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Don't try a board if you can't afford it !!

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Created by seanhogan > 9 months ago, 5 Sep 2012
seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
5 Sep 2012 5:17PM
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Went sailing today in 15- knts with NC8 ( laurent for those who have been here).

I was using my 112 firerace with 5.7 (thought it was windier but wasn't) and he was on his V3 Xfire 102 with 5.9 o², he kicked my ass as usual but had so much more speed it was unreal. (he usually beats me but not by this much!!)

back to the beach he offered me to try his board.
Holy sh.t !! the xfire went on plane so much faster than mine and kept accelerating.... I was gutted !! less volume ans still quicker at the start.
(we both weigh 90kg)

I made sure I kept away from the shore so he couldn't call me back, I had a ball !!



When I returned to the firerace, .... not even worth mentionning...
So now I'm pissed with my board and I can't afford a new Xfire !!

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
5 Sep 2012 5:21PM
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and now everyone knows your board is a slug and wont be able to sell it!

Start saving,

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
5 Sep 2012 6:14PM
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And it's supposed to be the same shape as the Xfire (mind you mine's a year older) !!!

stehsegler
WA, 3560 posts
5 Sep 2012 4:52PM
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seanhogan said...

And it's supposed to be the same shape as the Xfire (mind you mine's a year older) !!!


and next year the boards are even better. Enjoy what you have.

DavMen
NSW, 1510 posts
5 Sep 2012 8:18PM
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ignorance is bliss

Mark _australia
WA, 23545 posts
5 Sep 2012 6:43PM
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Awww disappointed - I thought we were going to see a shop demo snapped in half

powersloshin
NSW, 1848 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:19PM
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did you try his board with his sail and fin as well or with yours? if you want to compare you need to be sure which effect each of the 3 parts has on performance

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:39PM
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powersloshin said...

did you try his board with his sail and fin as well or with yours? if you want to compare you need to be sure which effect each of the 3 parts has on performance


Power,
Great advice but my green thumb is really for your avatar - one of the funniest stories in 2012.

vando
QLD, 3419 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:40PM
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Sean Did you use your rig on it.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:46PM
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vando said...

Sean Did you use your rig on it.


And fin? I tried someone's fin once and HOLY TOLEDO what a difference! It's liek a totally different board. Makes sense when you think about what is in the water the most, especially on slalom-type gear.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:54PM
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I am excited about this RRD boards but can not find shop online and prices for two hours already.
Preferable QLD but possibly shipping from other states could be considered ( unless is too risky for this fragile board
Where to buy XFIRE V4 ?

vando
QLD, 3419 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:55PM
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evlPanda said...

vando said...

Sean Did you use your rig on it.


And fin? I tried someone's fin once and HOLY TOLEDO what a difference! It's liek a totally different board. Makes sense when you think about what is in the water the most, especially on slalom-type gear.

Thats y i asked the ? so many factors can make a board feel totally great or crap.
even just a well tuned rig.

Mark _australia
WA, 23545 posts
5 Sep 2012 7:57PM
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Macroscien said...

I am excited about this RRD boards but can not find shop online and prices for two hours already.
Preferable QLD but possibly shipping from other states could be considered ( unless is too risky for this fragile board
Where to buy XFIRE V4 ?


Second Wind in Attadale WA do RRD
www.2ndwind.com.au

But they don't list RRD under new boards on the website for some reason. They are thw WA distributor so would have new ones coming
Shows they have a 2010 X-Fire 122L secondhand for $800, would be a good buy

The XFire is fkn fast and has been ever since first release - good choice. Plus RRD quality.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
5 Sep 2012 10:08PM
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I'd recommend you give it another run before you loose any sleep over it. Sometimes the grass looks greener (or faster in this case) onthe other side, or sometime you can just havea really good run when everything comes together. If its still great the second time around then you can think about selling one of your kids, or a kidney or something.

The last time I demoed a slalom board I did a PB on it. Yes I did buy it but haven't managed to beat that PB, still love the board though.

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
5 Sep 2012 11:59PM
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I agree with the original poster. It gets too tempting to try other people's gear.

This is esp. true of rigs. I'm happy with me boards, but whenever I borrow a nice brand new rig, it seems ever lighter or funner.

'console myself with the fact that the same friends change gear about every year.
Current trend is that I'll be buying their s**t real cheap within a year or so...

I'm becoming part of the big Tupperware party...

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
6 Sep 2012 7:59AM
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kept my rig but the fin probably made a huge difference too, I was running a select 36 and he had a Gasoil (the big thing here) 34.

I'll wait til he buys the new one and sells his, then I won't ever try his new board again

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
6 Sep 2012 8:32AM
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isn't a 5.6 a bit of a small sail for a 100L+ slalom board? just curious cause I don't think many people here at least go for that kind of big board/small rig combo with slalom gear.

AUS4
NSW, 1291 posts
6 Sep 2012 10:02AM
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Its all about width not volume.

stehsegler
WA, 3560 posts
6 Sep 2012 8:53AM
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pierrec45 said...
'console myself with the fact that the same friends change gear about every year.
Current trend is that I'll be buying their s**t real cheap within a year or so...


Actually I found you can buy last years gear real cheap right now. Just have a look in the shops and on the buy and sell section of this site.

At the moment I would say if you buy a 2013 board brand new at full retail and sell it in September next year expect to loose 50 to 60% in value. I guess that's the price of always having the latest gear.

On the other hand assuming your board isn't a dud to begin with you should be able get more the longer you have it.

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
6 Sep 2012 12:00PM
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AUS4 said...

Its all about width not volume.


that really doesn't answer the question....

most slalom boards that volume, are usually about 65-70 wide... most of the slalom guys here seem to use 7.0->8.6 on that sized board, recommended sail sizes for the x-fire is 6.0/7.5, firerace is 7.0/9.0. Most slalom/speed dudes seem to be on something 60 wide or narrower if they have anything smaller than a 7.0 rigged.



seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
6 Sep 2012 4:24PM
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Volume/sail in my case depends on conditions.

That day the wind "seemed" strong but not so, plus in easterlies you need to get to the middle of the bay to catch the wind so in those conditions, rather than playing sinker, I usually choose a "floatier" board.

Our local god (A²) recommends volume before m²....

Back to topic, talked to the dealer (NC8), I can get get a brand new V3 for 1000$, who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
6 Sep 2012 2:58PM
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seanhogan said...

who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???


I think you have to pay too get rid of them

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
6 Sep 2012 5:08PM
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Aussiex
QLD, 261 posts
6 Sep 2012 5:57PM
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doggie said...

seanhogan said...

who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???


I think you have to pay too get rid of them


Not Nice

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
6 Sep 2012 6:15PM
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seanhogan said...

Back to topic, talked to the dealer (NC8), I can get get a brand new V3 for 1000$, who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???


Tha's a bargain, I might demo one when I'm over at Xmas!

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
6 Sep 2012 4:25PM
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Aussiex said...

doggie said...

seanhogan said...

who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???


I think you have to pay too get rid of them


Not Nice


It was a joke clown

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
6 Sep 2012 8:10PM
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Waiting4wind said...

seanhogan said...

Back to topic, talked to the dealer (NC8), I can get get a brand new V3 for 1000$, who wants to buy a male teenager (I'll throw in a Firerace) ???


Tha's a bargain, I might demo one when I'm over at Xmas!


I can arrange that, but not sure if he'll have some left !! He's receiving the V4 next month...



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