For the Perth guys who are setting up kids club.
This is no means authoritative and other people will have different views but this is what we learnt from teaching kids over three ish seasons... (we run a weekly/fortnightly session all through summer and we've been doing it three years - credit to Jerzy for being the guy who runs it - I just turn up and teach)
This worked for kids from 6 up to 12
Very light winds (think only just making ripples)
Board with some resistance in the middle (centre fin on windsup) or daggerboard - ideally a board that they paddle about on so they know where to stand etc
Tiny fin at back (boom is very short and they can't sink tail - therefore they can't turn upwind by raking sail if fin stops board from sliding)
Sail somewhere where you can walk upwind - and get used to the idea that you will be walking upwind
Obviously aim for somewhere where they are in their depth
Teaching
Explain all the words that you're going to use on the water before you are on the water
Explain the wind direction every time, on the beach before you launch
Don't talk too much
Don't talk in sentences (see below)
Don't worry about bad habits - kids seem to form and reform habits all the time. It's only dumb adults that get entrenched
Don't worry about the little bits between the main techniques eg how they climb the uphaul to get their hands on the mast is irrelevant.
Talk them into a sailing position and moving but then get them to relax afterwards (because they often end up tense after being set up moving)
Teach them to gybe first (little sails don't exert much leverage so a gybe where you swing it around the front is faster because of leverage). Don't call it a gybe - they don't care - this is boring.
Point out which end of the board is the front
Physically - never support a child upright or hold onto a board. If they need to be put in the right position, then give them a shove. The reason is that kids are smart and you are stronger. If you offer a solid thing to lean against, then they commit all their weight to it and you realise that you have an eight year old hanging off your arm and a board drifting down wind.
Loads of encouragement
For the first run a kid does - do not follow them walking, if anything WALK BACKWARDS because it gives them a better sense of achievement of how far they have sailed...
Aim to point them at a beach (it's safer and you can ask them to aim at landmarks)
Encourage them to lean back and use their body weight by having mini tugs of war
Use ten commands (get everyone to agree to these if there are more adults around - because otherwise it is confusing for the kids)
Practice all of these on the beach before you go out with the rig.
DROP IT - most important command. It means let go of the sail.
SECURE - two hands on mast
BOSS HAND - the front hand. (Shouting boss hand means focus on the front hand. From SECURE it means put it on the boom. During a gust it means let go of the back hand - you don't need to explain all this. They won't listen.)
SHEET IN - pull in gently with the back hand (done after BOSS HAND)
STEP AWAY - move away from the mast foot
RAKE - tilt the rig back (to head upwind)
STRETCH - tilt the rig forward (to go downwind)
OTHER SIDE - move your hands to the other side of the boom (often used to stop them when they grab the wrong side with the BOSS HAND but also this will initiate a gybe - basically, they reach around the boom and pull in and the board comes around)
SWING - swing the rig around the front or the back of the board (front will be faster)
LOOK COOL - smile and look forward at the horizon
DROP IT - just re-iterating this one....
The main thing is that kids will learn to windsurf in spite of your teaching so just give them really light pointers and make sure the conditions are right.
thats a sweet read man, to me, it looks like you've created a great atmosphere for the kids............im gunna have to seriously work on my, "LOOK COOL"
Great stuff!
Who are the Perth guys setting up a kids club? Count me in with my 6yo.
One more observation - kids love to learn with a bunch of other kids!
This is a fantastic program that is very popular because of the very generous commitment from the windsurfing victoria team of talented,enthusiastic and inspirational volunteers.We were fortunate to join in one sunday last season and my kids had a ball with about 20 others.As soon as you have a decent sized group the enthusiasm increases with kids even fighting for "who's go next"! They organized Allison Shreeve to pop in for a visit.The kids loved asking her questions about olympic training and the bass straight crossing .
My kids had watched a lot of Dora the Explorer so the were able to easily understand the 10 commandments in Mexican![]()
I have taken some footage of my 7 year old daughter I will try to edit and put together in the next week.She has been super enthusiastic this summer.
Watch out little boys,she is pretty quick,13 knots with a trainer sail.Her brother never managed to plane till he got the XS-1 power rig! Elli has now started to use the XS-1 and a 70 l kids board .She is not phased with 25 knots,she would go out in more if she had a sail smaller than a 1m.
WWA is looking at ways to rebuild a junior fleet and we all now have family's who want to sail. If you are interesting in getting involved and helping out with a junior program, please email Info@windsurfingWA.org.au and we will keep you posted on what we have planned.
