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Rig lost at Dutch Inn

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Created by StuHolloway > 9 months ago, 24 Feb 2013
StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
24 Feb 2013 8:13PM
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I managed to break a mast foot about 1km of Dutch Inn today (Sunday 24th Feb). This left me with little choice but to dump the rig and paddle in. Thanks to the 2 Windsurfers who stopped to try and help.
If anyone hears about the rig washing up (my guess anywhere between Cottesloe and Trigg) then I'd really appreciate the call - number below. I dunno, maybe it'll just sink!
Sail is a Gaastra Manic 5m 2011 (White & Red) with a Gaastra 4m Mast.
Cheers
Stu
0407 293 755

Obelix
WA, 1149 posts
9 Mar 2013 12:14PM
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Hi StuHollway

Just got back from Cottesloe. Went diving and found your gear on the bottom.
The sail top panel has a hole, but the rest is all good.

A bit of sea grass started growing on it, but clears up easily.

I was about to advertise it to "whoever can describe it", but no need any more.

PM me for my address so you can pick it up.

tomp
NSW, 692 posts
9 Mar 2013 5:03PM
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what a find!

big on the beer ecomony!!

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
9 Mar 2013 2:15PM
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awesome find!
I wanna know if Obelix sat on the bottom and derigged same as you would on dry land, dragged it out as-is (bloody hard I imagine).... ?

If in good nick you are very lucky, heaps of gear on the reef at Lano and it looks fine until you turn it over and one side is ground flat from rubbing on the bottom. Lots of half masts ad half booms, carbon doesn't last long

Obelix
WA, 1149 posts
9 Mar 2013 3:11PM
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It was half covered by sand. 7-8m deep.
After I pulled it out, it was easy to drag it slowly to the shore. Only a few 00 meters.

The mast is in brand new condition.

Stu , thanks for the beer

paddymac
WA, 941 posts
9 Mar 2013 3:35PM
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Hah, Obelix just spoke to Stu and he's stoked. You could have taken to work and given it to him then... considering you both work for the same company and do the same job

StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
9 Mar 2013 3:36PM
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Thanks again Obelix.
I still can't believe you found the rig and managed to get it ashore. My lucky day!
Enjoy the beer!

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
10 Mar 2013 3:24PM
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Obelix you must have been really excited to be able to return the rig to it's owner.
That's at least three amazing 'rig-lost-at-sea returned to owner' stories I've heard lately.
We should compile them into a thread/ book somewhere.

showpony
WA, 35 posts
10 Mar 2013 3:54PM
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Windxtasy said...
Obelix you must have been really excited to be able to return the rig to it's owner.
That's at least three amazing 'rig-lost-at-sea returned to owner' stories I've heard lately.
We should compile them into a thread/ book somewhere.




I have dumped my rig (powerex mast, 5.7 Severne Blade, Chinook boom) in Lano (somewhere outside between Mainbreak and Hole in the wall) in Novmeber and haven't reported my tragic loss as I thought that it had sunk straight away.
Anyway, now I feel encouraged - let me know if it has turned up somewhere between Wedge and Gero (or Exmouth).

Obelix
WA, 1149 posts
10 Mar 2013 4:29PM
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Windxtasy said...
Obelix you must have been really excited to be able to return the rig to it's owner.


It's a pity actually, the mast was exquisite.

I need a 7.5m sail, so if anyone has lost one, please let me know where ...

ash
NSW, 64 posts
10 Mar 2013 8:53PM
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Stu, You should post a link to the footage of your big swim to round out this cool story. Does the footage include the vomit at the end?

StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
10 Mar 2013 10:39PM
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Ok Ash here it is. Only my 2nd attempt at GoPro, so not that flash. The UJ breaks about 30 seconds into the clip, and yep there is a spew at the end, but luckily only on audio!

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
10 Mar 2013 11:08PM
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Looks like the tendon didn't break... what did?

StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
10 Mar 2013 11:43PM
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The bolt on the bottom of the UJ snapped. That's why the safety strap around the UJ didn't help

westhammer
WA, 506 posts
11 Mar 2013 12:27AM
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Stu ,,why did you dump the rig!

deejay8204
QLD, 557 posts
11 Mar 2013 7:02AM
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westhammer said...
Stu ,,why did you dump the rig!


Was it not possible to derig and paddle the lot in?

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
11 Mar 2013 8:44AM
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deejay8204 said...
westhammer said...
Stu ,,why did you dump the rig!


Was it not possible to derig and paddle the lot in?


I did this once and derigged, paddled in. Took me quite a while, but I made it. Actually had snapped the mast.

Really enjoyed this read, also loved the GoPro footage. Glad it was a happy ending for you Stu.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
11 Mar 2013 6:10AM
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-1 for the 2 bolt mast base.

2qik4u
33 posts
11 Mar 2013 8:42AM
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I have had this happen several times over the years, de rigging in strong winds and choppy seas can be chaos trying to hold board then de rig holding mast,boom,extension, roll sail up, etc.

I found what has worked for me is to tie the down haul rope to the rear foot strap that way it stays together, and paddle in towing the rig and stay in between the waves, if ya catch a wave . you end up with the rig over taking you

Have used this method in 35knts, 4-5ft surf and made it safely back to the beach

StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:53AM
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deejay8204 said...
westhammer said...
Stu ,,why did you dump the rig!


Was it not possible to derig and paddle the lot in?


In the past I've broken masts, booms and UJs at Lancelin and Dutchies and Coros, and each time I've managed to paddle in with the rig too. The difference this time was how far out I was. Took me almost an hour to paddle the board in. My RRD is only 77 litres, and I'm 80kg, so it would definitely be a challenge to get the rig in over that distance. In this case I put my safety first... maybe I'm getting old

Rus13b
NSW, 271 posts
11 Mar 2013 5:40PM
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Why didnt one of the other guys sailing there tow it in for u. Wounld'nt
have been hard, tie down haul around back strap & go. its slow but u
have ya rig.
maybe its a WA thing, Diff here if someone
brakes stuff.

Yuppy
VIC, 668 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:47PM
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Hats off to you obelix.

Stu, if I was there I would have towed your kit in for you.

jimbob SA
SA, 1000 posts
12 Mar 2013 12:50AM
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Rus13b said...
Why didnt one of the other guys sailing there tow it in for u. Wounld'nt
have been hard, tie down haul around back strap & go. its slow but u
have ya rig.
maybe its a WA thing, Diff here if someone
brakes stuff.


same here in SA last easter I broke a mast out the back of surfbeach at beachport and had help straight away, timmy towed my sail in and scotty helped me in on my board. fantastic effort in a good cross shore swell.
i was quite happy to sit on the board and come in around the bay a bit but the guys where very persistent that that would help out.

StuHolloway
WA, 11 posts
12 Mar 2013 2:13PM
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I thought it was great of the 2 guys to stop and help as they did. One bloke suggested trying to tow the rig in, but it was my decision to dump it. I've never seen a small waveboard towing a rig through the water but I guess it's something to try if it ever happens again !
BTW, I've also been told that you can waterstart and sail with a broken rig lying against the sail and inside the boom of a good rig.... masts and booms close together... anyone else tried this?

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
12 Mar 2013 7:37PM
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StuHolloway said...
I thought it was great of the 2 guys to stop and help as they did. One bloke suggested trying to tow the rig in, but it was my decision to dump it. I've never seen a small waveboard towing a rig through the water but I guess it's something to try if it ever happens again !
BTW, I've also been told that you can waterstart and sail with a broken rig lying against the sail and inside the boom of a good rig.... masts and booms close together... anyone else tried this?


explain that last bit again Stu . . . . ?

paddymac
WA, 941 posts
12 Mar 2013 9:44PM
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StuHolloway said...
.. maybe I'm getting old

I can confirm this


Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
13 Mar 2013 9:54AM
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This might sound stupid, but surely there would be a way to lash the base to the mast track to get you in? Using uphaul/rope, put a large knot that slides into the track & lash it around the base a few times? (clove hitch, prussik etc.?) It wouldn't be pretty, but should get you up & sailing - carefully.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8292 posts
13 Mar 2013 11:01AM
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StuHolloway said...
Ok Ash here it is. Only my 2nd attempt at GoPro, so not that flash. The UJ breaks about 30 seconds into the clip, and yep there is a spew at the end, but luckily only on audio!




