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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved

Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty

Where did you get this collector thing from

As a young fella I would collect paddle pop sticks and make things, I made a set of twin fins once. Unfortunately things got out of hand collecting anything.

Hang with me and ill make you a surfer

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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved

Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty

Where did you get this collector thing from

As a young fella I would collect paddle pop sticks and make things, I made a set of twin fins once. Unfortunately things got out of hand collecting anything.

Hang with me and ill make you a surfer

This offer is good for one week

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chrispy said..

Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.

Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead

Yeah would think the same.

Mostly for explanation of the fin types used, not really your normal quad sizes hey.

But for the purists it's a quad, just a different type of quad setup.

So Chrispy what if I now change things up for tomorrows surf and put the micro bites at the front and the twins at the back?

Is that a Quad, Twinzer, or a Bonzer?

And what if I then put in a stabilizer? Is that a twin with micros and a stabiliser? Or a Quad with a stabilizer? Or a Twinzer or a Bonzer with a stabiliser?

Aren't Twins with stabilisers tri's?

I wouldn't want to get it wrong just in case you need to keep hitting your head

Maybe you could help out and give us all a clear definition of all the different fin arrangements and their terminologies?

P.S just messin with ya.

Nothing you do will turn it into a bonzer. Bonzer is the the sum of its parts not just a fin set up.

What are the fin measurement like on the CJet, they seem pretty far forward and near the rails for a twin?

Good morning fin fans.

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Macaha said..
Good morning fin fans.

Morning

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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..
Good morning fin fans.

Morning

Is that a form of pop out art

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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..

Macaha said..
Good morning fin fans.

Morning

Is that a form of pop out art

I dont know. It just caught my eye on fb

I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

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Cuttlefish said..
I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Now we are talking, solid positive post nice one Cuttlefish

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Macaha said..

Cuttlefish said..
I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Now we are talking, solid positive post nice one Cuttlefish

Unlike your work in here so far

I will try to do better from now on.

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SP said..

Hydromann said..

chrispy said..

Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.

Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead

Yeah would think the same.

Mostly for explanation of the fin types used, not really your normal quad sizes hey.

But for the purists it's a quad, just a different type of quad setup.

So Chrispy what if I now change things up for tomorrows surf and put the micro bites at the front and the twins at the back?

Is that a Quad, Twinzer, or a Bonzer?

And what if I then put in a stabilizer? Is that a twin with micros and a stabiliser? Or a Quad with a stabilizer? Or a Twinzer or a Bonzer with a stabiliser?

Aren't Twins with stabilisers tri's?

I wouldn't want to get it wrong just in case you need to keep hitting your head

Maybe you could help out and give us all a clear definition of all the different fin arrangements and their terminologies?

P.S just messin with ya.

Nothing you do will turn it into a bonzer. Bonzer is the the sum of its parts not just a fin set up.

What are the fin measurement like on the CJet, they seem pretty far forward and near the rails for a twin?

Thanks SP, already knew that, just trying to be as pedantic as chrispy

Don't have the dimensions but they are the same as the Wombat MKII and align with a number of other similar designs.

MOE is roughly the same locations where as the fitz Cosmic Twin is lower and narrower. To mount my twins in a similar position I would simply need to install a couple of new plus to fit the purple outline.


Had a rippa surf yesterday in 1 + 1/2 times head height faces running the Quad set up, twins at the front and the micro bites rear.

Started todays session with the same but the wave height had dropped down to chest / head height, the quads seemed too stiff for the size so I pulled them out, shoved them in my pocket, and ran with the twins.

I really do like it with the twins best, especially in the wave type here which is a peaky beach break that peels away fast. Any other setup and I've got to drop for a full bottom turn and by then the face has run away with the party. The twins allow me to instantly swing the tail around to engage the rail on take off and blast across the face.

I was making sections that thrusters, mals, singles and others could not, so I was able to sit inside a bit deeper and further out to pick off the best rides.

With the board volume and length I can also pick the swell up very quickly, even compared to a couple of guys on 6'8" MacT mids.

One of them was blown away at the paddle power in the Cjet, we where both hitting the same wave with me inside and out back. He came in thinking that I was not going to pick it up and had to pull back hard as I zipped in under him. I was a good 20' further out than him as well.

If there was a couple of things I could change on it now that I've gotten to know her better I would change the rail profile from the nose back to about 40%. Slightly thinner, starting with a beveled edge at the front and transitioning to the current shape in the middle. And maybe take out 4 to 5 L of foam to suit my weight better and make duck diving a little more productive. Damn I'd forgotten just how taxing it is to sink 50L wave after wave when caught inside. I would rather contend with a 500m point paddle.

Mid rail to tail I would thin out a little as well to make it a bit easier to lay her over. Still that's mostly me not getting forceful enough with her.

