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Loco GW60 battery.

Created by Richiefish Richiefish  > 9 months ago, 19 Nov 2019
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Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

19 Nov 2019 8:21pm
My GW 60 is about three years old and is going fine except for one thing. It would seem the battery is starting to die. I'm only getting about an hour out of a charge. Does anybody know if Locosystems have a battery replacement service ? Or, is there any technique for revamping the battery without removing it ?
jn1
jn1

jn1

SA

2683 posts

19 Nov 2019 9:52pm
Have a look at this link. No, can't rejuvenate LIPO batteries.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/GW60-Battery-replacement
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

19 Nov 2019 9:59pm
Thanks JN. Doesn't look too difficult so long as I can get a battery that fits.
jn1
jn1

jn1

SA

2683 posts

19 Nov 2019 10:49pm
I recommend cutting the battery leads and then splicing the new battery onto them. That way you don't have to remove the board or reflow the battery terminals on the board (which is a bit tricky). Cover the board with paper or cardboard so a solder does not fall onto it.
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

20 Nov 2019 2:07pm
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jn1 said..
I recommend cutting the battery leads and then splicing the new battery onto them. That way you don't have to remove the board or reflow the battery terminals on the board (which is a bit tricky). Cover the board with paper or cardboard so a solder does not fall onto it.


Roger that. Thanks.
TRIMMER
TRIMMER

QLD

217 posts

20 Nov 2019 2:25pm
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Richiefish said..

jn1 said..
I recommend cutting the battery leads and then splicing the new battery onto them. That way you don't have to remove the board or reflow the battery terminals on the board (which is a bit tricky). Cover the board with paper or cardboard so a solder does not fall onto it.



Roger that. Thanks.

got a battery for you ,glynn will contact you
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

28 Nov 2019 11:11am
Work in progress. Old battery looking pretty farked there.


decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

28 Nov 2019 10:04am
Doesn't look good. I'd make sure I didn't damage the plastic covering, I'm not sure what the electrolyte is in lithium batteries, but it's probably not nice. Then there's the fire risk, don't know much about that either.
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

28 Nov 2019 2:43pm
The old battery next to the new.


Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

28 Nov 2019 2:51pm
I may have left it too late. The day before I got the new battery the gw60 went faulty. Backing light was on by itself, then time reset to 11:59pm now all buttons unresponsive. I suspect this was caused by the old battery. New battery in, fault remains.Reload firmware,same. Except now it's going to take ages for the watch to run flat (which sometimes fixes this problem)
jn1
jn1

jn1

SA

2683 posts

28 Nov 2019 7:33pm
Is there electrolyte on the board ?

If so, give it an IPA bath (remove the LCD display), then reflow with hot gas station (with liquid flux). Then another IPA bathy.

Nb/ IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol, not the extra hoppy ale
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
No electrolyte on board. Only on the piezo thing that the 2 springs support. Problem seems to be coming good now. Managed to get it into gps mode so at least the time is right now. I have some IPA if I need it.


Boombuster
Boombuster

QLD

584 posts

29 Nov 2019 8:43am
In my model plane days I seen heaps of puffy lipo batteries explode into flames best thing to do with the old one is stand back and chuck it in a bucket of water to kill it, don't leave it around home if she goes off you could have a fire.
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

29 Nov 2019 12:27pm
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Boombuster said..
In my model plane days I seen heaps of puffy lipo batteries explode into flames best thing to do with the old one is stand back and chuck it in a bucket of water to kill it, don't leave it around home if she goes off you could have a fire.


Roger that.
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

30 Nov 2019 9:45am
Latest innovation. I was worried about the waterproofing but didn't want to use a permanent adhesive sealant so I used a bit of Tefgel. Fingers crossed.


decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

30 Nov 2019 11:23am
I put mine back dry and hasn't been a problem, but that looks like a good idea. My main leak worry is the buttons. Mal Faulkner suggested a tapered shaft as a possibility, when I said I couldn't see any seal that vented when the buttons are pressed.
Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

30 Nov 2019 6:15pm
Test sesh for repaired GW60 this arvo. Great result. Like a new unit. No leaks.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

30 Nov 2019 6:36pm
Great result.
So big question, the new battery is 5mm longer and 4mm narrower. Was there any problems fitting it?

Edit, actually 0.5mm thicker and 4mm narrower same length
Macroscien
Macroscien

QLD

6808 posts

30 Nov 2019 8:49pm
Can we fit a slightly bigger then 250mAh battery to last and record logs for a longer period ? I believe that technology is constantly improving so maybe somebody doubled the capacity already at same size ?



Richiefish
Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

30 Nov 2019 8:53pm
New battery was slightly smaller than the old.(see previous pic) Same AH. Easy fit.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

30 Nov 2019 8:13pm
OK we better make a note of that then for future reference.
That's 602025 for the new. 552425 for the old.
And of course I got that wrong!
The new is 6mm thick 20mm wide and 25mm long.
The old is 5.5mm thick 24mm wide and 25mm long
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