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Are these guys serious?

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Created by DrD > 9 months ago, 22 Oct 2012
DrD
64 posts
22 Oct 2012 12:20AM
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I just saw this on the ninemsn website. Its footage of a guy diving, being brave and fending off a 2mtr bronzy.
The bit that has really annoyed me is at the start you can clearly see that there is either burly or fish in the water exciting it.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/10/21/14/52/diver-fends-off-shark-with-camera

There was some similar footage of Dunsborough a few months ago of a whitey eyeing off a dingy, then you see the bait they are using to attract it.

Can these idiots not put 2 and 2 together and realise that there is a large chance that attracting sharks to boats in this way is simply creating a pavlov's dog situation, shark see's boat, shark remembers food, shark goes to investigate.

But I guess some people are more interested in getting their 2 minutes of fame by posting their video on youtube or something similar.

These guys need a smack over the head to knock some sense into them.

DrD
64 posts
22 Oct 2012 12:32AM
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People get in trouble if they go out and feed dolphins, and there is rules about keeping set distances in a boat from whales, but sharks...well go right ahead and feed the buggers, that will stop them attacking.

JBFletch
QLD, 1287 posts
22 Oct 2012 9:38AM
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gett the funk out of the water son...

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
22 Oct 2012 10:41AM
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Yeah i totally agree DRD. Its my big beef and it is simply wrong[}:)]

they bait it in than sell the story saying the sharks bothering the boat, the media runs with it and then we all get hysterical about the sharks attacking boats

Last nights news headlines for 7 said and the shark that just refuses to leave our coastline. Then in the actual story they said nothing other than a tagged shark set of a beacon at Mulla Nothing about it staying in the area, nothing about its the same shark that's been hanging around.

In fact i have provided a question on Tagged sharks and tagging numbers to the Labour and Greens party and the greens have said they will try and put it before parliament before the close of this years session. Lets hope because i really want my answer that no one wants to give me.

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
22 Oct 2012 10:45AM
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Yep, and these same meat headed fisherman that are attracting them to the boats are some of the same guys that claim the experts don't know what they're talking about.

Ofcourse, you're going to see more sharks if you attract them to your boat on purpose.

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
22 Oct 2012 6:41PM
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i have to admit i am not a fan of the shark tours running in some of the southern states i don't think we need the apex ocean predator to be associating a free feed with the prescence of humans ....i had a dive with a mate in French polynesia where it was supposed to be illegal to feed the local reef sharks ..the local dive shop guy was of course doing this to impress the tourists ..so when we pulled up at the buoy in a private boat ...bingo 10 -20 small reefies appeared from nowhere and started doing circuits around the boat, and us ,the whole time we were in the water.
bit disconcerting even when they are that small !(and i am a bit of a sheila's blouse )

moohan
WA, 147 posts
22 Oct 2012 11:56PM
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Fending off sharks is the norm when spearfishing up there, noahs will cruise in everytime they hear the spear go off, whether you hit a fish or not. yep, they associate humans (and spearfishing) with a free feed, but attacks are rare. This one obviously thought that it would test the camera. I don't see any issue with the news site running it, it's interesting footage, but I don't think the diver was in any danger either. Shark would be a Dusky or Spinner, Bronzies are a southern shark species.

DrD
64 posts
23 Oct 2012 12:58AM
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moohan said...
Fending off sharks is the norm when spearfishing up there, noahs will cruise in everytime they hear the spear go off, whether you hit a fish or not. yep, they associate humans (and spearfishing) with a free feed, but attacks are rare. This one obviously thought that it would test the camera. I don't see any issue with the news site running it, it's interesting footage, but I don't think the diver was in any danger either. Shark would be a Dusky or Spinner, Bronzies are a southern shark species.



Its not really my point about whether he was in any danger, it seems pretty clear that they have attracted the shark in so he could get some footage of it, the shark nudging up to him was an extra bonus.

I just think this sort of behavior is short sighted and selfish. It is encouraging human/shark interaction, where it may not have naturally occoured.
In this case, it is a reasonably small shark, but the clowns in the Dunsborough footage from a few months ago have a pretty solid white pointer circling their boat. With the way things have been over there over the last year, I think any action like this should be strongly discouraged, not posted on a national website.

I'm not having a go at you moohan, just trying to explain my point


DrD
64 posts
23 Oct 2012 1:00AM
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jbshack said...
Yeah i totally agree DRD. Its my big beef and it is simply wrong[}:)]

they bait it in than sell the story saying the sharks bothering the boat, the media runs with it and then we all get hysterical about the sharks attacking boats

Last nights news headlines for 7 said and the shark that just refuses to leave our coastline. Then in the actual story they said nothing other than a tagged shark set of a beacon at Mulla Nothing about it staying in the area, nothing about its the same shark that's been hanging around.

In fact i have provided a question on Tagged sharks and tagging numbers to the Labour and Greens party and the greens have said they will try and put it before parliament before the close of this years session. Lets hope because i really want my answer that no one wants to give me.



Good luck with that JB, I hope they get it out there

moohan
WA, 147 posts
23 Oct 2012 1:58PM
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DrD said...
moohan said...
Fending off sharks is the norm when spearfishing up there, noahs will cruise in everytime they hear the spear go off, whether you hit a fish or not. yep, they associate humans (and spearfishing) with a free feed, but attacks are rare. This one obviously thought that it would test the camera. I don't see any issue with the news site running it, it's interesting footage, but I don't think the diver was in any danger either. Shark would be a Dusky or Spinner, Bronzies are a southern shark species.



Its not really my point about whether he was in any danger, it seems pretty clear that they have attracted the shark in so he could get some footage of it, the shark nudging up to him was an extra bonus.

I just think this sort of behavior is short sighted and selfish. It is encouraging human/shark interaction, where it may not have naturally occoured.
In this case, it is a reasonably small shark, but the clowns in the Dunsborough footage from a few months ago have a pretty solid white pointer circling their boat. With the way things have been over there over the last year, I think any action like this should be strongly discouraged, not posted on a national website.

I'm not having a go at you moohan, just trying to explain my point






I agree with you about people hanging snapper frames off the back of the boat then complaining that the White had a go at their prop. Most of the footage you see lately of whites circling boats has a sneaky snapper frame tied off to a rope. Same goes for the numptys that complain about having 15 snapper taken by a shark without moving on. You end up with 15 dead snapper, no fish in the esky and a shark that is going to associate boats and fishing with an easy feed.
My point with that video is that burleying is common practice when trying to find fish up north (or anywhere for that matter), and small sharks turning up isn't uncommon, to the point most spearos are quite adept at fighting off the sharks to save their catch. I don't think the spearos in that clip were deliberately trying to burley up a shark, probably just filming there spearing exploits when a shark turned up and showed a bit more interest than usual.

moohan
WA, 147 posts
23 Oct 2012 2:00PM
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And all good, I didn't take it as you having a go

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
23 Oct 2012 2:42PM
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Free breathing speeros will go out of Rotto, shoot a smaller/**** fish, and gut in then and there in the water to attract better fish like Maccies

I have thought long and hard and still cant 100% decide if it takes a huge lack of brain cells or the biggest cahoners going around



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