Lastly I would also like to have a swallow tail, not because it needs it for any other fin setup other than a twin, but because I run the twin I think it would give some added bite. Will experiment with a single stabiliser next to see if that feels good, if not out comes the hack saw.

And lastly I'd like some futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs so that I can run the same fins as Cuttlefish, super jealous of his ride.

And sorry Mac I'm singing the praises of the pop out again. Is it the perfect board? No.

But for the price paid it's helping me define exactly what I think will work for me when I can afford a custom. I even seem to have earned some respect from the branded crew, in the last couple of days they have seen what I can do on a pop out and it's got them curious enough to pull me up and have a look at the Cjet. And yes they can see things that could be improved as well to suit them if they rode it.

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I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Jealous much.

When I grow up I wanna be like Cuttlefish and have big fins.

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Hydromann said..
I wonder how hard it would be to fit a couple of futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs?

Gets done a fair bit. Not hard at all, but then you have to start collecting a new fin library. FCSII might be a better bet as FCS still fit them.

Thanks Drip,

But the fins I really want are Futures tab only. Unless someone know of a cheap set of FCS1 twin tab fins that are 169mm tall?

Heck they can even be triple tab, I'll install another plug.

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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

Cuttlefish said..
I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Now we are talking, solid positive post nice one Cuttlefish

Unlike your work in here so far

Haters are always going to hate, so to you and them I say eat **** bitches.

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Hydromann said..

SP said..

Hydromann said..

chrispy said..

Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.

Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead

Yeah would think the same.

Mostly for explanation of the fin types used, not really your normal quad sizes hey.

But for the purists it's a quad, just a different type of quad setup.

So Chrispy what if I now change things up for tomorrows surf and put the micro bites at the front and the twins at the back?

Is that a Quad, Twinzer, or a Bonzer?

And what if I then put in a stabilizer? Is that a twin with micros and a stabiliser? Or a Quad with a stabilizer? Or a Twinzer or a Bonzer with a stabiliser?

Aren't Twins with stabilisers tri's?

I wouldn't want to get it wrong just in case you need to keep hitting your head

Maybe you could help out and give us all a clear definition of all the different fin arrangements and their terminologies?

P.S just messin with ya.

Nothing you do will turn it into a bonzer. Bonzer is the the sum of its parts not just a fin set up.

What are the fin measurement like on the CJet, they seem pretty far forward and near the rails for a twin?

Thanks SP, already knew that, just trying to be as pedantic as chrispy

Don't have the dimensions but they are the same as the Wombat MKII and align with a number of other similar designs.

MOE is roughly the same locations where as the fitz Cosmic Twin is lower and narrower. To mount my twins in a similar position I would simply need to install a couple of new plus to fit the purple outline.


Had a rippa surf yesterday in 1 + 1/2 times head height faces running the Quad set up, twins at the front and the micro bites rear.

Started todays session with the same but the wave height had dropped down to chest / head height, the quads seemed too stiff for the size so I pulled them out, shoved them in my pocket, and ran with the twins.

I really do like it with the twins best, especially in the wave type here which is a peaky beach break that peels away fast. Any other setup and I've got to drop for a full bottom turn and by then the face has run away with the party. The twins allow me to instantly swing the tail around to engage the rail on take off and blast across the face.

I was making sections that thrusters, mals, singles and others could not, so I was able to sit inside a bit deeper and further out to pick off the best rides.

With the board volume and length I can also pick the swell up very quickly, even compared to a couple of guys on 6'8" MacT mids.

One of them was blown away at the paddle power in the Cjet, we where both hitting the same wave with me inside and out back. He came in thinking that I was not going to pick it up and had to pull back hard as I zipped in under him. I was a good 20' further out than him as well.

If there was a couple of things I could change on it now that I've gotten to know her better I would change the rail profile from the nose back to about 40%. Slightly thinner, starting with a beveled edge at the front and transitioning to the current shape in the middle. And maybe take out 4 to 5 L of foam to suit my weight better and make duck diving a little more productive. Damn I'd forgotten just how taxing it is to sink 50L wave after wave when caught inside. I would rather contend with a 500m point paddle.

Mid rail to tail I would thin out a little as well to make it a bit easier to lay her over. Still that's mostly me not getting forceful enough with her.

Lastly I would also like to have a swallow tail, not because it needs it for any other fin setup other than a twin, but because I run the twin I think it would give some added bite. Will experiment with a single stabiliser next to see if that feels good, if not out comes the hack saw.

And lastly I'd like some futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs so that I can run the same fins as Cuttlefish, super jealous of his ride.

And sorry Mac I'm singing the praises of the pop out again. Is it the perfect board? No.

