McHenry said..
What about a Yahoo Kelvinator?
Yahoo does a few high volume mids

onefin said..
One of the new CI mids would be the go... I am looking forward to fondling one in onboard

Hydromann said..
So I got some waves this morning at secrets.

Nose dived on just about everyone of them.

Shallow rocker and broad nose are gonna take some getting used to.

One the couple of waves I did manage to pull into the board felt good. Not as responsive as they make out in their adds, but that could be a case of me not being Beau Young and the fin setup and placement.

Got so.e tinkering to do and some fine tuning. Still it got my wave count up dramatically which was my primary objective.

A few more surfs and hopefully I can tune into this board better.

laceys lane said..




I had a beau wombat. Too me a while to fin up. I used large sides with small quad rears

Hydromann said..




Cheers mate, that's why I went with the Carbon Jet. Everyone raved about the Wombat which the CJ was pulled from. Have only run the 2+1 in it which given the length made it fairly stiff. The couple of runs I did get across the face it had good speed but I never got to put it onto the rail properly to get a real feel. But that's Secret harbour closeouts for you, a very quick break that's over in seconds.

Will likely head down to Avalon on the weekend to get a bit more time on the face and will mix and match fin combo's then.

Noticed Webber Diamond runs big twins with a novel shaped rear biter that has a lot less surface than the 2+1 setup. Might look around for a small rear and give that a crack as well.

On the quad I've got some 5" and 4" that came with the board, what did your rears come in at?

Again Cheers.

laceys lane said..




A large front fin.
And almost stabilizers size side fins
Found it awesome in uneven chunky waves

laceys lane said..




A large front fin.
And almost stabilizers size side fins
Found it awesome in uneven chunky waves

Macaha said..




About time the fin guru came alive again

McHenry said..
I have a feeing CI are going to be selling A LOT of that midlength.

chrispthekiwi said..




I just enquired with my local ci dealer and they said I was looking $1500 nz for one of these.

Hydromann said..




Thinking I'm gonna get some of these webbersurfboards.com/fins/

Then use a box to FCS adaptor for the nubster style trailing fin.

But that wont fix another issue that i'm starting to realise, rocker. I bought this board for paddle speed, and yes it paddles well and is reasonably quick to lift and go.

Problem is that I am not riding full and mushy style waves like they show in the videos. I'm on a bank that pitches up a steep face very quickly, and as such I am eating the bank more than hooking into a bottom turn.

Might be a bit of weight distribution issue still but anytime I'm more than 60 deg to the face the nose dives. It's almost like slow motion, I can see what is going to happen even before it does and then she goes shovel nose on me.

I did a side view layout of the rocker for the Carbon Jet against the Modern Love child, Snub Nose Eco Tech, and even some of the shorter longboards, all seem to have quite shallow rockers.

I then overlaid the SubX and the Webber Diamond 6'10" and noticed that both of these have some extra lift in the nose due to a seemless rocker transition over the length of the board. Not a great deal more but somewhere between 15 to 20mm, which at the end of the day may not make a big difference?

What I also think is not helping is my ambition is outweighing my ability, my brain remembers what I could do many years ago, but my body and muscle memory is kaput. Yeah I still have the basic dynamics right but have lost that edge I once had.

Anyway perseverance is key, fitness will come back, and hopefully I can stop nose diving.

Also hoping that using the quad setup will allow me to swing the board around parallel to the wave face a bit quicker and easier during drop in. If I can get the rail engaged early enough then I'm all good, and to do this I need to either catch the wave early enough, or to be able to swing the nose around quick enough.

Ricooso said..
Just new to this room and loving the midlength discussion. First time poster also, so i apologise in advance for any misdoings.

Looking at getting a midlenght and after some thoughts please.

Im 54 and currently downsizing from 100kg, first goal 95 and stand 170cm. Been surfing since early teens (performance shortboards). Lost my mojo 10 years or so back and quit, but buying a flat water SUP eventually lead me down the path to SUP surfing for the last 5 years in pretty much the same conditions that I used to surf in, without the suckier reefs or crowded angry points for obvious reasons LOL.

Made the switch back to shortboards 6 months or so back, starting with a 6'6 CatchSurf quad foamie 55L, then picked up a 6'8 JS Raging Bull step up 45.7L and lastly a Machado Seaside Quad 6'1 46.5L. Have had some fun waves on them all but for my local beach and surrounds (Wanda, Garie the Gong down to Bawley) Im thinking that a midlength is going to round out my quiver.
I'm at home laying down drawn out cutties, low bottom turns and love to draw 8's all day if possible:) So looking for a mid that will get me there.

