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REWARDED, The Movie.

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Created by jh2703 > 9 months ago, 23 Oct 2012
jh2703
NSW, 1225 posts
23 Oct 2012 9:13PM
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http://www.rewarded-movie.com/

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
23 Oct 2012 8:44PM
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Make sure you donate people's !!!!!!

windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
24 Oct 2012 9:24AM
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What a great role model for young kids...

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
24 Oct 2012 11:03AM
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What a story...very humbling. And some of, if not best footage I've ever seen. The slow motion parts in particular.

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
24 Oct 2012 8:35AM
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divaldo said...
Make sure you donate people's !!!!!!


I second that. Make sure you give some money. They could have sold this for $30 a pop but instead decided to distribute digitally to reach more people. Show them you support their efforts by giving back some.

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Oct 2012 8:04PM
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divaldo said...
Make sure you donate people's !!!!!!


Or just enjoy the sponsor funded movie (advert), good as it is, but send your money to somewhere it might make a difference www.worldvision.org

apaskowski
21 posts
24 Oct 2012 8:03PM
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DrJ said...
divaldo said...
Make sure you donate people's !!!!!!


Or just enjoy the sponsor funded movie (advert), good as it is, but send your money to somewhere it might make a difference www.worldvision.org




Sponsor funded? Somebody knows more then me. 25%yes 75% privet financed by me. It would be my dream, to work on a project which is totally sponsor funded. But that I will not experience. I my Movies, DVDs have been mostly privately financed.

Just wanted to post what is real.

If you donate or not - is up to you. We want people mainly to enjoy the work. Yes and donating for world vision is very nice as well.

All the best

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
24 Oct 2012 10:42PM
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You seriously don't get it do you DR J?

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
25 Oct 2012 12:22AM
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divaldo said...
You seriously don't get it do you DR J?


What ? And you do? There is not actually very much to get.

Ok so the movie was only 25% financed, but lets face it you don't make movies like this because you need the cash, it's a marketing tool for the sailor, the sponsor and the film maker. It's made because of love of the sport. Windsurfing lends itself to film making, and a backstory like this one writes itself. If we could, we would all do it, as is evident by the proliferation of cheap broadcast quality cameras and the hundreds of home grown windsurfing movies ... Many of which have incredible production values, it amazing what you can do with a couple of go pros , and an iMac for a total outlay of a few grand!

I like the movie, its grand, it makes me want to buy a fanatic and resent the fact that I have to work 7.5 hours a day. It also makes me appreciate the insignificance of my first world problems. What the film shows me, aside from the fact that I am quite s**t at windsurfing, that given the opportunity, and the drive it is possible, even against the odds, to claw your way from poverty and misfortune. But , and here's the kicker... You have to have the opportunity in the first place.

Gollito was given that opportunity by someone at some point, and he's done well with it. All I am saying is give an opportunity to someone else. Windsurfing movies will be made whether you donate or not, let fanatic, neil pryde, whoever, pay for there own adverts.

By donating to world vision or similar you are giving another child that same opportunity to make a better life for themselves and there families...

Now if Andre Paskawski never makes another film, and never travels to exotic windsurfing locations again because I persuaded 2 people to donate to a charity ... Well my bad ... Yep blame me. However, that's never going to happen is it Andre?

And red thumbs don't stop me sleeping at night, so go ahead.

brett_perth
WA, 37 posts
24 Oct 2012 10:29PM
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I'm so stoked to watch that movie. Everything about it is remarkable.

If I had to explain windsurfing to someone, I'd just ask them to watch that movie.

and yeah... sadly, not everyone gets it.

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
25 Oct 2012 8:14AM
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Awesome movie, and great to see a side of Gollito we haven't seen before. Unfortunately makes me feel worse about my sailing, he's sticking what looked like clean loops when he was what, 13? So much catching up to do

DrJ said...
divaldo said...
You seriously don't get it do you DR J?


What ? And you do? There is not actually very much to get.

Ok so the movie was only 25% financed, but lets face it you don't make movies like this because you need the cash, it's a marketing tool for the sailor, the sponsor and the film maker.



Uh...

So explain to me why Andre doesn't need the cash? He's just like everyone else, and needs to make a living somehow, he just does it with his films.

Seriously, you need to pull your head in, if you don't have anything positive to say, log out. Stop posting stupid comments.

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
25 Oct 2012 1:01PM
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DrJ said...
divaldo said...
You seriously don't get it do you DR J?


What ? And you do? There is not actually very much to get.



Great movie, well done Andre. You can certainly expect a donation from me.