The Victorian programe and the T15 in the UK are leading lights for junior development so the benchmark has been set high. We have the conditions, just need to get kids AND people in general on the water.
The program would be nothing if not for the stores and volunteers that have given up their Sunday mornings to get out on the water.
We have learnt a lot over the last 3 years and constantly working on developing the program further, making it more fun and inclusive.
Kids love windsurfing around other kids, so its never a chore to get them to kids club Sundays.
Dont make them go out in poor conditions, they will just end up dissapointed.
KEEP THEM WARM! Get them a steamer, becuase they will be cold after 2 hours in the water, unless the water is over 24 degrees.
Get them a rig and set it up in your yard. Let them play with it. make it there an accessable. Dry land practice excellent for their confidence in rig handling.
Try not to teach you own kids if you have a choice. They are more likely to listen to the instructions of another adult authority other than their parents.
Dont force them to do anything they dont want to. They will hat you for it, and as a result they will hate windsurfing too.
Try to keep the negative experiences to a minimum while they are still starting out. When they build up resilence and confidence thats when you can throw some challenges at them.
Spend heaps of time in the water, not just windsurfing, but having fun.
Let them see you do it as much as possible. Keep them included in your windsurfing life.
Just some more points to add to the to-do register.
WWA is looking at ways to rebuild a junior fleet and we all now have family's who want to sail. If you are interesting in getting involved and helping out with a junior program, please email Info@windsurfingWA.org.au and we will keep you posted on what we have planned.
The Victorian programe and the T15 in the UK are leading lights for junior development so the benchmark has been set high. We have the conditions, just need to get kids AND people in general on the water.
Cheers GP, great info!!
Thanks for linking to my thread, WWA. Sounds exciting!
I believe that with this social network in place and with regular impromptu gatherings in an exciting range of locations around the state from week to week, with guidance and support from WWA and its members, regional clubs can eventually be formed. The reward for regional retailers supporting those clubs, their training academies and events, is boosted and sustainable commerce going forward.
I truly believe that Winsurfing can be bigger in WA than it ever was and clearly we have enough existing young and veteran talent to underpin it. I hope there are others here that also think that there are a significant number of SUPers and people looking at SUPing to get into, that are potential Windsurfing people too. If we could have 10% of those, we would have a re-birth of windsurfing. I believe getting SUP's on the water alongside windsurfers is essential too!!
Just to be clear - ManOverBoard your thread was initiated and now WWA is on it also? Not separate things? WWA I offered him, do I need to email you also?
The program would be nothing if not for the stores and volunteers that have given up their Sunday mornings to get out on the water.
We have learnt a lot over the last 3 years and constantly working on developing the program further, making it more fun and inclusive.
Kids love windsurfing around other kids, so its never a chore to get them to kids club Sundays.
Dont make them go out in poor conditions, they will just end up dissapointed.
KEEP THEM WARM! Get them a steamer, becuase they will be cold after 2 hours in the water, unless the water is over 24 degrees.
Get them a rig and set it up in your yard. Let them play with it. make it there an accessable. Dry land practice excellent for their confidence in rig handling.
Try not to teach you own kids if you have a choice. They are more likely to listen to the instructions of another adult authority other than their parents.
Dont force them to do anything they dont want to. They will hat you for it, and as a result they will hate windsurfing too.
Try to keep the negative experiences to a minimum while they are still starting out. When they build up resilence and confidence thats when you can throw some challenges at them.
Spend heaps of time in the water, not just windsurfing, but having fun.
Let them see you do it as much as possible. Keep them included in your windsurfing life.
Just some more points to add to the to-do register.
Great words Jermaldan, this is what I've had in mind since I returned from the UK a year ago. All about fun, beit sandcastles, SUP, windsurf, snorkel, BBQ & party food, perhaps even fly a kite..waaaaay down wind, of course..
I personally do not want my vision to be to be obscured by red tape however, and therefore keen to get families together at great locations for impromptu gatherings and naturally people can feed into the broader model being developed by WWA as have you guys in Vic.
Just to be clear - ManOverBoard your thread was initiated and now WWA is on it also? Not separate things? WWA I offered him, do I need to email you also?
Hi Mark, I am just keen to get people together as per my above post. Very much social and exploring old and new ground, as we did over 20yrs ago. Without politics and red tape ie no formal 'events', as such.
I cant wait another season to get everyone together and my family needs this in order for me to be involved in windsurfing at pretty much any level.
Selfish? Maybe. But it takes a ton of energy I could otherwise put into my own businesses and my family, and I really want to share this energy and enthusiasm to benefit other families. We also just want to meet you all!