From what i have read here, I'm thinking around the 7'2-7'6 length, with some entry and exit V, (single to double concave?). Not too flat in the rocker for steeper hollower waves but not too much rocker for smaller beach days?
I have already invested in a couple of different keel quad fin sets, so thinking of maybe going with the 5 fin option, to play with quad or twin options. Most here seem to love the 2+1 setup, mmmm what to do?
Also keen on light to medium swallow tails, but don't mind a rounded pin either.

These are my thoughts on what might suit me best so far but open to suggestions please.

Can anyone recommend and surf shops, in the Illawarra region, that have a good selection of mid's?
Have been keeping an eye on here and Gumtree also. If anyone has seen or knows of anything similar to these available anywhere, please let me know also.

The two pics below are of boards that have REALLY caught my eye as lovely specimens of midlenghts.
I think that the top one is only a 3 fin setup though?

Ricooso said..




Firstly, thanks for all help and advice on choosing a midlenght to add to my quiver, in particular the DM from the previous owner of the yellow 5 fin fish that I posted. Ledgend!!!!!

So the pic of the yellow board that I posted, ended up being a 8'0 Stepdeck Fish shaped by Wizstix Surfboards in Long Jetty NSW.
After reading the awesome wrap from the previous owner and learning of their history of shaping these style of boards, I went up on Friday and put in a custom order, that will be hand shaped by Gary "Wizard" Loveridge.

After talking with Gary about volume and length options and he checked out the shortboards that I'm riding most at the moment (6'1 Machado Seaside, Catchsurf Skipper 6'6, both quads), we landed on a 7'0, 21 1/2", 2 7/8-3" Stepdeck Fish. I'm going with a Royal Navy resin tint with double cut laps, 6/4 on the deck and 6 on then base, FCSII 5 fin setup and a polished gloss coat. Getting the double cut laps and gloss coat bumped up the price a fair bit but I'm excited about how the finish of the board is going to look:) He had a red resin tinted 7'? single fin with a gloss coat ready for some guy down the South Coast and it looked amazing! He recommended the FCS2 AM fins. Should be ready in about 5 weeks and i'll post a pic up here when i get it.

www.surffcs.com.au/collections/quads/products/fcs-ii-al-merrick-pc-aircore-tri-quad-fins?variant=18282462150713

seadog57 said..
Hi all, need some advice, I'm 62 yrs old weighing in at 92 kgs. I am looking around for a new board. I spent about 4 months in Bali 18 months ago riding my old 7'8 powerglide which was still a pleasure to ride but even though I paddled past everyone on the way back out to the lineup when paddling for a wave the back end would get bogged down and I'd lose momentum which made it tough competing against longboards. On the rare occasions I was in uncrowded surf and could pick my spot it wasn't a problem but usually longboards were taking off 10-15 meters outside me. I was also 7 or 8 kgs lighter at the time which means I need more volume and length. Grant Miller isn't shaping at the moment, he has more pressing issues otherwise I would just get a beefed up 8ft powerglide and maybe do away with the full nose for easier duck diving.
So too eventually get to the point I've narrowed my search down to -

8ft McCoy nugget, problem being they are thin on the ground in the west and I don't really wanna pay $1500+ for a custom and there's probably not enough time before my trip to Lombok anyway. (but I could probably find one if need be)

8ft Trigger Bros Stubby, I really haven't found much discussion about these, I'm sure it would catch waves but I'm afraid it's 75 ltrs would be to boaty.
I bought a 7s 8ft step deck once, it paddled ok but you had to steer it like a truck.

I've just spotted a 8ft Christensen Flat Tracker in town, 8 x 211/2 x 3 1/8, for $1295

So what I need to know is will the Flat tracker paddle as well and have the same stability as the Nugget?
I'm an old back foot surfer who grew up surfing single fins so I'm thinking they would both suit my preferred style.
Does anyone have any info or opinion about the Trigger Bros Hot Dog Stubby?

Ricooso said..




Firstly, thanks for all help and advice on choosing a midlenght to add to my quiver, in particular the DM from the previous owner of the yellow 5 fin fish that I posted. Ledgend!!!!!

So the pic of the yellow board that I posted, ended up being a 8'0 Stepdeck Fish shaped by Wizstix Surfboards in Long Jetty NSW.
After reading the awesome wrap from the previous owner and learning of their history of shaping these style of boards, I went up on Friday and put in a custom order, that will be hand shaped by Gary "Wizard" Loveridge.

