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battens to long?

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Created by mort69 > 9 months ago, 16 Oct 2013
mort69
WA, 178 posts
16 Oct 2013 6:39PM
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Just got a used severne 5.3 put it on my standard mast and the batterns seem to long,I've tried the mechanicl ajustment but still way to long any ideas cheers

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:49PM
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More downhaul?

mort69
WA, 178 posts
16 Oct 2013 7:01PM
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Yep that probably it I'm having problems getting it all the way down

Zachery
597 posts
16 Oct 2013 7:57PM
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unfortunately better suited to reduced diameter mast (rdm) with correct measurement downhaul on either enigma or gorilla severne mast, as most brands are now making brand specific sails suited to their own mast bend characteristics!

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
16 Oct 2013 8:12PM
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what age Severne, what model, and what mast?

I doubt it is battens - more likely bend curve mismatch, SDM/RDM issue, or a 1990 mast / 2013 sail kinda deal.


BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
16 Oct 2013 11:41PM
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mort69 said..

Just got a used severne 5.3 put it on my standard mast and the batterns seem to long,I've tried the mechanicl ajustment but still way to long any ideas cheers


What do you mean? Are they too long so they stick out of the batten pockets or do they seem too long because they stick around the mast and you can't rotate them? Is it a wave sail or a race sail? Are there cams?

I agree with Zack/Mark/sailhack but also a bit more outhaul could help.

decrepit
WA, 12802 posts
16 Oct 2013 8:43PM
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A batten is only too long if you can't stuff all of it into the sail.
They need to go the full distance of the batten pocket or they aren't doing any good.

mort69
WA, 178 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:15PM
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No cams, old 1peice standard mast feels very rigid when down hauled,the curve in the sail is huge and the battens won't go side to side around the mast when you pop it because there's to much pressure on them.think it is 07.

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:40PM
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mort69 said..
No cams, old 1peice standard mast feels very rigid when down hauled,the curve in the sail is huge and the battens won't go side to side around the mast when you pop it because there's to much pressure on them.think it is 07.


If it is a one piece mast it will not work in any sail after about a 1987 - 1990 model.
There's ya problem.


jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
17 Oct 2013 12:46AM
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mort69 said..

No cams, old 1peice standard mast feels very rigid when down hauled,the curve in the sail is huge and the battens won't go side to side around the mast when you pop it because there's to much pressure on them.think it is 07.


geezus!

decrepit
WA, 12802 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:50PM
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Mark _australia said..

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If it is a one piece mast it will not work in any sail after about a 1987 - 1990 model.
There's ya problem.




One time I disagree Mark, you may be correct with 90% of masts, But there's a few of us still using our mid 1990s one piece Killwell matrix 5s, 70% carbon constant curve. None of the 30% glass goes up the mast, that's the carbon's job, the glass only goes around. They're slightly reduced diameter (the old windsurfer, tyransea standard), tough as nails and last for ever. All my modern sails designed to rig on constant curve masts set very well on them.
You can recognise me coming by the masts on the roof.

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:54PM
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decrepit said..
Mark _australia said..



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If it is a one piece mast it will not work in any sail after about a 1987 - 1990 model.

There's ya problem.







One time I disagree Mark, you may be correct with 90% of masts, But there's a few of us still using our mid 1990s one piece Killwell matrix 5s, 70% carbon constant curve. None of the 30% glass goes up the mast, that's the carbon's job, the glass only goes around. They're slightly reduced diameter (the old windsurfer, tyransea standard), tough as nails and last for ever. All my modern sails designed to rig on constant curve masts set very well on them.

You can recognise me coming by the masts on the roof.


Yes many people are, OK I generalised alot....

Bu if he can't downhaul it all the way and battens are WAY off the mast, I think the mast is the culprit, surely...

Your Kilwell is pretty modern anyway, I was thinking it is more likely a glass Rotho or something

mort69
WA, 178 posts
16 Oct 2013 10:12PM
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Thanks for the input legends, time to buy an rmd

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
16 Oct 2013 10:15PM
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No you don't need an RDM necessarily.
A 5 y/o 30% carbon SDM will often be stronger than the more expensive 100% carbon mast and strong enough for an intermediate windsurfer. Don't be fooled into thinking you need an RDM or a 75 - 100% mast.

What is the sail? A $100 SDM may be the best investment you make, and a $500 RDM a waste of money. MAYbe.

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
16 Oct 2013 10:50PM
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Mark _australia said..

No you don't need an RDM necessarily.
A 5 y/o 30% carbon SDM will often be stronger than the more expensive 100% carbon mast and strong enough for an intermediate windsurfer. Don't be fooled into thinking you need an RDM or a 75 - 100% mast.

What is the sail? A $100 SDM may be the best investment you make, and a $500 RDM a waste of money. MAYbe.



The important thing is to get a mast with the same bend curve as the sail. Preferably the same brand.

mort69
WA, 178 posts
17 Nov 2013 3:06PM
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The mast I was using was a Roto cup,German,old one piece with a larger diameter than std,just fitted it to 2piece and looks pretty good

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
17 Nov 2013 9:39PM
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I think I mentioned Rotho masts.
Bloody good cut into 3ft lengths for beach rod holders



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