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Yay - I can now waterstart!

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Created by jermaldan > 9 months ago, 20 Feb 2011
jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
20 Feb 2011 4:52PM
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Well this has been a long time coming and the frustration was getting to me, but this morning went to South Rickets and basically said no more to uphauling.

Positioning the board. I always had trouble with this. This time I decided that I would rest the mast on the tail of the board and then swim the nose around till it was pointing into the wind. Then grabber the boom and pushed the board with the foot, vuola! The sail is flying and the got my back foot on the board.

Flying the sail was the thing that was messing with me the most but somehow i tried someting different today and bang got the sail flying. Also when it was getting a bit choppier and the clew was sinking on me i cleared the sail from the mast tip and got it flying. I was suppried how easy this was. I had tried it before but they we half hearted attempts. This time i really lifted the mast tip with everyting i got and all the sudden the sail just popped up. Got the board positioned and just slid my way down to the boom.

Then worked on positioning the board took some practice but getting in the sweet spot whilst flying the sail was easier than I thought. Maybe it was the months of failiures that got me through it.

Then up and away. 5/10 times this resulted in a catapult. But then instead of getting straight up I stayed low and just let the board build up some momentum. Then I just gradually got up hooked in and planed away.

I was supprised how much can change in a short session and how it all just clicks all the sudden. My previous waterstarts were just flukes now i can consistantly got up and away. Man that feels good and the 20-25 kt constant wind helped me hugely.

It all came at a cost though. Blew a panel out of my 5.7 and broke my clew. Jury rigged it whilst out there but seemed to hold so there was no sence of stopping.

What a day!!!!

rps
VIC, 605 posts
20 Feb 2011 5:42PM
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Awesome news Jez!!

I remember going from fluke waterstarts to the real thing and how satisfying the whole trip was! I still carry an uphaul though, even on my wave rig. You just never know when you'll need it.

Stoked for you man

jimieleuk
VIC, 25 posts
20 Feb 2011 6:08PM
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Good work dude!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
20 Feb 2011 7:03PM
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Did a similar thing to get my waterstarts...sacrificed a couple of hours one arvo and instead of sailing, decided to work on my waterstarting.

I even taught myself to do clew-first waterstarts as practice, but because I've never needed them, when I tried one the other day I got thrown over the handlebars.

Your arms and back will thank you for the invesment of time spent getting your waterstarts working.

latedropeddy
VIC, 417 posts
20 Feb 2011 9:38PM
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Well done mate! Stoked for you

jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
20 Feb 2011 10:19PM
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Sailhack said...

Did a similar thing to get my waterstarts...sacrificed a couple of hours one arvo and instead of sailing, decided to work on my waterstarting.

I even taught myself to do clew-first waterstarts as practice, but because I've never needed them, when I tried one the other day I got thrown over the handlebars.

Your arms and back will thank you for the invesment of time spent getting your waterstarts working.


I almost managed to do a clew first waterstart a few times. board was just pointing the wrong way out of a failed Jibe and I was hoping to either flip the sail or turn the board around, but then I just widened my grip and stepped up just like a regular waterstart. But once I was up there I couldn't hold it and every attempt to flip the sail ended up with me in the water.

This is the biggest achievement since getting planing for the fist time. I think that there are 3 major fundamental hurdles that you need to cross that get you to a comfortable level with your sailing. 1) planing for the first time in the straps and under control (hooked in) 2) Waterstarting with confidence (not fluking it). 3) Carve Jibing with ease. After 3 the entire works open up to you Jumping freestyle, waveriding...etc...

Now that i have 1 and 2 down I am going to focus 100% on nailing my carve jibes, because I cant wait to try my hand at jumping, flipping and waveriding!

