Foil gybing seems almost impossible to newbies - following the steps in the video will have you flying through the turn before you get to a dozen sessions
Having the right kit helps too

I really think the video helps out a lot for new foilers, allthough I have to add the technique he proposes works with sails upto 6m when being reasonably powered. Not in light winds or with bigger sails.

I feel I carve harder through my turns, but other than that I think my technique is very similar to what he describes when powered up on 4.6 or smaller.

flipping the sail first and feet second is a brilliant tip I also give to my trainees. The second thing I'd mention, which he doesn't, is to open the sail early! Earlier than early even! That way your sail will never backwind, and powered up enough you'll have speed to spare to carve the turn.

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WhiteofHeart said..
The second thing I'd mention, which he doesn't, is to open the sail early! Earlier than early even! That way your sail will never backwind, and powered up enough you'll have speed to spare to carve the turn.

What do you mean by open the sail? Do you mean flip it early or something else?

I wish I had seen that in the middle of summer! Check out this track of the only gybe I made all season without stalling completely, only 18 metres across, I need to take his advice and "sloooowwww everything down".

(oh and that little squiggle on the sandbank was very painful)

Imperceptible foot changes. www.facebook.com/zeeko.watersport/videos/373116826885503/

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WhiteofHeart said..
The second thing I'd mention, which he doesn't, is to open the sail early! Earlier than early even! That way your sail will never backwind, and powered up enough you'll have speed to spare to carve the turn.

What do you mean by open the sail? Do you mean flip it early or something else?

In normal windsurfing the tendency is to close the sail entering the jibe, in windfoiling (in the beginning) its way easier to open it entering the jibe. open early ;)

I cannot foil jibe.
In those English foiling vid lessons, they stress sheeting IN and shoving the boom forward at the start of the jibe.

I cannot foil jibe.
In those English foiling vid lessons, they stress sheeting IN and shoving the boom forward at the start of the jibe.

Perhaps there are more than one way to do many things?

LeeD I also have picked up on the different advice from professionals.
Sam Ross talks about opening the sail up early while Tony Logosz suggests over sheeting early. Both techniques look smooth in their videos. I think the differences are mostly to do with the size of sails they are using. Sam is using large sails while Tony is predominantly sailing with small wave sails. There is much less chance of a small wave sail getting back winded as it can be spun so much faster.
As Whiteofheart pointed out I think opening up early is safest when learning.

2Keen is spot on I think!

Lately I'm sheeting in more and more, even going for laydown-ish jibes on the foil, because it thightens the arc, allows to keep more speed during the turn, and makes the rig flip faster due to more momentum. However, this makes the timing much more critical.

i think most people are not sailing in the bottom-end of the range like I am (and philipe from horue, who also closes the sail), where keeping the speed is most important. "Bottom-end" to me is 4-5m2 less than similar weights use in slalom in light winds, with the use of +/-900-1000 wings (so not the complete floaty airplanes like the infinity, there i think you should be able to substract another meter sail easy). If you don't sail as small / underpowered, its way easier to just lengthen your arc, open your sail, and let the momentum of the board do the work during the jibe instead of your sail.

also, thightening your sail transfers weight to the mastfoot, for me it took some training to get the hang of it. Opening your sail at the entry means power will be distributed only over your legs, which is a parameter less to worry about.

Could it depend a bit also if you can jibe a regular windsurf board with oversheeting or do you jibe by opening your sail in the start?

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LeeD said..
Could it depend a bit also if you can jibe a regular windsurf board with oversheeting or do you jibe by opening your sail in the start?

On the regular windsurf I'm mostly a slalom sailor, going for the laydown about 90% of the time. (Though I can pull of duckjibes with my freestyle and even slalom <7.8)

Which could be why you're starting to sheet in and forward as you bear off.
I've been jibing like that for 30+ years, and going back to a sheeting out jibe doesn't make sense at all.
Every good foil jiber I see sheets in hard, extends the sail forward, and partially lays the sail to leeward.
To me, who has tried two foiling jibes this year, opening the sail invites foiling out when downwind and the flip takes longer.