Wow DrJ, what an interesting perspective you have. While World Vision is a very worthy charity (yes I do sponsor a child in Haiti via World Vision), I don't see what it has to do with donating to a film maker to assist with the costs of producing such a movie.

But then I do see that if someone does a day's work that another person enjoys some value from, well that person should generally get paid for that work. Maybe you don't follow the same philosophy, in which case I would expect you go to work for free each day of your life. But I assume that is probably not the case. It seems you have missed the point that the donation is to help Andre continue to do what he does in creating there films that we all enjoy, not to lift anyone from poverty, or to offer anyone an opportunity to live a different life than they may otherwise be descend to.

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
25 Oct 2012 12:16PM
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DrJ said...
Ok so the movie was only 25% financed, but lets face it you don't make movies like this because you need the cash, it's a marketing tool for the sailor, the sponsor and the film maker. It's made because of love of the sport. Windsurfing lends itself to film making, and a backstory like this one writes itself.


This is more akin to paying a rental fee or a tip you give a busker in the street. But then again I guess you wouldn't do that either. Would it really hurt to give $5? The cost of a coffee? You did watch didn't you? I guess you'd rather watch a 20 minute video of some vomit inducing GoPro video.

BTW, have you ever looked into the funding structure of larger non profit organisations? Most of the small donations go directly towards raising more funding from larger pots of money. So the notion that a $2 donation goes directly to the needy is completely false.

One of these reasons why I generally only give money to organisations where I know the money will help.

But I divert... great work Andre. Love the cinematography. I know how much work goes into producing a quality and enjoyable film. Hence why I put in a donation.

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
25 Oct 2012 6:03PM
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Yep love your work Andre and many healing vibes to you mate, may you make many great movies like this well into the future. I donated a nice sum

DrJ...really...? Clown.

JustinL
NSW, 468 posts
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25 Oct 2012 6:48PM
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Great movie, loved it.
Andre, your not just a great windsurfer but a awesome filmmaker as well!
How good is free style? Incredible!

We have to get some local comps going in NSW, sure its not going to look like Golitto's gear but we have to start somewhere.

apaskowski
21 posts
25 Oct 2012 5:59PM
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Hi. Thanks for the mostly positive feedback. Just wanted to give some further feedback.

I know it was a risk to get comments like the "DR J" one when we saw no other why then the donation way. We also could have made a dvd and sell it for 30$ or put it on Itunes.

I thought this movie should go out to a wider audience. Some who are the regular DVD Buyers and the other once who enjoy watching GoPro and Iphone Movies. The only way this was going to work was to give it out free and let the user decide. DRJ We are fine with people who watch that movie over and over again but do not donate. No problems at all.

But if you see the backside of the story then I believe Windsurfing can not only be shown by Homemade Movies. Storys like the Gollito one need to be shown in perfection. Great Light, great angle, great mix of normal motion and slow motion, great story telling which requires knowledge of editing together with music which has to be legal and licensed and not stolen. Thats my approach to make movies. Everything else is nice but it does not show Windsurfing the way I see windsurfing: Beautiful, Nature oriented, a time to meet Friends and get out of normal life.

Unfortunately Windsurfing does not offer Production Budgets high enough to ensure all requirements for good movie making. I tried to change that - not possible. So there is 2 ways: way 1 - be cool with it and lower all standard or way 2 - put in your own money and make sure all looks like it should look.

Not many people can go way 2. Just because they have to feed a family and pay the rent. Making movies is not a Hobby - It is a job were we also work 10 hr a day behind a desk in cold and rainy germany for 4 month to get the editing done.

As my own life prediction is not really bright - I can go way 2. I put in money which I saved over the more successful windsurfing days in the past and let my movies look like i imagine them. Normally - as I said - I refinanced parts of it by the sells of DVD´s this time we wanted to go to a wider audience and Donations was the only way I saw.

I can not handle a situation were you dream and imagine something but limit is because of missing budget.

This is not a sponsor video. It is not a advert for me or Fanatic or North. If you see it that way - thats good for Fanatic and North. You should write them and tell them "i want to buy a board because I saw that movie". For me this movie is Made because I love Windsurfing, Movie Making and Gollito is my best friend.

On our last DVD we had 3 Neil Pryde riders included because I thought Ricardo, Kauli and Köster are Talents who need Minutes of excellent film making in feature films like Minds Wide Open. As you know Neil Pryde is nr.1 concurrent to North - which is my private Sponsor.

More important then the money fact is - the Movie. I would like to see, that people understand the movie - all if it. The incredible Power og Gollito tell for first time his moving story. On top captured in way which i did not see in previous productions.

as I am german my english limits a bit my message and If people really want - they sure find ways to see something inside which i did not want to express. Anyway. Good Evening in Australia, Andre

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
25 Oct 2012 8:45PM
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Great words Andre, I for one truly admire what you are doing, both with a camera and in your own personal fight.

