I really like the Alkali Widowmaker set too, the quality of the Alkali fins is unreal, really well crafted... but I think its probably a bit too much fin for the 7'2" or 7'7" Pintail, better suited to a rounder tail? (see pic below, beautiful fins)

The sides I have coming are more like the lower profile Bonzer sides, and so if I like them I think I'll likely go for one of these in a 6"...

"This fin was designed by the Campbell Brothers with the intention and specific purpose of being paired with their Bonzer Surfboards. This center fin is meant to complement the unique bottom contours and fin setups of their 3 and 5 fin designs.The Bonzer fin works synergistically with the additional runners to efficiently and effectively organize water flow across the bottom of the surfboard, resulting in a highly optimal transfer of energy. If you have a Bonzer board, this fin is the official prescription prescribed by the Brothers Campbell to fix it up for maximum performance."

So here the 3 I've got that could do the job. Since owning the board I've had the the Ellis Ericsson 7.5 in it. It felt good from the start...so just left it in the middle of the box. Got some good waves on the south coast and it performed nicely. Fast with plenty of drive and only got a lil loose bouncing off the foam after a cutback...but getting down low and steadying the board got it going again.
holding both fins side by side the BM is clearly more foiled, raked and tip flexy...I am certain it'll be epic on big carver right hand walls!
The FCS was my first "after market" fin I ever purchased and turned a bland 9'1, which I rode as a single fin at the time into a rocket ship in 2+1 setup. I've got it earmarked for my Pending DT1 10fter but may give it a run in the C Bucket!
I inclueded a pic as it looks a similar template to the Nat ?

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I really like the Alkali Widowmaker set too, the quality of the Alkali fins is unreal, really well crafted... but I think its probably a bit too much fin for the 7'2" or 7'7" Pintail, better suited to a rounder tail? (see pic below, beautiful fins)

The sides I have coming are more like the lower profile Bonzer sides, and so if I like them I think I'll likely go for one of these in a 6"...

"This fin was designed by the Campbell Brothers with the intention and specific purpose of being paired with their Bonzer Surfboards. This center fin is meant to complement the unique bottom contours and fin setups of their 3 and 5 fin designs.The Bonzer fin works synergistically with the additional runners to efficiently and effectively organize water flow across the bottom of the surfboard, resulting in a highly optimal transfer of energy. If you have a Bonzer board, this fin is the official prescription prescribed by the Brothers Campbell to fix it up for maximum performance."

I love the TA Bonzer fin. I run the 6" in my 6'3 NPJ with big sides as a Widowmaker set up. With the deep bonzeresque channels/concave it seemed like an obvious choice. It works great.

Andy I often described myself as a lazy surfer but then I realised I can catch 15 plus waves an hour trimming all the way to the beach. Catching a wave riding 80metres or so paddling back out and repeating 3-5mins later isn't lazy!

I don't really pump, for me it's ugly to watch. Smooth carving surfing is what I enjoy watching and try to replicate. Longer boards give the glide/smoothness particularly single fins and this opens up different angles to project off..... No need for pumping!

Not lazy surfing just surfing with more style

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onefin said..
Andy I often described myself as a lazy surfer but then I realised I can catch 15 plus waves an hour trimming all the way to the beach. Catching a wave riding 80metres or so paddling back out and repeating 3-5mins later isn't lazy!

I don't really pump, for me it's ugly to watch. Smooth carving surfing is what I enjoy watching and try to replicate. Longer boards give the glide/smoothness particularly single fins and this opens up different angles to project off..... No need for pumping!

Not lazy surfing just surfing with more style

Totally... I'm definitely a wave pig but very laid back on the wave...

Where we differ is I that I have no style

Joel on a super smooth 7'6", pretty much the magic length for an all rounder mid...

Click link for vid:
www.instagram.com/p/Bx5_paNhlxT/?igshid=1gct089qmmwja

Nice one!

Same board as the last JT video you linked do you reckon? Or is the previous one a little smaller... (www.instagram.com/p/BxeuWFyHjR2/?igshid=phy92a9w16h2)

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saltyheaven said..
Nice one!

Same board as the last JT video you linked do you reckon? Or is the previous one a little smaller... (www.instagram.com/p/BxeuWFyHjR2/?igshid=phy92a9w16h2)

Could be, looks very similar... Dreamy waves hey

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AndyrooMac said..
Joel on a super smooth 7'6", pretty much the magic length for an all rounder mid...

Click link for vid:
www.instagram.com/p/Bx5_paNhlxT/?igshid=1gct089qmmwja

Smooth as butter.

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saltyheaven said..

Iconic and Classic Wayne Lynch... By Witzig I'm pretty sure

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AndyrooMac said..

saltyheaven said..

Iconic and Classic Wayne Lynch... By Witzig I'm pretty sure

Spot on. From 'Evolution.'

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SP said..

