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Created by Phil27 Phil27  > 9 months ago, 7 Jul 2019
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Phil27
Phil27

WA

194 posts

7 Jul 2019 3:07pm
Anybody know of a key safe that blocks signal from the key? On my car, if the key is close enough to the door it'll open when locked.
If I stash my key in a simple magnetic box, my car is basically open to being accessed - easily.
An aqua pack is an option, would rather leave my key with my car though, in a box/lock that blocks the signal.
Ive read the faraday cage blocks this, anyone bought a lock/box that they use while in the water?
Cheers
Buster fin
Buster fin

WA

2597 posts

7 Jul 2019 4:31pm
Have you tried wrapping it in foil, then stashing it? A kind of faraday cage.
Phil27
Phil27

WA

194 posts

7 Jul 2019 5:24pm
I read that somewhere, no I haven't.
I can try that as a temporary fix, but if the current stash box is found it's not locked and the car is gone - Ideally I'm after a keysafe lockable box which blocks the signal.
Plus, what if I forget my tinfoil!!
Rango
Rango

WA

831 posts

7 Jul 2019 6:21pm
Tech sux buy an old car.
Or could you take the battery out and lock it with an old school key
Boothie88
Boothie88

161 posts

7 Jul 2019 10:20pm
My wifes car does the same, however the key has a release from the electronic bit and i found if you physically lock it from outside it wont open unless unlocked with the actual manual key.

i just attached that to my wetsuit and went for my surf, car was still there when i got back. Great success.
riverider
riverider

TAS

1112 posts

8 Jul 2019 10:11am
I bought my key safe through shapers and it came with a ziplock foil bag, but I don't have a smart key so can't tell you if it works or not.




jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

8 Jul 2019 9:10am
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Phil27 said..
Anybody know of a key safe that blocks signal from the key? On my car, if the key is close enough to the door it'll open when locked.
If I stash my key in a simple magnetic box, my car is basically open to being accessed - easily.
An aqua pack is an option, would rather leave my key with my car though, in a box/lock that blocks the signal.
Ive read the faraday cage blocks this, anyone bought a lock/box that they use while in the water?
Cheers


WHat car do you drive. My Prado also has a small piece that slips out and i can manually lock car. I just leave it on my wetsuit all the time.

Also be careful, i used a Keysafe lock box but after getting out late one night, no one around and no lights found it impossible to read the code to open.

Lastly worth checking with you insurance company as to what constitutes theft. If they break in and get my keys, (IE i have locked manually) than my car is covered.
Phil27
Phil27

WA

194 posts

8 Jul 2019 8:00pm
Just checked out the Shapers one, a little light duty but better than what I'm using!
My car is keyless, so it doesn't have a manual lock (keyhole, whatever).
I'm gonna keep searching for a magnetic back key safe, so it's not on show and maybe try the foil thing.
Thanks for the tips.
Older cars were sooo much easier!
JulianRoss
JulianRoss

WA

544 posts

9 Jul 2019 7:45am
I have a keyless entry and a surflock. was testing last night. If I stand next to the door with the fob in the keylock, I can open the door, but if the keylock is attached to the wheel rim, which is where I attach it when in the water , then the door remains secure. Maybe just check for a safe spot on your car where the signal isn't strong enough?
Phil27
Phil27

WA

194 posts

10 Jul 2019 9:52am
Thanks Julian,
Ive tried that, putting it closer to the front doors activates them and putting it closer to the boot opens that! That's why I'm chasing a signal blocking one, it'll likely just do the same otherwise if doesn't block the signal somehow.
Surfer123
Surfer123

WA

36 posts

10 Jul 2019 12:58pm
I've found the front tow point being the best place to put the lock on a Prado. Everywhere else seems to be in signal range
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

10 Jul 2019 2:05pm
I always thought signal strength was also affected by battery condition in the fob..?
JulianRoss
JulianRoss

WA

544 posts

10 Jul 2019 2:20pm
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jbshack said..
I always thought signal strength was also affected by battery condition in the fob..?


Nope, my exhaustive testing was done when the car was delivered new...
mocha1
mocha1

WA

934 posts

10 Jul 2019 3:36pm
This page made me test mine!!
placing the lock box under the towball works...dual cab ute.


the other ??? For those locks is can anyone just access them by doing that thing you have to do when you buy the box and you set your own combo???
IFocus
IFocus

WA

585 posts

11 Jul 2019 8:13am
I have had the solution for some time..........a hail damaged 2009 Mazda I often forget leaving the keys on the roof......... my towel inside is probably worth more.

I never park next to Mick who has a full blown surf shop inside his which is worth pinching
damned67
damned67

580 posts

20 Jul 2019 5:01pm
I really don't want to sound like a smart arse, but have a read of the owners manual.
I bought a car with keyless entry 6 months ago. Salesman and service dept told me there was no way to disable the keyless entry.
Day I got the car, I was reading through the manual pretty much for fun.
Turns out that if you hit the lock button on the key, followed by the lock spot on the door handle, it disables the keyless entry in the locked mode. Can only unlock the car by pressing the unlock button on the key itself (then the keyless is back to active).
Works great - but I really should read up on the insurance implications.
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

21 Jul 2019 6:57am
6 cars in the last week stolen from the spit

The one common factor was that all cars had their keys in a surf lock

Cops are shaking their head at what we think is a good idea and said YouTube it and see why

So i did and this was one of many vids

damned67
damned67

580 posts

21 Jul 2019 2:40pm
And that's the exact keysafe I own....
looks like time for another solution
mocha1
mocha1

WA

934 posts

21 Jul 2019 7:56pm
Sooo Hide your keys in a Keysafe then hide the keysafe...EASY
Phil27
Phil27

WA

194 posts

22 Jul 2019 8:16am
This thread has opened up a can of worms!!
Still haven't found a solution but an Aquapac seems like the way to go, keep the key away from the car altogether - should be ok in winter with a wetsuit, just a little riskier in summer unless you have super reliable zips on your boardies.
SebScott
SebScott

12 posts

27 Jul 2019 7:27pm
can confirm the tin foil works along with the zip lock bag posted above.

make a lil tin foil pouch and keep it in your lock
rattlinbones
rattlinbones

WA

43 posts

28 Jul 2019 8:19am
I use the Masterlock heavy duty one from Bunnings - 5414.
Is this as easy to break into? Couldn't find a YouTube video for it.
brownie49
brownie49

NSW

100 posts

28 Jul 2019 5:18pm
I had the same situation but found by getting a "surf key" cut from the key inside the smart fob then manually locking the door with the "surf key" the fob was immobilised until the "surf key" was used to unlock the car

The "surf key" is then attached to me and its all good

The same as Boothie and JB have both said, works for me
KEARNSY
KEARNSY

WA

1322 posts

4 Aug 2019 8:48am
I will never forget the day I learned the hard way when I returned to my car and it was gone. There are some scumbags out there . Either use a keysafe or take a key with you.
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