I guess we need specific information but it sounds to me like Windsurfing is off for 6 weeks. No recreational exercise allowed.

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mr love said..
I guess we need specific information but it sounds to me like Windsurfing is off for 6 weeks. No recreational exercise allowed.

I wonder, if windsurfing is out so should cycling.

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mr love said..
I guess we need specific information but it sounds to me like Windsurfing is off for 6 weeks. No recreational exercise allowed.

Definitely not allowed for 6 weeks. Sailing, surfing etc all not allowed under recreational activity ban. I think you would be pushing it to try and get out of a fine saying windsurfing or supping is not sailing or surfing. Suggest stay off the water.

Yep, Sailing Aust has advised no sailing in metro Melbourne until further information comes out.
Regional areas are now on stage 3, so windsurfing allowed at your closest spot, but no communal facilities or group activities.

Once again can't walk to the end of the street to sail. Would still be in my postcode and within 5km of home but not allowed. stupid rules.

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Derwood68 said..
Once again can't walk to the end of the street to sail. Would still be in my postcode and within 5km of home but not allowed. stupid rules.

What rules do you propose?

Yep..Plenty of water in my 5 km zone. I am allowed to walk on the beach , why not go for a Windsurf?

I'm curious. Would you propose that any/unlimited activity be permitted with 5km/1hr? If not, how long would you propose that the premier spend considering each sport in turn, and in what order should he consider them?

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JonE said..
I'm curious. Would you propose that any/unlimited activity be permitted with 5km/1hr? If not, how long would you propose that the premier spend considering each sport in turn, and in what order should he consider them?

Before this current blow out many proposed the premier should provide guaranteed paid sick leave for anyone testing positive to encourage them not to go to work because of our casual work force, many questioned the logic of mandatory quarantine for 1000s of returned travellers irrespective of whether they tested positive, while positive Victorians were foolishly allowed to self quarantine. They should have at least been given the option of a quarantine hotel room rather than returning to their family home to put others at risk. Many proposed moving positive cases from mixed hotels and nursing homes to positive only hotels and nursing homes where stricter measures could be implemented and the chance of spread greatly reduced. Many questioned why we weren't just going for elimination when we were down to 1-2 cases a day? Many question why the nursing homes were so unprepared and the situation has been allowed to get so bad when the message from the NSW experience and Sweden were loud and clear.

Many of us are fuming that our government missed so many opportunities to get and keep this thing under control and that we are now paying the price for its mismanagement. The only thing Andrews should consider is stepping down, NSW government has managed to keep their daily infection rate below twenty in the same time frame.

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I'm curious. Would you propose that any/unlimited activity be permitted with 5km/1hr? If not, how long would you propose that the premier spend considering each sport in turn, and in what order should he consider them?

How'bout all sports so long as social distancing rules are observed? Any outbreaks because of e.g. watersports that I don't know of?

He does not need to spend any time considering any specifics of them. The risk of transmission through individual sporting activities is miniscule.

He needed to spend his time on:
1-proper and specific measures for known mechanics of outbreaks
2-how to enforce them to prevent the known positive cases and high risk groups from spreading the virus.

That is the opposite of what he did about the hotel quarantines, outbreaks in abattoirs, part-time workers across multiple aged care homes, positive cases out and about (800 out of 3000 door knocks is simply appalling), incentives for getting tested and self isolation.

The shot gun approach he is taking instead will come at a huge social, mental and economic cost.

I am singling him out: as the Premier he is ultimately accountable. Hearing him complaining about people not following rules, hiding facts, lecturing people, etc... gives me no confidence at all. After all, he is the only premier who lost the control of the situation in Australia and I don't think we have more idiots than other states.

Might be nice to keep this on the topic of how the restrictions apply to windsurfing.

I prefer my windsurfing served without a side of politics pie... That's what Facebook is for

I think the boating restrictions (for sailing, windsurfing, supping, surfing, boating, etc) are in part to minimise the need for rescue, car travel and time out of home. The rules were hasty, pragmatic and imperfect but are being tweaked. In the scheme of tweaks that need to be made to rules, I'd much rather those in charge focused on more urgent challenges than bending rules for my preferred recreational pursuit. It's probably only six weeks and it will prevent many deaths and injuries (amputations, strokes, scarring of heart/lungs and neurological damage among other things for people of all ages). Health workers tend to bear the brunt of this. I reckon look at the bigger picture and suck it up.

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Derwood68 said..
Once again can't walk to the end of the street to sail. Would still be in my postcode and within 5km of home but not allowed. stupid rules.

What rules do you propose?

As long as you are 5km from your home address. You follow social distancing rules of 1.5m and no groups of more than 2 people. You are not expecting anyone else to come rescue you if you get into difficulties.

Any recreation activity should be allowed provide you follow these guidelines.

Scottw If we all followed these basic guidelines there would never have been a second wave and mental health issues would not have sky rocketed.

If all people could follow basic guidelines, we wouldn't need police, prisons or litter pickers... It's a fragile plan.

