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laceys lane
laceys lane

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16 Apr 2019 5:13pm
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climber said..


laceys lane said..



MichaelR said..
I'm gonna second Toobz' posts by saying, shorter boards aren't the answer, neither is not surfing.

From my own experience, it's just practicing correct posture everywhere... says he, sitting poke necked and slouched at his PC. I've done 10 years of Pilates, and whilst I don't go to classes any more, I've managed to stave off three surgeries that were suggested when I had various upper and lower back injuries.

Like a lot of us, if I'm lazy I'll paddle with my chest on the board and look up with a crooked neck. When I think carefully about it, or my neck starts to hurt, I remember to arch from between the shoulder blades, keeping the neck as straight as possible, and looking up just with the eyes. From a distance, it looks like I'm still looking at the board in front of me, but it works. As does bending the knees to help engage the diaphragm and core. This is what stretches the upper spine, taking pressure off the compressed discs.

I also visit a chiro/osteo every 4 weeks, who isn't a surfer, but knows the benefits of surfing. In his opinion, if you keep form when you're paddling, you are doing your back more good than harm.

It's important to warm up, not stretch before a surf, but stretch very carefully after a surf. I use a fat foam roller when I get home to roll down the upper spine. Bliss....

Disclaimer: I'm also not a surgeon, chiro, physio or any other professional health person. This is just my experience.





Well. I understand what your saying. For me. The shortboard is part of the answer.
The tail is down in the water.
Far far less effort to look out because you have lessen the angle required.

I didnt make this up. It was recommended to me.and not by a shaper

I work hard on my general fitness.
Paddle training 3 times a week.

Why shouldnt i paddle a shortboard if i keep my fitness and weight reasonable
The only issue was the neck.

Yes posture and form still play a big part for sure

Its all good.

Cheers




Ok .. my 2 cents plus GST ... I spend time on both short and longboards 6'4" to 9'6" and I'm 6'3" tall 96kg.
The neck thing I get. My neck and upper shoulders hurt more when paddling a longboard and I find myself head down / eyes down more often than not. On my short boards, position is differing and I do note tire / hurt as much in the neck, although my paddle fitness lets me down, and I tend to tire more quickly.
Wave count is not a noticeable difference , the position of takeoff in the line up is!!!.
Often it takes 2-4 missed waves for my ageing mind to wake up that I've changed boards and have to re-think the takeoff / lineup. (DOH!)
and yes
off water fitness / looking after yourself play a huge part.

cheers
g



Yes sir. I get that absolutely
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

16 Apr 2019 5:26pm
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.
Toobz
Toobz

183 posts

16 Apr 2019 4:01pm
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Ricardo1709 said..

Toobz said..


Ricardo1709 said..
Theres no exercises you can do if its discs pressing on a nerve unfortunately but like Mac said most of us older blokes have some injury that gives us grief surfing, just gotta grin and bear it and take drugs




Not true. I've helped many clients with cervical disc bulges/herniations. Quite often disc herniations can put pressure on a nerve but can also cause nerve pain simply by surrounding muscles guarding that disc bulge. Poor posture (poke neck) also makes things worse. A series of exercises done in the correct order can really help get that disc from putting pressure or "pinching" the nerve and help correct posture. The key sometimes is some form of traction first then a series of corrective exercises.
Disclaimer I'm not a doctor or Physio but as a PT/Gym owner I unfortunately see many people given a pretty grim diagnosis by lazy physicians only to have them living pain free with in a few weeks or months.
Best of luck.



Well fill me in on any exercises that may help as Ive had physio, cortisone injections, sports massage dude who claimed he could fix it with three visits (ha ha) and even bought an inflatable neck collar thingo, ill try anything before going under the knife.Any recommendations appreciated Toobz.


Unfortunately without it being in person, assessing you first and being able to demonstrate the exercises I certainly can't prescribe any, sorry.
Like every profession there's good and bad. They prescribe Cortisone shots these days like they used to give out lollypops to grommies. You need to find a good Physio or PT or strength coach who really knows what they're doing but that's not always easy.
I see you're in NSW? Are you anywhere near the Qld border?
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

16 Apr 2019 6:11pm
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Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.



