am surprised they did not derisk the introduction by carrying over more proven components from existing industry designs. That said, credit is due for the systematic way they approached every element of the sail.

I demoed the gen 1 sails when they first came out and I thought they felt good then. I'd be interested to know what changes they made for gen 2 apart from the sail cloth color?

@Manawa I was not even aware that there is already a gen 3. Please share details as I am considering buying one of their sails?

I've seen the photos and I'm telling you: when you finally see it, you'll get it. It's absolutely insane. The level of finish and the overall look are just on another planet. Words don't do it justice you have to see it to believe how far ahead this thing is. Just trust me on this: once it's out, all this talk about 'falling behind' or 'industry rumors' will look pretty ridiculous. It's a game changer, and I'm leaving it at that for now. Stay tuned.

I've seen the Gen 3 in person: it's a technological masterpiece. It's light years ahead of anything else on the market. Honestly, it's impossible for other brands to reach this level of engineering and quality right now. While you're busy talking about 'rumors', I'll be out there riding the future. Good luck catching up with your stitched-together plastic sails!

Hey guys,
has anyone had a go on the new Severne Stone yet? I'm on the Hyper 88 right now-love that narrow tail for Mauritius-style waves-and I'm looking for the right size in the Stone range. The 88L Stone has the same max width, but the one-foot-off is wider, so I'm concerned it might feel a bit 'bigger' on the water. I've seen the 80L and it looks like a real weapon.
I'm specifically interested in how the board handles proper Mauritius conditions-solid waves and side/side-offshore wind[/b]. I'm not really bothered about its onshore performance, as I've already got that covered with my Pyro 78 and my 65L Starboard Stone (the Liam Dunkerbeck model). I really need something that excels in pure down-the-line riding[/b]. Any thoughts or advice?
Thank's in advance