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What conditions do you go out in?

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Created by Patchk > 9 months ago, 13 Nov 2008
Patchk
VIC, 27 posts
13 Nov 2008 9:41PM
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Hi, just wondering what conditions you guys like to windsurf in?
I went out today (st kilda) because it was hot and windy, but there wasn't anyone there, not even kite surfers?
After struggling for about 2 hours I thought maybe everyone else was smart enough to realise it was just too gusty?

The main time I see windsurfers out is when its cold, grey and stormy, I don't get it?

OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
13 Nov 2008 9:45PM
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I will go out from 10kts - 30kts+. Just happens that sometimes work tends to get in the way of a good sailing day

Al McLeod
VIC, 633 posts
13 Nov 2008 9:48PM
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today would've been epic if i wasn't stuck in school... in northerlies most people sail at green point in brighton.

mathew
QLD, 2142 posts
13 Nov 2008 9:36PM
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Green point it was... It went from 25kn Northerly, to 25 Southerly in about 3 mins...!

If its blowing Northerly, you want Green Point.
Westerly is good at Elwood.
Southerly (aka the seabreezes) are good at St Kilda.

... all assuming you are in that district of course.... which Sth Melbourne is.

Cambodge
VIC, 851 posts
14 Nov 2008 10:52AM
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Yep, Green Point was the place to be yesterday (Thursday). Was very surprised how small the chop was for the wind strength so it was great for hooning around on a 6.7m without the usual "flying off the top of every bit of chop".

Managed to get down there after work and sail for an hour from 6pm. Was that you, Matt, staying out when the change came through? Was freaky how quick it swung around.

I saw the storm clouds and thought I'd pack up for the day - chicken

MikeyS
VIC, 1509 posts
14 Nov 2008 2:34PM
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Cold, grey and stormy is good. Cool to warm, grey and consistent is better. If it's nice for beachgoers, it's usually crap for sailing. I really don't see what the problem was when it was blowing 30kts at Coronation Beach when I was there some time back. The beachgoers should have rigged a smaller sun-shelter!

Patchk
VIC, 27 posts
15 Nov 2008 2:14PM
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I still don't understand, what makes Greenpoint good in Northerlies and St Kilda bad? (the fact that no one was there and this was on a hot, windy day between 4 and 6pm so I was surprised.)
Chop did get pretty bad, it was the first time I've ever fallen in while moving so fast that it actually hurt hitting the water.

x sport guy
VIC, 110 posts
15 Nov 2008 2:59PM
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i dont think st kilda is particularly bad (though ive never sailed there so i cant really say why, other than it may be a bit more sheltered ) it just seems that green point is a more popular spot to go. lots of people go there, its about the best spot ive been to so far in my limited experience. you should check it out its only a few minutes down the road from st kilda, just watch out for the parking inspectors

MikeyS
VIC, 1509 posts
15 Nov 2008 8:42PM
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Patchk said...

I still don't understand, what makes Greenpoint good in Northerlies and St Kilda bad? (the fact that no one was there and this was on a hot, windy day between 4 and 6pm so I was surprised.)
Chop did get pretty bad, it was the first time I've ever fallen in while moving so fast that it actually hurt hitting the water.

St Kilda is bad in a northerly because the wind is very turbulent coming straight off the land.. I suspect that buildings and apartment blocks contribute to this. Northerlies are generally quite gusty in the bay anyhow, but close in to shore at StKilda, the turbulence amplifies that. At Green Point it can still be quite gusty, but the wind seems to have "settled" a bit by there. You can often see gusts and squalls heading south if you look north up the bay from the lookout there. It is probably the place furthest north in the bay that gets "cleaner" (more consistent) air. Green Point sticks out into the bay a bit- any further south and it will be blowing offshore. The further south down the bay you go in an northerly, the weaker it tends to blow. Rye can be great in a northerly, but it generally needs to be really honking for it to push that far down.

Patchk
VIC, 27 posts
15 Nov 2008 9:59PM
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MikeyS said...

Patchk said...

I still don't understand, what makes Greenpoint good in Northerlies and St Kilda bad? (the fact that no one was there and this was on a hot, windy day between 4 and 6pm so I was surprised.)
Chop did get pretty bad, it was the first time I've ever fallen in while moving so fast that it actually hurt hitting the water.

St Kilda is bad in a northerly because the wind is very turbulent coming straight off the land.. I suspect that buildings and apartment blocks contribute to this. Northerlies are generally quite gusty in the bay anyhow, but close in to shore at StKilda, the turbulence amplifies that. At Green Point it can still be quite gusty, but the wind seems to have "settled" a bit by there. You can often see gusts and squalls heading south if you look north up the bay from the lookout there. It is probably the place furthest north in the bay that gets "cleaner" (more consistent) air. Green Point sticks out into the bay a bit- any further south and it will be blowing offshore. The further south down the bay you go in an northerly, the weaker it tends to blow. Rye can be great in a northerly, but it generally needs to be really honking for it to push that far down.



That makes sense, it was ridiculously gusty the other day, within a 5 second period I felt the wind shift from the perfect angle, to directly behind me, to pushing against the sail, then back to normal again, it was like tug of war. The benefit of being the only one out was that no one could see me struggling, or hear me cursing the wind, as if by insulting it it was somehow going to calm down.

Thanks for all the tips

MikeyS
VIC, 1509 posts
17 Nov 2008 2:50PM
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I do remember going out from St Kilda in big northerlies years and years ago when I had a very floaty board. And I do remember some awesome dead flat water speed runs, but had to go offshore hundreds of metres before the gusts actually hit the water. The bigger the wind, the longer the wind shadow off the buildings. Just a bit like hard work to get that far upwind back to shore when the wind keeps dropping out.

Ain't the water beautiful and clear in a northerly!

mathew
QLD, 2142 posts
17 Nov 2008 9:53PM
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One other reason for not sailing the northerly at St Kilda, is that is directly offshore - there aint any way you are going to be swimming in if you break something...

The northerlies at Green Point provide somewhat less risky self-rescue, with Sandringham being downwind. As a bonus, there is sometimes yachts or other motor boats passing by, so in a worst case you could try hailing them.

And with most guys sailing there, you are more likely to get some help from other sailors too.

Alohaman
WA, 2 posts
19 Nov 2008 1:07AM
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