He's such an awesome surfer. All the more so because he's chosen to surf the way he does. There's video's about of a young Torren surfing in a more typical way, shortboard style. Airs, aggro attack, wide stance, all the usual - super high level surfing and very impressive but not exactly an individual approach. Apparently he got jaded at some stage, took the better part of a year off from surfing and when he returned came at it with a new approach. (Can't remember where I read that, probably an interview... )

Picked up my new shooter yesterday - 3rd custom from the same shaper - only way to go! Has the Rpela shark deterrent built in as well.

8'2 x 22 x 2 2/5

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Souwester said..
Picked up my new shooter yesterday - 3rd custom from the same shaper - only way to go! Has the Rpela shark deterrent built in as well.

8'2 x 22 x 2 2/5

That looks unreal dude, and if it rides anything like the 8'er that I surfed you'll be stoked...

My 8'2" is finally on its way today, i think about a week away.

8'2 Thick Lizzy ??

What are the other dims??

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McHenry said..
8'2 Thick Lizzy ??

What are the other dims??

Correct... No idea what other dims. will be 3"ish by 21"ish

I just let him shape what he thinks will work for the waves I want to surf...

Can't wait though, wish I had it for Friday point swell session but i'm confident she's a keeper and we'll have many years and many point waves together

Old clip of Devon Howard. Worth watching again. www.instagram.com/p/ByAjBTDHOMD/?igshid=196hf3gtkv3bq

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SP said..
Old clip of Devon Howard. Worth watching again. www.instagram.com/p/ByAjBTDHOMD/?igshid=196hf3gtkv3bq

Don't show me that, i'll wanna buy a Tak again thinking I can surf like Devon... But then have to realise for that I also need talent and beautiful long walls to carve... which I don't have and we rarely get...

Anyway... here's the full vid that clip is taken from, its a good watch.

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Souwester said..
Picked up my new shooter yesterday - 3rd custom from the same shaper - only way to go! Has the Rpela shark deterrent built in as well.

8'2 x 22 x 2 2/5

Looks awesome! I love the grunge vibe.

Is it really 2 2/5" thick? Odd way of expressing the fraction makes me think it might be a little typo, also that would be pretty thin for this board.

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SP said..
Old clip of Devon Howard. Worth watching again. www.instagram.com/p/ByAjBTDHOMD/?igshid=196hf3gtkv3bq

Being a bit of a Devil's Advocate here for sure...

I'm going to put it out there that, a) This is undeniably great surfing.
But also, b) He's fairly well planted on the tail and the front foot or more of the board is just along for the ride.
And lastly c) I'd like to see more foot movement, more use of the front of the board, a bit more variety.

Nothing away from Devon for certain. He's surfs fantastically and seems in everything I've read and heard him speak to be a genuinely great guy.

You guys have those nice points. Perfect for a nice Tak egg

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SP said..
Old clip of Devon Howard. Worth watching again. www.instagram.com/p/ByAjBTDHOMD/?igshid=196hf3gtkv3bq

Being a bit of a Devil's Advocate here for sure...

I'm going to put it out there that, a) This is undeniably great surfing.
But also, b) He's fairly well planted on the tail and the front foot or more of the board is just along for the ride.
And lastly c) I'd like to see more foot movement, more use of the front of the board, a bit more variety.

Nothing away from Devon for certain. He's surfs fantastically and seems in everything I've read and heard him speak to be a genuinely great guy.

I guess Devon doesn't really fit your mold of ideal surf style though... buuut... Devon is primarily a Longboarder, and a really REALLY good one, an incredible noserider with really smooth footwork, watch One California Day, great film...

So I'm guessing if he "needs" to go up the board he does, if he doesn't and can turn more efficiently from the tail he doesn't...

The front foot of the board is there for the paddling, wave catching and glide... Which you need to get in early on those crowded waves full of rippers... he actually talks about this in an interview, I think with Chas where he's spruking the benefits of the Egg.

Beautiful surfer on any craft I've seen him

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McHenry said..
You guys have those nice points. Perfect for a nice Tak egg

That break about 10 times a year... so not really much of a help... And I already have Lizzy soooooooo

FYI Salty... I'm a massive fan of forward trim myself... Love the sensation you get on that part of the board amd I LOVE watching that relaxed style of surfing...

This is still about my fave 2mins of surfing footage, and the footage that lead me to surfing mids and getting a few boards from Ryan... and these are the about best decisions i've made in surfing

Agreed to your last two posts Andy.

It's a 100% subjective stylistic opinion that I expressed. Not intended as criticism in the slightest. Mostly I'm being reactionary to something that is arguably too smooth, too polished - looking for the quirky individual kink in the style. As well as hoping in my own small way to foster broader acceptance in what is still a very conservative arena.

Mann... I really need a Vbowls... 7'6" I think... every-time I watch that clip That clip also transformed Ryans business, created incredible demand for those boards...

I actually don't think we need acceptance...

Surfing is counter culture for a reason...

I would say it's been a long time since surfing was anything close to counter culture. What I meant was broader acceptance from the generally conservative surfing culture for approaches and styles that challenge the norm.