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Reply in Topic: Calling Foil drive integrated mast users! POD height advice

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7 Feb 2026 4:15am

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airsail said..

WindyBear said..

Dl33ta said..
I'm on a 15cm integrated with a trench board. I'd been advised to get a 20cm one to make the learning easier but for the price I wasn't going to drop that sort of money on an integrated mast twice, so figured I'd just take the learning pain at the start. It really doesn't take that long to get used to and I think it's actually a benefit when trying to go direct upwind as the board isn't as exposed to the wind.

Interesting! How does that height deal with chop?

12cm combined with a trench is difficult in chop but fine in smooth surf conditions. I rode the 12 on a standard board in heavy chop for a long time but had to go to 15cm when I got a trench board. It was just too difficult to keep the pod in the water going upwind on the 12, ventilation was killing the thrust.

I used to have all kinds of ventilation issues in those choppy conditions with my short cable setup. The Zip Pod completely solved my ventilation issues. I think its one of the key benefits of the mini pods that allow the Mast to break up the water flow before it hits the pod. I think you can go shorter on any integrated mast or DIY mini pod. Note this would not apply for older integrated masts with the original large pod that protrudes in front of the mast.

I feel unstoppable now knowing I wont have to worry about ventilation while motoring upwind. Trench + Mini Pod = the perfect FD setup.

Reply in Topic: Slick Pod or Nano Pod that is the Question?;-)

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148 posts

2 Feb 2026 7:52am

zip pod is rock solid and a massive upgrade. Highly recommend

Reply in Topic: Calling Foil drive integrated mast users! POD height advice

CFL Foiler

148 posts

30 Jan 2026 5:26am

Yeah, dedicated mast for FD is the way to go. No one wants to tape and retape their motor mount. Even the new quick release from FD would be annoying in my opinion. These are not cheap toys. A spare mast dedicated to FD is how everyone I know rides that does more than one discipline. I love my Cedrus Evo Surf masts too. The Al Forged is great as well and very stiff.

Reply in Topic: Calling Foil drive integrated mast users! POD height advice

CFL Foiler

148 posts

29 Jan 2026 11:05pm

To answer your question directly pod height is pretty well tied to individual preference and ability. I like mine as close to the board as possible but it's a trade off on choppy days. The nice thing about the mini pods is that they have significantly less drag than the old style pods so you can get away with mounting it lower as it has less of an impact to performance when it touches down.

Reply in Topic: What makes a board "Parawing Certified"? Technical requirements and design essentials.

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148 posts

29 Jan 2026 10:23pm

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Thatspec said..

eppo said..
www.instagram.com/reel/DUD2Y03gBcR/?igsh=Mnhub3o3M3lwcmJ4

thoughts ?

I have the 6' x 19 x 82L (same board in '25) and the shape, while really quite good could use a little more volume up front. It's easy to stuff the nose and kill your momentum on Pwing starts.

The construction is absolute crap though. Not a shred of carbon in it and it cracks and dents if you look at it crosseyed.

My F One mid 78l works really nicely for pw. I like it over all. It's not the most efficient shape getting off the water but it's pretty good. It's super stable despite being narrow at 19 wide.
It's the bamboo construction which is very light weight but I agree it's not holding up great after a year of use. Several cracks have started to show where another construction would likely have held up better.

Reply in Topic: Calling Foil drive integrated mast users! POD height advice

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148 posts

29 Jan 2026 8:09pm

Get a zip pod, fraction of the price but 90% of the benefits of an integrated mast. thee3shop.com/

The only benefit of an integrated mast over the zip pod is that you don't have to tape your cable. You can set your pod height where ever you want. It solved my cavitation issues with my short cable setup and you can barely feel the pod when it touches down now. The difference is huge. The secret is the mast breaks the hydro dynamic flow before it hits the much smaller pod at the trailing edge of the mast.
Some older integrated masts still use the original large pod design and they are inferior to the zip pod because they have all of the hydrodynamic drag of the old pod design

If you prefer to not go the third party route FD has their adjustable mini pod coming out later this year as well.
The Cedrus integrated does look really nice though and the price is fair. Great option if you need to buy a mast anyway for a dedicated FD setup.

Reply in Topic: PowerPack Review and Pocket Rocket Back to Back Comparison

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148 posts

4 Jan 2026 10:58am

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Holoholo said..

CH3MTR4IL5 said..

SlowlyButSurely said..

Review is great as per Gav's usual. but I reiterate again my opinion about the upwind capability of the PP which is not that far off from the PR. Whoever comes from BRM Kanaha's and Ka'a learnt the hard way. Basically riding parawing on front lines and sail at 40-45deg. I have seen people reaching unreal angles, even on the Ka'a
also the review does not mention the much improved construction of the PP. It was reported in multiple venues how battens stitching and trailing edge of the Pocket Rocket developed issues over time. The PP addresses both.

pull wise there is no comparison. The PP starts earlier than the PR. Once again it is a matter of habits and people coming from BRMs will have an edge. With the PP sail has to be placed deeper and lower in the window compared to the PR to take off.

i am the guy outside the chorus here, and probably it is due to the condition specifics I usually ride. The PR in sizes 4.3 and 5 turned very poor, it was really bad for quick retracts and redeploys and very prone to line tangles. The PP improves ALL these issues.

I didn't get the chance to ride the larger PP's but I would absolutely agree that they will really shine compared with the PR in 4.3/5.

Ultimately, Ozone is a bit of a victim of its own success, in that the PR performs extraordinarily well upwind - the PP is ahead of most parawings on the market on nearly every front, but it does point upwind a little less and is a little slower upwind. This is just physics, you can't have everything and that's one of the tradeoffs for stability. If the PR wasn't there for comparison, I don't think most of us would notice - it is obvious riding back to back that there is a difference, but in most conditions its not so stark that you would really notice it day to day.

Ref your comment @Holoholo, I ride with harness right at the front of the bar on the PR and the PP.

Yeah spot on brother. Wasn't negating your take, which to be more clear, I thought was a really good one. I'm just allaying fears- saying my experience was I had initial concerns going upwind on the PP, but that they were gone with only a little added time. And yeah- I specifically jumped on the PP in the 4.3 as that size starts to really exaggerate the issues with the PR/line length, softness. The improvements made in the PP are hyper-highlighted. I've been on the PR in 3.0 and 3.6, shortened the lines 6" which helped immensely with my bridle complaints and still performs a treat. I'd love to have one of everything, but not having unlimited budget, I will happily stick with those for the time being. For me the perfect do everything PW would be: New smaller handle, 6" shorter bridles in new configuration/material with a PR canopy. I have to think that's on the way. If so I'm all over it.

I think you just described a Ka'a

Reply in Topic: PowerPack Review and Pocket Rocket Back to Back Comparison

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148 posts

1 Jan 2026 8:34pm

This screw driver is a terrible hammer. They are different tools for different jobs, not sure why that bothers some. -happy v1 BRM Maliko rider

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