But for the price paid it's helping me define exactly what I think will work for me when I can afford a custom. I even seem to have earned some respect from the branded crew, in the last couple of days they have seen what I can do on a pop out and it's got them curious enough to pull me up and have a look at the Cjet. And yes they can see things that could be improved as well to suit them if they rode it.

Carry on I like positivity, I read you had a epic surf so I'm happy for you.Dont let Lacey try to bring you down.

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Macaha said..

Hydromann said..

SP said..

Hydromann said..

chrispy said..

Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.

Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead

Yeah would think the same.

Mostly for explanation of the fin types used, not really your normal quad sizes hey.

But for the purists it's a quad, just a different type of quad setup.

So Chrispy what if I now change things up for tomorrows surf and put the micro bites at the front and the twins at the back?

Is that a Quad, Twinzer, or a Bonzer?

And what if I then put in a stabilizer? Is that a twin with micros and a stabiliser? Or a Quad with a stabilizer? Or a Twinzer or a Bonzer with a stabiliser?

Aren't Twins with stabilisers tri's?

I wouldn't want to get it wrong just in case you need to keep hitting your head

Maybe you could help out and give us all a clear definition of all the different fin arrangements and their terminologies?

P.S just messin with ya.

Nothing you do will turn it into a bonzer. Bonzer is the the sum of its parts not just a fin set up.

What are the fin measurement like on the CJet, they seem pretty far forward and near the rails for a twin?

Thanks SP, already knew that, just trying to be as pedantic as chrispy

Don't have the dimensions but they are the same as the Wombat MKII and align with a number of other similar designs.

MOE is roughly the same locations where as the fitz Cosmic Twin is lower and narrower. To mount my twins in a similar position I would simply need to install a couple of new plus to fit the purple outline.


Had a rippa surf yesterday in 1 + 1/2 times head height faces running the Quad set up, twins at the front and the micro bites rear.

Started todays session with the same but the wave height had dropped down to chest / head height, the quads seemed too stiff for the size so I pulled them out, shoved them in my pocket, and ran with the twins.

I really do like it with the twins best, especially in the wave type here which is a peaky beach break that peels away fast. Any other setup and I've got to drop for a full bottom turn and by then the face has run away with the party. The twins allow me to instantly swing the tail around to engage the rail on take off and blast across the face.

I was making sections that thrusters, mals, singles and others could not, so I was able to sit inside a bit deeper and further out to pick off the best rides.

With the board volume and length I can also pick the swell up very quickly, even compared to a couple of guys on 6'8" MacT mids.

One of them was blown away at the paddle power in the Cjet, we where both hitting the same wave with me inside and out back. He came in thinking that I was not going to pick it up and had to pull back hard as I zipped in under him. I was a good 20' further out than him as well.

If there was a couple of things I could change on it now that I've gotten to know her better I would change the rail profile from the nose back to about 40%. Slightly thinner, starting with a beveled edge at the front and transitioning to the current shape in the middle. And maybe take out 4 to 5 L of foam to suit my weight better and make duck diving a little more productive. Damn I'd forgotten just how taxing it is to sink 50L wave after wave when caught inside. I would rather contend with a 500m point paddle.

Mid rail to tail I would thin out a little as well to make it a bit easier to lay her over. Still that's mostly me not getting forceful enough with her.

Lastly I would also like to have a swallow tail, not because it needs it for any other fin setup other than a twin, but because I run the twin I think it would give some added bite. Will experiment with a single stabiliser next to see if that feels good, if not out comes the hack saw.

And lastly I'd like some futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs so that I can run the same fins as Cuttlefish, super jealous of his ride.

And sorry Mac I'm singing the praises of the pop out again. Is it the perfect board? No.

But for the price paid it's helping me define exactly what I think will work for me when I can afford a custom. I even seem to have earned some respect from the branded crew, in the last couple of days they have seen what I can do on a pop out and it's got them curious enough to pull me up and have a look at the Cjet. And yes they can see things that could be improved as well to suit them if they rode it.

Carry on I like positivity, I read you had a epic surf so I'm happy for you.Dont let Lacey try to bring you down.

Who's Lacey?

Yeah might just be the photo but The back end of the c jet looks completely different to the wombat. Much wider / straighter outline, thicker in the rails and a rounded squash tail rather than the diamond tail.
Wombat also doesn't have the channel.


Having said that I preferred a 2+1 on the wombat. Didn't like it as a quad.

Great looking board CF.

Bit more twin fin and trailer fun experimentation.


And yes my lawn is a disgrace. Mowed just days ago but missed the edges due to the whippersnipper being possessed by demons.

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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

Cuttlefish said..
I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Now we are talking, solid positive post nice one Cuttlefish

Unlike your work in here so far

Haters are always going to hate, so to you and them I say eat **** bitches.