I got my double flip catapult dismounts down though ;)

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
21 Feb 2011 9:14AM
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^^^ 1) can do, 2) no probs...3) not a chance! I can Jibe most times, which includes a point where the board comes off the plane or stalls whilst I flip the rig, but carve jibe??? That's a whole different kind of beast!

pedro e
VIC, 257 posts
22 Feb 2011 10:34PM
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Hey - well done Jez. You've come a long way!

jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
23 Feb 2011 11:16AM
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pedro e said...

Hey - well done Jez. You've come a long way!


Thanks mate!

It about 12 months since I started and you gave me my first lesson. Is that typical period of time to nail waterstarting?

Of course if you can windsurf everyday you can nail it in a few weeks, but considering I get out every second weekend?

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
23 Feb 2011 11:57AM
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When the wind gets better we should fire up those informal clinics. Last weekend I thought about it, but was a bit too windy and choppy at some spots.

jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
23 Feb 2011 1:39PM
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I found rickets south a good spot. No sore break and reasonably sheltered.

Goto watch the reefs though.

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
23 Feb 2011 3:09PM
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Rickets is great sailing spot, but not a great spot for a clinic. You need a spot to drop in next you and have chat about how your sailing. I find you need a spot to sail next to each other and watch each other's moves. Just like we do at Inverloch From there you can see how to do it and how its been done. Mount Martha on Sunday was a good spot and would recommend for a future sailing sessons. Elwood is another spot and Bonno for light SW and northerlies. Plus Parkdale for SE winds. etc

pedro e
VIC, 257 posts
23 Feb 2011 10:59PM
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jermaldan said...

pedro e said...

Hey - well done Jez. You've come a long way!


Thanks mate!

It about 12 months since I started and you gave me my first lesson. Is that typical period of time to nail waterstarting?

Of course if you can windsurf everyday you can nail it in a few weeks, but considering I get out every second weekend?


Without my intervention.... you'd probably be doing one handed carve gybes by now!
But I reckon a year sounds OK. Lots of variables - how fit you are, how coordinated, how hard you push yourself in terms of getting out of your comfort zone, how often you get out and for how long, what type of gear you have and how often you get useful tips and instruction etc.
Happy to give you some more help next time we cross paths... for what that's worth..

jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
23 Feb 2011 11:57PM
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pedro e said...

jermaldan said...

pedro e said...

Hey - well done Jez. You've come a long way!


Thanks mate!

It about 12 months since I started and you gave me my first lesson. Is that typical period of time to nail waterstarting?

Of course if you can windsurf everyday you can nail it in a few weeks, but considering I get out every second weekend?


Without my intervention.... you'd probably be doing one handed carve gybes by now!
But I reckon a year sounds OK. Lots of variables - how fit you are, how coordinated, how hard you push yourself in terms of getting out of your comfort zone, how often you get out and for how long, what type of gear you have and how often you get useful tips and instruction etc.
Happy to give you some more help next time we cross paths... for what that's worth..


One hand carve gybes!!!!! Please teach me master... i am not worthy... i am not worthy...

pedro e
VIC, 257 posts
24 Feb 2011 10:17PM
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I've gotta figure out how to do them myself first...

lowrider
5 posts
26 Feb 2011 3:59PM
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Well Done. I am a late starter to windsurfing and I remember reading that someone found it a humbling experience learning to waterstart over forty years of age. It was 2 weeks to my fortieth so I went to SHQ for a waterstart lesson. It was 35knts with gusts beyond. I know what doesnt kill you makes you stronger but.....

That was a little while ago. I can waterstart quite well now: other windsurfing skills quite poor.

jakranz
VIC, 126 posts
28 Feb 2011 10:06PM
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lowrider said...

Well Done. I am a late starter to windsurfing and I remember reading that someone found it a humbling experience learning to waterstart over forty years of age. It was 2 weeks to my fortieth so I went to SHQ for a waterstart lesson. It was 35knts with gusts beyond. I know what doesnt kill you makes you stronger but.....

That was a little while ago. I can waterstart quite well now: other windsurfing skills quite poor.


I can top that....I learnt it with 52yrs of age...magnificent experience windsurfing since.



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