You some sort surf cop or something
climber
climber

NSW

1125 posts

16 Apr 2019 7:09pm
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.




You some sort surf cop or something


Yea come on Lacey are you a shorty or a longy....... or perhaps are you a bi-boarder like meeeeeee
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

16 Apr 2019 7:11pm
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.




You some sort surf cop or something


Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

16 Apr 2019 7:37pm
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Macaha said..


laceys lane said..



Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.






You some sort surf cop or something




Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.



So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

17 Apr 2019 1:21pm
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laceys lane said..
I suppose i should ask who makes a good rockered longboard


I hear the 07 rocker is magic and has healing powers...
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

17 Apr 2019 3:50pm
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SP said..

laceys lane said..
I suppose i should ask who makes a good rockered longboard



I hear the 07 rocker is magic and has healing powers...


You better believe it
GreenTea
GreenTea

70 posts

17 Apr 2019 2:41pm
Not many topics are worth two shakes! I've learnt a lot from this. I have had the same problem over the years and always thought bigger. I'm going to give this ago. Thanks Lacey Lane
Al G
Al G

NSW

7704 posts

17 Apr 2019 4:48pm
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..



laceys lane said..




Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.







You some sort surf cop or something





Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.




So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have


He's got a few,I had to polish them for him at Woopi
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

17 Apr 2019 4:57pm
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Al G said..

laceys lane said..


Macaha said..




laceys lane said..





Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.








You some sort surf cop or something






Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.





So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have



He's got a few,I had to polish them for him at Woopi


Cheers Ai Lacey hasn't got a road trip in him,too busy tripping over himself.

Just sent V a text I could be there in a couple of weeks with V train
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

17 Apr 2019 6:07pm
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Macaha said..

Al G said..


laceys lane said..



Macaha said..





laceys lane said..






Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.









You some sort surf cop or something







Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.






So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have




He's got a few,I had to polish them for him at Woopi



Cheers Ai Lacey hasn't got a road trip in him,too busy tripping over himself.

Just sent V a text I could be there in a couple of weeks with V train


I forgive you mac.
We all know its not easy for you being you
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

17 Apr 2019 6:14pm
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..


Al G said..



laceys lane said..




Macaha said..






laceys lane said..







Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.










You some sort surf cop or something








Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.







So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have





He's got a few,I had to polish them for him at Woopi




Cheers Ai Lacey hasn't got a road trip in him,too busy tripping over himself.

Just sent V a text I could be there in a couple of weeks with V train



I forgive you mac.
We all know its not easy for you being you


Life struggles mate I struggle being me
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

17 Apr 2019 6:17pm
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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..


Macaha said..



Al G said..




laceys lane said..





Macaha said..







laceys lane said..








Macaha said..
Lacey please make up your mind your either a short or longboarder you were once both time to come clean.











You some sort surf cop or something









Sorry I lobbied for a longboard forum any talk of 30 odd litre shortboard simply dose NOT BELONG in here.








So. Your a forum cop too.
How many control freak badges do you have






He's got a few,I had to polish them for him at Woopi





Cheers Ai Lacey hasn't got a road trip in him,too busy tripping over himself.

Just sent V a text I could be there in a couple of weeks with V train




I forgive you mac.
We all know its not easy for you being you



Life struggles mate I struggle being me


Everyone struggles. Its part of life
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

17 Apr 2019 6:35pm
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GreenTea said..
Not many topics are worth two shakes! I've learnt a lot from this. I have had the same problem over the years and always thought bigger. I'm going to give this ago. Thanks Lacey Lane



Cool. Just one thing though.
When going back to lower volume and a bit more rocker is you have to put yourself into the steeper or later takeoff zones and adjust to standing up in the fall line. Good posture and paddling form into takeoff really helps.
Well. It has for me


Cheers
climber
climber

NSW

1125 posts

17 Apr 2019 6:57pm
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laceys lane said..

GreenTea said..
Not many topics are worth two shakes! I've learnt a lot from this. I have had the same problem over the years and always thought bigger. I'm going to give this ago. Thanks Lacey Lane



Cool. Just one thing though.
When going back to lower volume and a bit more rocker is you have to put yourself into the steeper or later takeoff zones and adjust to standing up in the fall line. Good posture and paddling form into takeoff really helps.
Cheers


Yep ..you sure do!!
I have a mantra to overcome some of the head stuff that often occurs with this.
I take the first set wave I can
"IF I make the drop, then I know I can do it ...... IF I don't .... then my day can only get better from there"
works for me

cheers and happy take offs
G
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

17 Apr 2019 7:15pm
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climber said..

laceys lane said..