I am happy to be guided. Equally I am happy to lead, though there may be better equipped to do so.
That said, I am going to try and buy a bunch of kids rigs and if so, the gear will be with me in a 20ft ish trailer if and when there are people keen to borrow it and have a go, great! I'll let you know when and where I am and please don't hesitate to invite us to your local spots!
If there is an organised event/demo day/training or club activity, my family will certainly promote and support it, and we will be there with bells on!
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The program would be nothing if not for the stores and volunteers that have given up their Sunday mornings to get out on the water.
We have learnt a lot over the last 3 years and constantly working on developing the program further, making it more fun and inclusive.
Kids love windsurfing around other kids, so its never a chore to get them to kids club Sundays.
Dont make them go out in poor conditions, they will just end up dissapointed.
KEEP THEM WARM! Get them a steamer, becuase they will be cold after 2 hours in the water, unless the water is over 24 degrees.
Get them a rig and set it up in your yard. Let them play with it. make it there an accessable. Dry land practice excellent for their confidence in rig handling.
Try not to teach you own kids if you have a choice. They are more likely to listen to the instructions of another adult authority other than their parents.
Dont force them to do anything they dont want to. They will hat you for it, and as a result they will hate windsurfing too.
Try to keep the negative experiences to a minimum while they are still starting out. When they build up resilence and confidence thats when you can throw some challenges at them.
Spend heaps of time in the water, not just windsurfing, but having fun.
Let them see you do it as much as possible. Keep them included in your windsurfing life.
Just some more points to add to the to-do register.
Spot on Jez!
Pity the 3 of us live so far apart.I think we would get on great with MOB !
That said, I am going to try and buy a bunch of kids rigs and if so, the gear will be with me in a 20ft ish trailer.....
I've collected every kids board I have come across since 3 years before Alex started windsurfing,so if you guys know of any kids that have truley cracked it and need special boards ,I have them all.They can be easily posted around the country for kids mastering certain skills,trying diff sizes or between speed,slalom,wave,freeride or freestyle boards.
The program would be nothing if not for the stores and volunteers that have given up their Sunday mornings to get out on the water.
We have learnt a lot over the last 3 years and constantly working on developing the program further, making it more fun and inclusive.
Kids love windsurfing around other kids, so its never a chore to get them to kids club Sundays.
Dont make them go out in poor conditions, they will just end up dissapointed.
KEEP THEM WARM! Get them a steamer, becuase they will be cold after 2 hours in the water, unless the water is over 24 degrees.
Get them a rig and set it up in your yard. Let them play with it. make it there an accessable. Dry land practice excellent for their confidence in rig handling.
Try not to teach you own kids if you have a choice. They are more likely to listen to the instructions of another adult authority other than their parents.
Dont force them to do anything they dont want to. They will hat you for it, and as a result they will hate windsurfing too.
Try to keep the negative experiences to a minimum while they are still starting out. When they build up resilence and confidence thats when you can throw some challenges at them.
Spend heaps of time in the water, not just windsurfing, but having fun.
Let them see you do it as much as possible. Keep them included in your windsurfing life.
Just some more points to add to the to-do register.
Spot on Jez!
Pity the 3 of us live so far apart.I think we would get on great with MOB !
That said, I am going to try and buy a bunch of kids rigs and if so, the gear will be with me in a 20ft ish trailer.....
I've collected every kids board I have come across since 3 years before Alex started windsurfing,so if you guys know of any kids that have truley cracked it and need special boards ,I have them all.They can be easily posted around the country for kids mastering certain skills,trying diff sizes or between speed,slalom,wave,freeride or freestyle boards.
Cheers 360, thats awesome mate! We will have to talk about that for sure!
Next outing... Melville Beach, Applecross this Saturday 20th. Bring the family, food, toys and fun! I have a couple of kids wndsurfing rigs I'll bring down but please bring any manner of floating or flying craft you have to add to the mix!
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Next outing... Melville Beach, Applecross this Saturday 20th. Bring the family, food, toys and fun! I have a couple of kids wndsurfing rigs I'll bring down but please bring any manner of floating or flying craft you have to add to the mix!
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Nice all this. I have pretty much all the same tricks, developed over the years...
Also: dry land practice when the wind gets too strong. Always tell them it takes a few times, etc. Else they frustrate if not immediate. To look where you're going, rather than the rig. That's a biggie - that's when it starts working for them. Etc.
Again good list, well done.
(Oh, and: not call kids "mongrels", as couple of mothers sternly reminded me of...)