I'm exhausted just watching! Memories of when my rig separated off Coal Pt I couldnt catch the board and dragged my sea anchor of a rig in. It was only a few hundred metres and on a lake in 25kts of wind but..
Be a long paddle in the surf.
Lucky for me a boat went and caught my board ( several kms away by then) & bought it back.

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
13 Mar 2013 11:45AM
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Sputnik11 said...
StuHolloway said...
I thought it was great of the 2 guys to stop and help as they did. One bloke suggested trying to tow the rig in, but it was my decision to dump it. I've never seen a small waveboard towing a rig through the water but I guess it's something to try if it ever happens again !
BTW, I've also been told that you can waterstart and sail with a broken rig lying against the sail and inside the boom of a good rig.... masts and booms close together... anyone else tried this?


explain that last bit again Stu . . . . ?




Yup, I can confirm that this is possible. I've rescued two rigs this year by doing this.

1) If the rig to be rescued is the same size or smaller than the good rig, undo the outhaul on the rig to be rescued. Extend the boom by 20 cm. Retighten the outhaul if possible. This is so you can do step 2.

2) Slot the rig to be rescued over the top of the good rig. Put the mast on the leeward side of the good rig. Because the boom has been lengthened the boom of the rescued rig should sit right on top of the boom of the good rig.

3) Kick like hell to waterstart. Sail in and secure the rescued rig on the beach.

4) Sail back out to keep an eye on your new best friend as they paddle home on their board. Option is to tow them home if possible.

5) Enjoy carton of beer you've earned for your efforts.

Squid Lips
WA, 708 posts
13 Mar 2013 1:27PM
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Sailhack said...
This might sound stupid, but surely there would be a way to lash the base to the mast track to get you in? Using uphaul/rope, put a large knot that slides into the track & lash it around the base a few times? (clove hitch, prussik etc.?) It wouldn't be pretty, but should get you up & sailing - carefully.


I did this a long time ago, probably with the old Tyronsea base; tied the downhaul under the deck plate. It's bloody hard to tie it tight so there is minimal slack between the mast base and board, while being washed around. Got me back in but with a nice hole in the deck (of the first brand new board I ever bought, while still quite new ) from the sail bouncing, luckily it was old school surfboard construction so easy fix.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
13 Mar 2013 4:33PM
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FlickySpinny said...
Sputnik11 said...
StuHolloway said...
I thought it was great of the 2 guys to stop and help as they did. One bloke suggested trying to tow the rig in, but it was my decision to dump it. I've never seen a small waveboard towing a rig through the water but I guess it's something to try if it ever happens again !
BTW, I've also been told that you can waterstart and sail with a broken rig lying against the sail and inside the boom of a good rig.... masts and booms close together... anyone else tried this?


explain that last bit again Stu . . . . ?




Yup, I can confirm that this is possible. I've rescued two rigs this year by doing this.

1) If the rig to be rescued is the same size or smaller than the good rig, undo the outhaul on the rig to be rescued. Extend the boom by 20 cm. Retighten the outhaul if possible. This is so you can do step 2.

2) Slot the rig to be rescued over the top of the good rig. Put the mast on the leeward side of the good rig. Because the boom has been lengthened the boom of the rescued rig should sit right on top of the boom of the good rig.

3) Kick like hell to waterstart. Sail in and secure the rescued rig on the beach.

4) Sail back out to keep an eye on your new best friend as they paddle home on their board. Option is to tow them home if possible.

5) Enjoy carton of beer you've earned for your efforts.


That makes sense - and a good one for the memory bank, thanks. So basically, you thread the detached rig down (or up) through the gap between your sail & boom & fasten booms with the outhaul, or (in theory) it should just stay there. Grip both booms for the trip back in.



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