After talking with Gary about volume and length options and he checked out the shortboards that I'm riding most at the moment (6'1 Machado Seaside, Catchsurf Skipper 6'6, both quads), we landed on a 7'0, 21 1/2", 2 7/8-3" Stepdeck Fish. I'm going with a Royal Navy resin tint with double cut laps, 6/4 on the deck and 6 on then base, FCSII 5 fin setup and a polished gloss coat. Getting the double cut laps and gloss coat bumped up the price a fair bit but I'm excited about how the finish of the board is going to look:) He had a red resin tinted 7'? single fin with a gloss coat ready for some guy down the South Coast and it looked amazing! He recommended the FCS2 AM fins. Should be ready in about 5 weeks and i'll post a pic up here when i get it.

www.surffcs.com.au/collections/quads/products/fcs-ii-al-merrick-pc-aircore-tri-quad-fins?variant=18282462150713

seadog57 said..
Hi all, need some advice, I'm 62 yrs old weighing in at 92 kgs. I am looking around for a new board. I spent about 4 months in Bali 18 months ago riding my old 7'8 powerglide which was still a pleasure to ride but even though I paddled past everyone on the way back out to the lineup when paddling for a wave the back end would get bogged down and I'd lose momentum which made it tough competing against longboards. On the rare occasions I was in uncrowded surf and could pick my spot it wasn't a problem but usually longboards were taking off 10-15 meters outside me. I was also 7 or 8 kgs lighter at the time which means I need more volume and length. Grant Miller isn't shaping at the moment, he has more pressing issues otherwise I would just get a beefed up 8ft powerglide and maybe do away with the full nose for easier duck diving.
So too eventually get to the point I've narrowed my search down to -

8ft McCoy nugget, problem being they are thin on the ground in the west and I don't really wanna pay $1500+ for a custom and there's probably not enough time before my trip to Lombok anyway. (but I could probably find one if need be)

8ft Trigger Bros Stubby, I really haven't found much discussion about these, I'm sure it would catch waves but I'm afraid it's 75 ltrs would be to boaty.
I bought a 7s 8ft step deck once, it paddled ok but you had to steer it like a truck.

I've just spotted a 8ft Christensen Flat Tracker in town, 8 x 211/2 x 3 1/8, for $1295

So what I need to know is will the Flat tracker paddle as well and have the same stability as the Nugget?
I'm an old back foot surfer who grew up surfing single fins so I'm thinking they would both suit my preferred style.
Does anyone have any info or opinion about the Trigger Bros Hot Dog Stubby?

seadog57 said..
Hi all, need some advice, I'm 62 yrs old weighing in at 92 kgs. I am looking around for a new board. I spent about 4 months in Bali 18 months ago riding my old 7'8 powerglide which was still a pleasure to ride but even though I paddled past everyone on the way back out to the lineup when paddling for a wave the back end would get bogged down and I'd lose momentum which made it tough competing against longboards. On the rare occasions I was in uncrowded surf and could pick my spot it wasn't a problem but usually longboards were taking off 10-15 meters outside me. I was also 7 or 8 kgs lighter at the time which means I need more volume and length. Grant Miller isn't shaping at the moment, he has more pressing issues otherwise I would just get a beefed up 8ft powerglide and maybe do away with the full nose for easier duck diving.
So too eventually get to the point I've narrowed my search down to -

8ft McCoy nugget, problem being they are thin on the ground in the west and I don't really wanna pay $1500+ for a custom and there's probably not enough time before my trip to Lombok anyway. (but I could probably find one if need be)

8ft Trigger Bros Stubby, I really haven't found much discussion about these, I'm sure it would catch waves but I'm afraid it's 75 ltrs would be to boaty.
I bought a 7s 8ft step deck once, it paddled ok but you had to steer it like a truck.

I've just spotted a 8ft Christensen Flat Tracker in town, 8 x 211/2 x 3 1/8, for $1295

So what I need to know is will the Flat tracker paddle as well and have the same stability as the Nugget?
I'm an old back foot surfer who grew up surfing single fins so I'm thinking they would both suit my preferred style.
Does anyone have any info or opinion about the Trigger Bros Hot Dog Stubby?

McHenry said..




No shortage of great high volume 8'ers out there. Locally you could talk to Yahoo as I'm sure they could do something awesome for you. You could get a nugget but one made overseas not the custom made ones, Mick Mackie does an awesome high volume Midlength, Tak Scorpion, McT Sumo, etc etc

seadog57 said..
Thanks for the replies, I paid a visit to ClearWater shop a week or so ago and sent a message to SDR. He replied yesterday just after I made that post
Catching up with him this week, can't wait.
I've learnt quite a lot trawling through the mid length topics here.
Cheers.

dools111 said..
SDR 's modern hulls are a great all purpose mid - i've got the 7 2 in the pics a great all rounder single - although they are called "evo hull" model, they are not really hulls at all, very forgiving, great paddling. bit bigger and i'd recommend some side bites for versatility should be just what you're after.... this one paddles great, catches anything and turns super smooth

laceys lane said..





I had a beau wombat. Took me a while to fin up. I used large sides with small quad rears