SP said..




What a bunch of dumb ****ing questions I feel dumber for reading that.

SP said..




Yeah you did, just didn't get time to surf it. And would feel ****ty if I damaged it.

saltyheaven said..
Back on Hulls for a minute.... I reckon the factors that make a Hull the board that it is, the things that dictate it's strengths and weaknesses, and thus the things that seem to polarise people on the subject, have a whole lot more to do with pretty much everything about the board other than the convex 'hull' aspect.

Couple of images attached, the second is a description specifically of a Liddle Hull, the first is a collage of one of my boards.
This is the board that I grab when there's some juice, I'll ride it happily in anything I game for. Definitely not a 'hull' by my reckoning, but probably carrying as much convex curve through the front half as in the description below. It's got a slight bit more tail rocker than a typical hull, my rails are certainly not full there's a lot of deck roll. The back half is different for sure, the bit more rocker already mentioned, it also transitions through a triplane into a pretty typical double concave with v, then back to flat behind the fin. My fin is in a more normal spot and I've got little tiny bonzer style side bites that go in for a bit more hold and certainty when it's steep or hollow.

I've had a couple of attempts at shaping a full hull and to be honest I missed the mark each time, I've never held one in my hands so that kind of stacks the cards against me.

I love riding from the front half of the board, narrow stance. I love watching people do it, I love the feeling it gives me on the wave, I love burying the rail with all I've got and drawing the turn out long. I'm not suggesting I'm necessarily spectacular at it, but I'm pretty sure I hold my own. I certainly get plenty of comments about my boards after people see me surfing.
The whole forward narrow stance thing is something I actively work on. The Liddle Hull on the way is just a step in that journey, a learning tool if you like. It may not end up being something that I ride everyday, or even something that I hang on to. In my mind it's job is to teach me more about using the forward part of the rail, about having less and less dependence on the fin.

saltyheaven said..
Back on Hulls for a minute.... I reckon the factors that make a Hull the board that it is, the things that dictate it's strengths and weaknesses, and thus the things that seem to polarise people on the subject, have a whole lot more to do with pretty much everything about the board other than the convex 'hull' aspect.

Couple of images attached, the second is a description specifically of a Liddle Hull, the first is a collage of one of my boards.
This is the board that I grab when there's some juice, I'll ride it happily in anything I game for. Definitely not a 'hull' by my reckoning, but probably carrying as much convex curve through the front half as in the description below. It's got a slight bit more tail rocker than a typical hull, my rails are certainly not full there's a lot of deck roll. The back half is different for sure, the bit more rocker already mentioned, it also transitions through a triplane into a pretty typical double concave with v, then back to flat behind the fin. My fin is in a more normal spot and I've got little tiny bonzer style side bites that go in for a bit more hold and certainty when it's steep or hollow.

I've had a couple of attempts at shaping a full hull and to be honest I missed the mark each time, I've never held one in my hands so that kind of stacks the cards against me.

I love riding from the front half of the board, narrow stance. I love watching people do it, I love the feeling it gives me on the wave, I love burying the rail with all I've got and drawing the turn out long. I'm not suggesting I'm necessarily spectacular at it, but I'm pretty sure I hold my own. I certainly get plenty of comments about my boards after people see me surfing.
The whole forward narrow stance thing is something I actively work on. The Liddle Hull on the way is just a step in that journey, a learning tool if you like. It may not end up being something that I ride everyday, or even something that I hang on to. In my mind it's job is to teach me more about using the forward part of the rail, about having less and less dependence on the fin.

Hi Salty, are you quoting someone else in the second part of your post underneath the pics?
Confusing with the 2 kinds of typeface used. If its a quote from whom?

AndyrooMac said..
This one has some real nice surfing and gives a better insight...

AndyrooMac said..
This one has some real nice surfing and gives a better insight...

Cuttlefish said..
Tryed to stop at 4. Rotated a few in and out as I got my sea legs back and adjusted accordingly.
Greedy Beaver 6'8"
DVS rocket fish 6'9"
Vquad 7'6"
Beachbeat 7'8".
DMS 6'8" quad fish is for sale and a Tomo vanguard 6'2" for when I'm feeling like a grommet again.
Here is the vquad 7'6" and the 7'8". Both with double concave bottoms but the 7'8" has a v running down it's length.
Put a stright edge on the stringer of the vquad and the straight edge will touch both rails as well. On the 7'8" the straight edge on the stringer has to be tilted to touch either rail.

Cuttlefish said..
So it was small but glassy this morning so figured I'd muck around and make it fun.
Have a set of fcs glass flex m7 fins I'd made into a set of mini keels. Popped them into my trusty Vquad 7'6". Was surprised how much hold on the face of the wave these little fins gave me. At the same time felt faster paddling and riding the wave.
The bottom of the board is a tri plane hull (double concave with spine in between).
Only spun the tail out once pushing too hard on my last wave. Otherwise made my session into a load of fun. Worth trying if things are getting stale or you want to know how your rails really feel.
Reckon I could put some quads rears into the board and ride it in some 3' waves on a point no problems at all.

saltyheaven said..
vimeo.com/ondemand/thankyoumother/299545843

Been waiting for this one. Looks like it's been available on Vimeo on Demand for a while but I didn't realise.

Edit: the video embed didn't work first time, just google 'vimeo on demand thank you mother' if it isn't showing.

If you want to play you have to pay.

saltyheaven said..




Yep. I'm happy to pay for this. Pretty sure a few others will be too, just letting them know in case they missed it. Been plenty of teasers and trailers for it...

Cuttlefish said..
So who's going to be the first kid on the block with a Free flight midlength edge board?