Any tips for jumping? Things to do or not to do?

Straps tight, like your WS setup anyways.
Very powered up.
Bear off just a little at first.
Quick weightshift forward, then back keeping centered balance for landing.
Land slightly off the wind.
Unfortunately, I come off foil on landings.
Hopefully, you guys can stay up on foil on your landings.

Single backstrap helps minimise the lever and thus damage, make sure your foil has jumping covered in warranty, most brand foils wont survive more than a few jumps, especially if you like me exceed 90kg/200pounds. Landing more on your back and waterstarting is better for your gear, landing flat on a wing pretty much guarantees to break it or your fuselage or bend your mast if its alu.

In terms of kit, go as small as you can on the wings, speed is your friend, not lift, also small wings have less lever on the fuselage so are less likely to break. I run my straps and mastbase all the way back, front screw in front, back screw behind the foil mast for single backstrap, and mastrack on 80cm from the front tuttle screw for maximum pop. I know Balz M?ller runs similar settings for his mastfoot, his backstrap is further forward, but his frontstrap is further back and his front wing is slightly further forward than mine. The end result should be that the back strap is not really comfortable to sail in, unless you want to leave the water entirely ;).

Then, for the jump itself: go downwind, heaps of speed is your friend, I mostly enter jumps at 45-50 kph. And, as LeeD says, for the pop, go down and then up, fast, its the sudden shift which makes the dream work. Also, make sure you're powered up!! When doing those things right I often go as high as my board 3-4m above the water (easy mast high when going for the backloop), and that is on totally flat water.

Tried to upload a picture but its tilting it 90 degrees for some reason....

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I'm a wuss. Highest foil jump maybe 4' high at backfoot, then dug the foil mast after slapping hard in the wing, causing a virtual stall, butt slapping.
At least I don't need a windswell to pop.

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WhiteofHeart said..
Then, for the jump itself: go downwind, heaps of speed is your friend, I mostly enter jumps at 45-50 kph.

Hmm... My fastest speed ever on foil is 37kph.

I think mph.

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lwalker said..

WhiteofHeart said..
Then, for the jump itself: go downwind, heaps of speed is your friend, I mostly enter jumps at 45-50 kph.

Hmm... My fastest speed ever on foil is 37kph.

Thats very possible, most people around here dont go much over 40 kph if at all. But the fact remains, slow speed = low jump ;). @LeeD 37mph would be near 60kph, that is very fast. My record is 58kph for foil, current world record is around 65 I believe.

The only time I get air is when I breach by accident. LOL Most of the time it ends badly. However, with a really big wing (like the i76) I can recover without a crash. If I am paying attention and prepared for it, that is.

60 kph is extremely fast for most amateur windsurfers on slalom gear.
Crash at that speed, you triple roll before you finally penetrate the water.
My foiling speeds are closer to 15 mph, maybe 23 kph?

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LeeD said..
60 kph is extremely fast for most amateur windsurfers on slalom gear.
Crash at that speed, you triple roll before you finally penetrate the water.
My foiling speeds are closer to 15 mph, maybe 23 kph?

Yes indeed, my record on slalomkit is 56kph. 23kph on the other hand sounds rather slow to me, but depending in your wing its all in the realm of realistic I think ;). My foil falls out of the sky if I go below 20kph.

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WhiteofHeart said..

LeeD said..
60 kph is extremely fast for most amateur windsurfers on slalom gear.
Crash at that speed, you triple roll before you finally penetrate the water.
My foiling speeds are closer to 15 mph, maybe 23 kph?

Yes indeed, my record on slalomkit is 56kph. 23kph on the other hand sounds rather slow to me, but depending in your wing its all in the realm of realistic I think ;). My foil falls out of the sky if I go below 20kph.

With all the high wind foiling and jumping that you do, have you broken much gear? (My biggest fear is losing the foil.)

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Faff said..

WhiteofHeart said..

LeeD said..
60 kph is extremely fast for most amateur windsurfers on slalom gear.
Crash at that speed, you triple roll before you finally penetrate the water.
My foiling speeds are closer to 15 mph, maybe 23 kph?

Yes indeed, my record on slalomkit is 56kph. 23kph on the other hand sounds rather slow to me, but depending in your wing its all in the realm of realistic I think ;). My foil falls out of the sky if I go below 20kph.

With all the high wind foiling and jumping that you do, have you broken much gear? (My biggest fear is losing the foil.)

Too much to count... In total I think about 8-10 wings, 5-7 alu masts, 4-5 fuselages, 3 stabs and 3 carbon monobloc mastfuselages from a few different brands. Most of it were F-One prototype pieces though, and that resulted in F-One now delivering product which can withstand my abuse (at least for a year now).

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WhiteofHeart said..

Faff said..

WhiteofHeart said..

LeeD said..
60 kph is extremely fast for most amateur windsurfers on slalom gear.
Crash at that speed, you triple roll before you finally penetrate the water.
My foiling speeds are closer to 15 mph, maybe 23 kph?

Yes indeed, my record on slalomkit is 56kph. 23kph on the other hand sounds rather slow to me, but depending in your wing its all in the realm of realistic I think ;). My foil falls out of the sky if I go below 20kph.

With all the high wind foiling and jumping that you do, have you broken much gear? (My biggest fear is losing the foil.)

Too much to count... In total I think about 8-10 wings, 5-7 alu masts, 4-5 fuselages, 3 stabs and 3 carbon monobloc mastfuselages from a few different brands. Most of it were F-One prototype pieces though, and that resulted in F-One now delivering product which can withstand my abuse (at least for a year now).

I see what you did there. No boards? Every time I breached the swell and landed on my foil (Moses 91), sending shudders through my board, my main concern was the tail snapping off my ancient Hypersonic 111 and my foil sinking to the bottom. Never thought much about the foil itself.

For freekooking (freeride, freestyle, freewave, etc. with smallest sail possible) in 10-20 knots in swell and chop, what do you think is the strongest combo? Carbon everything, but the fuselage? Deep tuttle?

Has anyone ever survived air on race gear? I'm worried about breaching my 1000mm foil. Sounds like leaning back and pushing legs away would help the foil survive... but the problem is most often I'm trying to prevent the breach so leaning forward, leading to a catapult and nose crash. Photo 2 not 1!

I'm lucky.
Way too old to be jumping, too broke to replace parts.
Still jump 20+ times a day windsurfing, 3 days a week.
Just ordered a 600 front wing to pair with my 1220.

They're jumping with the new slalomwings but those are 350cm2 or so, so when that hits the water nothing really happens! I'm personally not gonna jump a 3800E foil, just to be sure.