Putting this out there for all to enjoy, and for those that can afford to donate seems very fitting given the content of the movie and Gollito's own life. If you can afford it, throw a few dollars the way of the film maker, if for nothing else than to help subsidise stuff like this for those who can't afford it so they too can continue to enjoy great movies like this.

Andre, on a personal note, I wish you all the best with your fight. My mother is currently battling cancer so I have been thrust into the ever increasing group of people that have been touched in some way by this hideous disease. I am truly impressed by both your, and her focus on making the most of each and every day, and not letting the inevitable define who you are from here on out.

Already looking forward to the next movie!!!

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
25 Oct 2012 7:42PM
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Andre,

you might want to get in touch with Fuel TV here in Australia. It's a pay TV channel on the Foxtel network with a focus on action sports. Not sure who their content buyer is but that shouldn't be hard to find out.

They might be interested in licensing Rewarded as well as your other productions.

I know music licensing can be a pain once you start reselling to TV markets but it might be worth a shot.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
25 Oct 2012 11:03PM
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What about monetarisation on utube? If a video gets alot of views and its all original content then there will be some sort of payment from Google. I've got no idea how much its worth but its worth considering.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
26 Oct 2012 9:29AM
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Well said Andre,

Although such an articulate post is wasted in responding to Drj.

His comments about donations being better spent on starving Africans are just him sitting on his high horse..

Ignoring the fact that World Vision, and most foreign aid is bunk, there's always people who spout annoying phrases like "Why save the rhinoceros when there are so many hungry people" or, "I can't believe you bought that hat, don't you know there are starving Africans??"

To these Cretins, the only acceptable donation is the one spent on the most miserable person in the world. Somewhere in Bangladesh there is a mother of 15, she's also a quadruple amputee, blind and death, with a tooth ache. And she deserves your money more than whatever it is you're currently donating to.

Love the vids, keep burning the candle at both ends..

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
26 Oct 2012 1:25PM
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I also look at Wikipedia and have never contributed to that either [}:)]

Reflex Films
WA, 1459 posts
26 Oct 2012 10:55AM
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Mobydisc said...
What about monetarisation on utube? If a video gets alot of views and its all original content then there will be some sort of payment from Google. I've got no idea how much its worth but its worth considering.



the rates are pathetic. Not even worth mentioning unless you are getting millions of views...

Reflex Films
WA, 1459 posts
26 Oct 2012 7:59PM
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By all rights Mr Paskowski should have done very well from his awesome film making efforts in the past.

Instead he has probably been lucky to break even - and i would say that all his efforts have probably cost him money - or if he has made money its probably been around $5 per hour.

The problem is that the market is BROKEN. And the culprit is big business and lawyers.

(I studied economics at university) - In simple terms - if you have a situation where 2 parties are in a position to gain -ie win win

but cant transact

- then the market is inefficient.

Usually its a knowledge Gap (insider trading, cronyism) or a monopoly on resources ( in this case publishing and music rights locked down by inflexible faceless large organisations that suddenly arent making so much money due to file sharing)

Most of Andre's work will have gone towards putting money in the coffers of these big organisations because he has done the right thing and played by their rules. Ie paid the huge upfront music licensing fees that they demand

Because he is so passionate - with an awesome vision about movie making- he has been willing actually pay for the privilege of making some beautiful films. Its a crazy situation.

To clear a song there is usually a minimum of 2 parties to clear - the publishers who own the rights and the credited song writer. so you write to them - dont hear back for 3 months and then eventually get hit with a quote that would kill all your profit on the venture (back when DVDs sold well) just for 1 song - and you need to clear 10 more of these tracks.

The companies arent interested in smaller operators or being flexible - or even reasonable.

Most people WANT to pay for good content (look at the success of itunes) - or at least a big enough proportion to make the market viable

The funny thing is most of the humans that created the music - would be stoked to see it used in the proposed context (in Andres case - although maybe not in the case of an ACDC track set to 3 minutes of Gopro footage looking at a kites rails spitting out water)

So we have what would be a win win situation - sabotaged by inflexible big corporations (the same ones squealing about file sharing )

I have a feeling the internet will find a solution in time - but right now its an unnecessary situation.

Andre - i take my hat off to you.








firiebob
WA, 3177 posts
26 Oct 2012 9:57PM
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I watched, I enjoyed, I donated, simple really

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
27 Oct 2012 7:14AM
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top stuff Andre, I hope you get the chance to make many more....

best wishes



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