GreenTea said..
Not many topics are worth two shakes! I've learnt a lot from this. I have had the same problem over the years and always thought bigger. I'm going to give this ago. Thanks Lacey Lane




Cool. Just one thing though.
When going back to lower volume and a bit more rocker is you have to put yourself into the steeper or later takeoff zones and adjust to standing up in the fall line. Good posture and paddling form into takeoff really helps.
Cheers



Yep ..you sure do!!
I have a mantra to overcome some of the head stuff that often occurs with this.
I take the first set wave I can
"IF I make the drop, then I know I can do it ...... IF I don't .... then my day can only get better from there"
works for me

cheers and happy take offs
G


Haha. A good attitude overcomes a lot of hurdles
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

17 Apr 2019 9:17pm
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laceys lane said..

climber said..


laceys lane said..



GreenTea said..
Not many topics are worth two shakes! I've learnt a lot from this. I have had the same problem over the years and always thought bigger. I'm going to give this ago. Thanks Lacey Lane





Cool. Just one thing though.
When going back to lower volume and a bit more rocker is you have to put yourself into the steeper or later takeoff zones and adjust to standing up in the fall line. Good posture and paddling form into takeoff really helps.
Cheers




Yep ..you sure do!!
I have a mantra to overcome some of the head stuff that often occurs with this.
I take the first set wave I can
"IF I make the drop, then I know I can do it ...... IF I don't .... then my day can only get better from there"
works for me

cheers and happy take offs
G



Haha. A good attitude overcomes a lot of hurdles


Climber beings this attitude to all road trips you'll be amazed what you'll learn
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

22 Apr 2019 10:36am



vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

22 Apr 2019 1:18pm
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.




Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish

QLD

1332 posts

22 Apr 2019 1:22pm
Far too much volume in that kickboard.
This mo betta!
https://www.thesurfboardwarehouse.com.au/bom-bora-hand-plane-carbon-innegra/
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

22 Apr 2019 2:14pm
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vanders1 said..
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.





Vanders. That name rings a bell.
Arent you that nuts and bolts sales rep
vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

22 Apr 2019 3:27pm
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laceys lane said..


vanders1 said..
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.






Vanders. That name rings a bell.
Arent you that nuts and bolts sales rep



Toilet paper actually.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

22 Apr 2019 4:00pm
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vanders1 said..

laceys lane said..



vanders1 said..
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.







Vanders. That name rings a bell.
Arent you that nuts and bolts sales rep




Toilet paper actually.


**** oh dear
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

22 Apr 2019 4:32pm
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laceys lane said..

vanders1 said..
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.





Vanders. That name rings a bell.
Arent you that nuts and bolts sales rep


I little rude imo. Vanders Legend,now do you remember him Lacey
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

22 Apr 2019 4:38pm
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Macaha said..



laceys lane said..




vanders1 said..
This is your solution Lacey, that'll keep your rear end low in the water.








Vanders. That name rings a bell.
Arent you that nuts and bolts sales rep





I little rude imo. Vanders Legend,now do you remember him Lacey




Geez i don't know..

Out of nowhere. Have a joke and get this dour reply!!!
Yew. Your right mac. Now i remember
vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

22 Apr 2019 4:46pm
It's good to be back, I see nothing has changed, was hoping for some attitudes to have been adjusted but alas...........
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

22 Apr 2019 5:00pm
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vanders1 said..
It's good to be back, I see nothing has changed, was hoping for some attitudes to have been adjusted but alas...........


Nope. Your out of luck there.
Still. Its good to have you back no matter what mac and asea say .

vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

22 Apr 2019 5:06pm
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laceys lane said..

vanders1 said..
It's good to be back, I see nothing has changed, was hoping for some attitudes to have been adjusted but alas...........



Nope. Your out of luck there.
Still. Its good to have you back no matter what mac and asea say .



Haters be motivators
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