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boom breakage

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Created by joe windsurf > 9 months ago, 17 Oct 2012
joe windsurf
1482 posts
17 Oct 2012 4:24PM
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on another forum, iwindsurf, people are saying they break aluminum booms regularily
salt water is supposed to be a factor, weight and crashes too
someone cited 200 uses as MTF/mean time to failure
another wave sails in salt water and breaks one per year
what a PITA
I HAD NO IDEA @#$%^&*

westozwind
WA, 1416 posts
17 Oct 2012 4:30PM
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On another planet, far, far away, humans do not exits.
I mean WTF is with that?

deejay8204
QLD, 557 posts
17 Oct 2012 6:45PM
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I give mine a good soak with the hose after use and stand it up on its end so any water can leak out at the Clew end. Something I read somewhere recommended that, could have even been on this forum. I also read that the boom should be separated as well after sailing to dry out the internals.

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
17 Oct 2012 7:13PM
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aluminium booms are designed to break, yep you heard it here first.

honestly, with the loads people put into booms, unless you are particularly light, or just sail perfectly flat water i don't think it's possible to have any aluminium boom that will last forever, unless you make it horrendously fat and heavy.

that said, most ally booms seem to last well enough in general use, thou there has been examples of some with some serious design flaws, such as the first few versions of the NP booms with the hydroformed front end, pretty sure a heap of them failed at the exact same spot after very little sailing. but that's why we have warranties doesn't save you swimming, but anyway

barri
SA, 317 posts
17 Oct 2012 8:29PM
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I broke my 2010 x6 yesterday at the head. Now ive got to decide whether to go carbon so the same doesnt happen again. The curse of wavesailing...

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
17 Oct 2012 8:43PM
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If you are only starting out you could safely say one decent quality alloy boom will probably last you for a number of years.

If you progress to any form of windsurfing that is pushing the gear to its limits then you should probably budget to replace a alloy boom at least once a season. At $200-$300 a go it's still not too bad when you compare it to the ongoing cost of many other sports.

If you want some form of longevity and security then it is worth investing in carbon. Bearing in mind that the benefits of carbon are also a stiffer boom, leading to a more responsive rig. So it's not quite as easy as 4x alloy booms = 1 carbon style debate, but that is a start.

Carantoc
WA, 7194 posts
17 Oct 2012 8:47PM
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Have you thought about a SB community OEM boom ?

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
17 Oct 2012 9:08PM
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Carantoc said...
Have you thought about a SB community OEM boom ?


Only if we can get 20 booms for us on SB, carbon of course, for $100 each.
Carbon is $40/sqm if you buy in bulk and there would only be 1sqm in a boom.

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
17 Oct 2012 10:42PM
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had my north silver HD boom for a while and im 115kgs, forwards, flakas, backloops,

plenty of flex, but maybe thats what stops it from bereaking, as i broken a few carbin booms

barri
SA, 317 posts
18 Oct 2012 9:17AM
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I was contemplating a chinook carbon. Any experiences?

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
18 Oct 2012 9:06AM
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jsnfok said...
had my north silver HD boom for a while and im 115kgs, forwards, flakas, backloops,

plenty of flex, but maybe thats what stops it from bereaking, as i broken a few carbin booms


I had the one before that, boom arms were like spaghetti, but never broke for me. Gave it to a mate and he destroyed the front end on it thou, think the arms are still going strong?

barri said...
I was contemplating a chinook carbon. Any experiences?


good carbon boom, a bit of a benchmark in my opinion, there are stiffer, lighter, cheaper options but probably can't go wrong with the chinook. I'd say check the price, if it's over 800, there are probably better options for the price.

barri
SA, 317 posts
18 Oct 2012 10:43AM
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Select to expand quote


good carbon boom, a bit of a benchmark in my opinion, there are stiffer, lighter, cheaper options but probably can't go wrong with the chinook. I'd say check the price, if it's over 800, there are probably better options for the price.


I was looking secondhand... Cant afford the newies so the choice is limited

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
18 Oct 2012 2:22PM
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barri said...
I broke my 2010 x6 yesterday at the head. Now ive got to decide whether to go carbon so the same doesnt happen again. The curse of wavesailing...


I did the same & bought a new head (bolted fitting). I've kept it as a spare but really should get out & test it.



jsnfok said...
had my north silver HD boom for a while and im 115kgs, forwards, flakas, backloops,


show-off.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
18 Oct 2012 7:36PM
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I just buy a new alloy boom each year. I usually get Chinook as I feel they are the best quality. Can still bend them though if you hit a ray at 25 knots.

174
NSW, 190 posts
18 Oct 2012 11:19PM
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Mark _australia said...
Carantoc said...
Have you thought about a SB community OEM boom ?


Only if we can get 20 booms for us on SB, carbon of course, for $100 each.
Carbon is $40/sqm if you buy in bulk and there would only be 1sqm in a boom.

Any idea how many layers of carbon go into a boom? I make it about .33m^2 of carbon for one layer... surely more than 3? (I realise you weren't being exact!)

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
19 Oct 2012 12:04AM
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If carbon boom is not design indeed to brake before you brake your ribs ?
Since I did broke 3 carbon boom myself already I think that main design foults is not in the carbon tube itself but maybe in the mounting - without proper swivel that bending forces become extreme - so you could brake your mast or boom ....

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
19 Oct 2012 5:47AM
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174 said...
Mark _australia said...
Carantoc said...
Have you thought about a SB community OEM boom ?


Only if we can get 20 booms for us on SB, carbon of course, for $100 each.
Carbon is $40/sqm if you buy in bulk and there would only be 1sqm in a boom.

Any idea how many layers of carbon go into a boom? I make it about .33m^2 of carbon for one layer... surely more than 3? (I realise you weren't being exact!)



If you missed it, he was being sarcastic, based on Macroscien's approach to modern research and development.

Carantoc
WA, 7194 posts
19 Oct 2012 6:04AM
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I think he is correct.

There would be 1 m2 of carbon, the remainder would consist of over-inflated tyres, carbon nano-tube walls, old coke bottles and twin hydrofoils. The boom would be 3cm long to fit in your pocket, but you could bolt extensions to it to increase it into 17m long. It would be assembled by inhibited female NASA engineers. It would also be a boam not a boom.

Only another 4 pages to go.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8292 posts
19 Oct 2012 5:48PM
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Never broken a boom in 20 years of sailing.. Mind you I am a lightweight. I do go out in strong winds but was a whimp in the surf..

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
19 Oct 2012 3:12PM
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I have two carbon booms,a Chinnok 170-236 that is 4 years old and a smaller North carbon 165-205 that i bought around 10 years ago from 2nd Wind when Steve Stratfold worked there...time does fly! Have budgeted both to see me thru to OAP status,

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
19 Oct 2012 8:30PM
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Sailhack said...
barri said...
I broke my 2010 x6 yesterday at the head. Now ive got to decide whether to go carbon so the same doesnt happen again. The curse of wavesailing...


I did the same & bought a new head (bolted fitting). I've kept it as a spare but really should get out & test it.



jsnfok said...
had my north silver HD boom for a while and im 115kgs, forwards, flakas, backloops,


show-off.


Oh and spocks, spock 540, double spock, kono, scupo, oh yes, and water starts, beach starts, carve gybe, tacks



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