2 and 1/2 week bali bender finally caught up

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Cuttlefish said..
Bit more twin fin and trailer fun experimentation.


And yes my lawn is a disgrace. Mowed just days ago but missed the edges due to the whippersnipper being possessed by demons.

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Cuttlefish said..
Bit more twin fin and trailer fun experimentation.


And yes my lawn is a disgrace. Mowed just days ago but missed the edges due to the whippersnipper being possessed by demons.

Yes edges need some work otherwise nice

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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

Cuttlefish said..
I must say the long flex twins that I have in the new 7'6" allows a most excellent cutback. Just lay it on a rail and yeeew!

Now we are talking, solid positive post nice one Cuttlefish

Unlike your work in here so far

Haters are always going to hate, so to you and them I say eat **** bitches.

2 and 1/2 week bali bender finally caught up

Don't worry the Mac is back your not going to like it

Who's mac?

Hydroman, if you re-shape those trailers into a template and size exactly like these: shapers.com.au/side-bite-dvs87/ it will be good.
Note the depth of the fin is 89mm and base is 87mm with the front edge of the fin starting a little way from the front tab.
You will find they will work well with the front Modii twins and give you enough hold in the tail but won't make the board too stiff.

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Cuttlefish said..
Hydroman, if you re-shape those trailers into a template and size exactly like these: shapers.com.au/side-bite-dvs87/ it will be good.
Note the depth of the fin is 89mm and base is 87mm with the front edge of the fin starting a little way from the front tab.
You will find they will work well with the front Modii twins and give you enough hold in the tail but won't make the board too stiff.

Cheers CF.

Yeah you were spot on. A little too much keel in them and not enough release.

Re profiling in progress, only thing with the plastics is seeing the profile clearly. Can't see layers like glass fins.

Also gonna try the MODII in the rear plugs next just for some fun.

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Yeah might just be the photo but The back end of the c jet looks completely different to the wombat. Much wider / straighter outline, thicker in the rails and a rounded squash tail rather than the diamond tail.
Wombat also doesn't have the channel.


Having said that I preferred a 2+1 on the wombat. Didn't like it as a quad.

Great looking board CF.

Yeah some little differences in there. I think the rails are similar but have never spied a wombat in the wild to check.

CF has the best combo of boards and fins. How he decides what to ride I'll never know. Maybe he secretly owns a mid length board shop and is just popping up images to make us all jealous?

It worked.

Hey what do people reckon about the Webber Diamond?

Any users or ride reports?

That was one of the two that I wanted but couldn't afford. Then bam as soon as I got the CJet two pop up for sale.

Still for sale and can get one local with the futures boxes so I can fit big boy fins ;-)

Be interested for some first hand feed back.

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Yeah might just be the photo but The back end of the c jet looks completely different to the wombat. Much wider / straighter outline, thicker in the rails and a rounded squash tail rather than the diamond tail.
Wombat also doesn't have the channel.


Having said that I preferred a 2+1 on the wombat. Didn't like it as a quad.

Great looking board CF.

Marginal difference in width.

Diamond vs square.

Fin placement almost identical, slightly wider on the Cjet with slightly more width.

Can't compare the rails, can only say that the Cjet rails seem to be well proportioned to the rest of the design.

Could maybe have done with a bit more vee in the mid section through to tail in place of the slight channels.

Left MOE Twin.
Next Fitz Twin.
Next Cjet.
Next Wombat II.

The exact differences in the Wombat and Cjet would only be known by Beau Young. I doubt very much that he would engineer or design in his specific performance aspects for a mass produced board targeted at either recreational or beginner surfers. He's still selling the Wombat and I'm sure that if I inquired on what performance advantages I could expect over the Cjet that he could list them easily.

Still for what I paid to get back out there and the fun I am having on the Cjet it is proving to be a very capable design. And like I have stated all along it's been an entry point to me defining exactly what I want when I do walk into a shapers bays.

I reckon I'm going to pop a couple of extra plugs into her and mess around with fin placement and combo's a bit more, really digging the twins but just want a little more bite in meatier waves. The back end drifting out on a hard bottom turn always feels sketchy to me, never really sure if she's just gonna let loose or bite and throw.

Shapers love it when people come into the factory and detail exactly what they want right down to rail shape and fin placement/ configuration instead of leaning on X amount years of experience , knowledge, experimentation and asking questions

Its always important to know what you don't know fills a far bigger bucket than what you do know

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Tux said..


Shapers love it when people come into the factory and detail exactly what they want right down to rail shape and fin placement/ configuration instead of leaning on X amount years of experience , knowledge, experimentation and asking questions

Its always important to know what you don't know fills a far bigger bucket than what you do know

Amen. I learnt that the hard way. These days it's "I like this about this board, hate this, want my next one to do this. Don't listen to anything I say about design."