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So it's blowing and I'm going by this:

www.facebook.com/surfingvictoria/








Surfing Victoria
17 hrs ?

Yesterday we received word that the DHHS have reclassified Surfing as allowed within 5km of your household for those in Stage 4 Restrictions (Mornington Peninsula). That means if you live within 5kms of a surf break you may surf there whilst maintaining distance from others and all of the other COVID-Safe rules. To keep all of our other followers who are more than 5km from a surf beach surf-fit at home, @surfbetternow & @kieseraustralia have teamed up and developed an ISO Workout that can be done in the comfort of your living room. Check it out and stay surf strong in preparation for an easing of restrictions: surfbetternow.com/./kieser-surf-better-now-iso-work.

Surfing was never banned. It was never mentioned on the DHHS web site.

Driving more than 5km to do it was banned, and you were only permitted to do it as exercise for an hour.

There were plenty of people visible in the web cams on Westernport (stage 4) and Torquay (stage 3).

I wonder if you would get busted if you snaked somebody or dropped in and infringed the 1.5m distance?

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Gorgo said..
Surfing was never banned. It was never mentioned on the DHHS web site.

Driving more than 5km to do it was banned, and you were only permitted to do it as exercise for an hour.

There were plenty of people visible in the web cams on Westernport (stage 4) and Torquay (stage 3).

I wonder if you would get busted if you snaked somebody or dropped in and infringed the 1.5m distance?

Surfing, sailing etc are listed as allowed under stage 3, but you have use your closest spot.
Interesting there is no mention on stage 4, although Australian Sailing has advised that sailing is not allowed...

We'll all be tuned in to the announcement on Sunday! I've been lucky enough to be in stage 3 so can still go to my local reservoir, but I'm missing the salt water!

Can anybody decifer from yesterdays announcement when we will be allowed to Windsurf in Melbourne? Appeared to me not until Oct 28 but am I wrong?

Mr love not looking good.
Screwed over again

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mr love said..
Can anybody decifer from yesterdays announcement when we will be allowed to Windsurf in Melbourne? Appeared to me not until Oct 28 but am I wrong?

I expect Australian Sailing will have a guide out in the next few days - but I think if you can do it within the 5km radius it will be sooner.
Sutton also noted that if things improve quickly they will bring forward the steps...

outdoor recreation - must be within 5km, all sport and recreation facilities closed, outdoor playgrounds open
I'm reading that as it's ok as long as it within 5km.

This is current Stage 4, clearly cannot Windsurf regardless of it being within 5km. Now extended to the end of the month. Where I would like clarification is what happens after that?

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This is current Stage 4, clearly cannot Windsurf regardless of it being within 5km. Now extended to the end of the month. Where I would like clarification is what happens after that?

Just looked on the kite thread and those guys were out on the water. A friend called the cops to ask if it was ok and they had no interest and said call the dept of who knows what!

I get boat ramps and powered boats but single person none powered water sports which is technically exercise????? Or am i clutching at straws......

Check kiterepublic website. Apparently kites are back on and joining windsurfing which was never banned ( apparently)... might have had a cheeky sail myself Monday in the northerly as I luckily am within 200 m of the sea...maybe more common sense to come who knows!

I've always been guided by the Australian Sailing definitions, and they've been pretty explicit that no sailing allowed in stage 4 - they don't specifically mention windsurfing or kitting, but a blanket no is their view.

Frustratingly, they've been completely silent since Sunday's announcement, so who knows what their position is.

Seems to me the way things are going, from next week the definition will change from exercise, to exercise and recreation, and as long as you stick to the 5km radius and distance etc, so windsurfing and kiting would be a go for those lucky enough to live by the bay...

I'm waiting for the 5km bubble to lift, keen to get down to the bay asap!

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mr love said..
This is current Stage 4, clearly cannot Windsurf regardless of it being within 5km. Now extended to the end of the month. Where I would like clarification is what happens after that?

Talking to someone who lives in the west mentioned he was going for a windsurf later, I asked the question - how do you do that ? His response, the local police said it would be ok provided it was no longer than an hour and within the 5km zone.

So we can thank Kite boarding Australia for this:
www.facebook.com/kiterepublic/videos/2746128642311971/

It's officially OK as long as you stick to the 5km radius.

Cool....1Hr door to door is a bit tough though, I assume this extends to 2 hrs on the 13th.

I'm still stuck with a small lake being the only water within cooee.

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I'm still stuck with a small lake being the only water within cooee.

I'm also stuck with a local reservoir - what I wouldn't give for no gusts!

I would like to remind people that there are two parts to the rules for physical distancing for exercise.

The first part is the 1.5m. The second part is "You can exercise with one other person. This can be a person you live with or a friend or family member."

During the previous period at Green Point people would come in for a break and you would get clumps of 10-20 people milling around in fairly close proximity. Each person may have observed the 1.5m rule, but nobody was observing the "one other rule".

Don't do that. It just provokes unwarranted attention. There's lots of beach. Go out. Go hard for an hour. Go home.