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Oh no! Adjustable outhaul again

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Created by sboardcrazy > 9 months ago, 15 Jan 2014
sboardcrazy
NSW, 8292 posts
15 Jan 2014 10:54AM
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I've been using a loft sails one on one side only.( and love it when I set it up ok..)
I'm trying to find a diagram of how they suggest to feed the outhaul through clew rollers...
I have a gun boom.
I've been to their website and can't find anything , emailed them no answer. Anyone got any info?
I have been threading it through on instinct and it went well at first but now I seem to have got alzeimers and stuffed up and it's slipping..
2 out of 3 sails don't need the line threaded through ( have clips you just loop over)..Its only one.
Yes and I'm going to get the applecore thingy so I just need a bit of help until then..
I've got the line tied to the webbing all the time and undo the outhaul end and feed it through and then cleat it off. Is that the way your supposed to do it?

jusavina
QLD, 1494 posts
15 Jan 2014 11:44AM
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Have you tried the forum's search function?

A picture worth a thousand words if you can make one of your clew sail and boom.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
15 Jan 2014 12:08PM
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Different brand but same similar (loft sans pulleys) http://www.sailworks.com/adjustable-outhaul

lao shi
WA, 1343 posts
15 Jan 2014 10:51AM
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sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
15 Jan 2014 12:55PM
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lao shi said..




Ha love the music title to that vid Lao

NotWal
QLD, 7435 posts
15 Jan 2014 3:07PM
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That vid shows a simple 2:1 threading. There's no way in the world you can pull that on on the fly. You have to drop into the water to do it.
You can use a longer outhaul line and use all 3 pulleys. You just have to be careful not to cross the lines.

Lets see, how to describe it without a drawing.
You have 3 pulleys Starboard, Centre and Port. S and P are on the underside and C is on the top. You have a cleat beside C (port side). You have sail clew cringle H.
Tie the outhaul gubbins to the same side of the boom as the cleat (port side). Tie outhaul line to the outhaul strap then thread it thus:
1) To P enter port side exit starboard then to H enter port exit starboard.
2) To S enter port exit starboard then to H enter starboard exit port laying line above the previous.
3) To C enter port exit starboard then to H enter starboard exit port laying line above the previous 2 then to cleat.

Of course yours may be different.

snake
WA, 46 posts
15 Jan 2014 1:36PM
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sboardcrazy said..

I've been using a loft sails one on one side only.( and love it when I set it up ok..)
I'm trying to find a diagram of how they suggest to feed the outhaul through clew rollers...
I have a gun boom.
I've been to their website and can't find anything , emailed them no answer. Anyone got any info?
I have been threading it through on instinct and it went well at first but now I seem to have got alzeimers and stuffed up and it's slipping..
2 out of 3 sails don't need the line threaded through ( have clips you just loop over)..Its only one.
Yes and I'm going to get the applecore thingy so I just need a bit of help until then..
I've got the line tied to the webbing all the time and undo the outhaul end and feed it through and then cleat it off. Is that the way your supposed to do it?


Hi Sboardcrazy,
FWIW I was shredding a rope a week without applecores on my loft sails - they're definitely worth the purchase. Without them, adjusting on the fly is all but impossible, especially if you've set it up so that it only passes through the clew eyelet once, like in the video Lao posted. This is because the eyelet isn't smooth like an apple core roller and the rope passes around it at a sharp angle, so the ropes will overlap, causing them to resist motion and wear out.
My advice: wait for the core and then run a good length of rope as follows:
* start at attachment point (the adjustable outhaul attachment point)
* run out and though boom end pulley
* run back around one side of the core
* back through another boom end pulley
* run back around the other side of the core
* finally, back to the boom end to cleat and tie off securely.

I always make sure to give the cleat rope a good tug into the cleat from the sail side to make sure it's gripping well too. So long as the ropes don't overlap horribly between the boom and the applecore (might have to try a few different configurations here depending on the boom), then you'll be in a much better place IMO.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8292 posts
16 Jan 2014 8:48AM
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Thanks everyone!
Lao the boom I use has rollers rather than the the system you use although my smaller one is the same.Great idea putting the shockcord under the harness velcro!
I'll order a applecore thingy to day . Yes it is hard to pull on the fly..I did notice the clew lines crossover so things don't run easily.
I did google but that was for a 2 sided chinook ( pics of threading).
Snake I wasn't checking the grip on the outhaul cleat so it may have been slipping there as well.I'll double check that now too.



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